Remove ads from site

Stormchaser
29 September 2013 09:40:52

More split energy situations for the models to figure out.


At the moment the consensus seems to be for most of the energy to go NE next week, only for it to start heading SE again by 9-10 days from now.


That correlates with the blocking to our NE being flattened for a time, only to rise again in 9-10+ days time.




Footnote: I'm now in Reading on Whiteknights Campus! This is my base of operations for much of the coming year as I study a Masters in Meteorology


If you have any problems or queries relating to TWO you can Email [email protected]

https://twitter.com/peacockreports 
2023's Homeland Extremes:
T-Max: 30.2°C 9th Sep (...!) | T-Min: -7.1°C 22nd & 23rd Jan | Wettest Day: 25.9mm 2nd Nov | Ice Days: 1 (2nd Dec -1.3°C in freezing fog)
Keep Calm and Forecast On
Hungry Tiger
29 September 2013 10:20:14


More split energy situations for the models to figure out.


At the moment the consensus seems to be for most of the energy to go NE next week, only for it to start heading SE again by 9-10 days from now.


That correlates with the blocking to our NE being flattened for a time, only to rise again in 9-10+ days time.




Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


I wonder how things will pan out from here.


Will we see another nice warm/mild spell.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Charmhills
29 September 2013 10:23:49



More split energy situations for the models to figure out.


At the moment the consensus seems to be for most of the energy to go NE next week, only for it to start heading SE again by 9-10 days from now.


That correlates with the blocking to our NE being flattened for a time, only to rise again in 9-10+ days time.




Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


I wonder how things will pan out from here.


Will we see another nice warm/mild spell.


 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Gavin, we're already in a nice warm/mild spell, where have you been!


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
glenogle
29 September 2013 11:13:14


Footnote: I'm now in Reading on Whiteknights Campus! This is my base of operations for much of the coming year 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


 


O/T but that sounds a bit KKK, are you off to Gettysburg soon for a seminar? 


 


Its a shame that there are so few posts in here just now, but i suppose it is a sign of how settled the weather is.  Hopefully the colder stuff arrives over the coming month.  My main wonder is when we are going to get a decent rainfall.  The river has been constantly low for the whole year.  There are normally a few decent spates through the year.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx  The 300hr chart on the 6z is the kind of thing i am on the look out for, more towards the end of Oct. (is there a way to post specific charts, other than the link to the page?)


UserPostedImage LLTNP 105m asl 
Stormchaser
29 September 2013 14:22:33



Footnote: I'm now in Reading on Whiteknights Campus! This is my base of operations for much of the coming year 


Originally Posted by: glenogle 


 O/T but that sounds a bit KKK, are you off to Gettysburg soon for a seminar? 


 


Its a shame that there are so few posts in here just now, but i suppose it is a sign of how settled the weather is.  Hopefully the colder stuff arrives over the coming month.  My main wonder is when we are going to get a decent rainfall.  The river has been constantly low for the whole year.  There are normally a few decent spates through the year.


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx  The 300hr chart on the 6z is the kind of thing i am on the look out for, more towards the end of Oct. (is there a way to post specific charts, other than the link to the page?)


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 



...and yeah, it's rather benign at the moment, but it might pick up a bit over the next few days as some more showers start turning up along with some reasonable convective opportunities across England and Wales.


Longer term, the GFS 06z op is an eye-opener but lacks support from GEFS.




To link a specific chart, right click and select 'copy image location' or 'copy source' or something similar - it depends on the browser. Every chart from every computer model has it's own location on the internet... mind-boggling when you sit down and think about it!


If you have any problems or queries relating to TWO you can Email [email protected]

https://twitter.com/peacockreports 
2023's Homeland Extremes:
T-Max: 30.2°C 9th Sep (...!) | T-Min: -7.1°C 22nd & 23rd Jan | Wettest Day: 25.9mm 2nd Nov | Ice Days: 1 (2nd Dec -1.3°C in freezing fog)
Keep Calm and Forecast On
Polar Low
29 September 2013 17:53:28

[quote=Stormchaser;535804


Best of luck with the masters James


 


Footnote: I'm now in Reading on Whiteknights Campus! This is my base of operations for much of the coming year as I study a Masters in Meteorology


Polar Low
29 September 2013 18:03:24

warm looking ecm 0z mean


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem2161.html


 


12z gfs mean better with time


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_cartes.php?code=21&ech=156&mode=0&carte=1


 

Polar Low
29 September 2013 18:10:33

Becoming very wet western parts


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/accumulation-precipitations/120h.htm


 


Looks much dryer further east


http://wxmaps.org/pix/prec4.html


 


 


 


 


 


 

Polar Low
29 September 2013 18:24:29

Nice gm at that time might finish my outside painting yet.


maybe not a beer in the garden maybe.


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=180&mode=0&carte=0

Polar Low
29 September 2013 18:41:18

opp 12z ecm wants to follow 0z mean


enough amplifcation is obtained


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=168&mode=1&map=1&archive=0


 

Polar Low
29 September 2013 18:45:51

navgm says no but looks isolated.


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgeme_cartes.php?&ech=156&mode=0&carte=0


japs also says yes


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/jma.php?ech=168&mode=1

Hungry Tiger
29 September 2013 18:57:58




More split energy situations for the models to figure out.


At the moment the consensus seems to be for most of the energy to go NE next week, only for it to start heading SE again by 9-10 days from now.


That correlates with the blocking to our NE being flattened for a time, only to rise again in 9-10+ days time.




Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


I wonder how things will pan out from here.


Will we see another nice warm/mild spell.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


Gavin, we're already in a nice warm/mild spell, where have you been!


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


I'm looking ahead too far I suppose - that's all.


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


GIBBY
29 September 2013 20:16:09

Good evening. Here is the report on the 12 noon outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Sunday September 29th 2013.


All models show an unsettled week to come as Low pressure moves slowly North over the Eastern Atlantic to the West of Britain. Warm winds from the SE will veer more towards the SW by the end of the week as fronts cross steadily East and North through the week. There will be rain at times all week in the SW and this will extend to the drier Northern and Eastern regions too by the middle or end of the week. Thursday looks a particularly nasty day for some SE areas as a secondary Low moves NNE across these areas with some prolonged, heavy and thundery rain likely for a time. By Friday clearer, fresher and Westerly winds will move across all areas late in the week with a sunshine and showers mix, heaviest in the West.


GFS then shows next weekend as a drier phase across England and Wales as a ridge of High pressure crosses close to SE Britain. It's not too long after a few days though before this collapses away South and fronts feed there way South over the UK with a deep Low forming in situ near the British Isles with strong winds and progressively colder conditions before the end of the run with showers or longer spells of rain then with snow on the Northern mountains.


UKMO tonight at the close of it's run shows High pressure over Iberia and France with a SW flow blowing over the UK. the north and West would be mild and cloudy and breezy with occasional rain and drizzle while the South and East sees a lot of cloud too but largely fine weather with temperatures on the warm side of average especially in the SE where some brighter spells are likely.


GEM shows a fully fledged anticyclone developing over the UK next weekend with fine and dry conditions with reasonably warm daytime conditions but chilly nights with fog problems likely. Towards the end of the run High pressure weakens and slides away East with a return to cloudier conditions with occasional rain to SW Britain, heavy and thundery in places.


NAVGEM tries to build High pressure into the UK next weekend without too much success with the SW winds keen to survive with further outbreaks of rain in the North and West at times and this extending to areas further South later for a time before pressure builds in from the West late in the run.


ECM shows a warm and drier interlude for the South and East next weekend as a ridge moves in from the SW. However, Low pressure moves back in from the West late in the run with rain or showers for all again.


The GFS Ensembles continue to show above average uppers for the next two weeks though only marginally so rather than the well above average uppers we have seen of late. The trend is also shown that supports a drier spell next weekend and into the following week in the South before things turn more unsettled again at the end of the run.


The Jet Stream can only be accurately predicted up to a week ahead of the present at the moment as the extended outlook period changes with every run. In the meantime the flow continues to move East to the South of the UK for a few days which then diverts further North in response to the Low pressure moving North through this week and High pressure building to the South and SE next weekend.


In Summary the weather remains on a similar course to this morning with an unsettled week to come before a brief respite for southern and eastern areas before a return to more unsettled conditions reappear later in the second week. Having said all that there will be a lot of respectable if not perfect weather considering we are into October on Tuesday with some dry and fine conditions mixed in with occasional rainfall which in itself will not be noteworthy add the absence of any severe gales, frosts or fog then I don't think we need to complain too much on tonight's outputs.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



Look up my New Facebook Weather Page  for all the latest up to the minute weather stories as they happen
cowman
29 September 2013 20:24:39
Thanks martin.
GIBBY
30 September 2013 07:41:36

Good morning everyone. Here is todays view of the midnight outputs of GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Monday September 30th 2013.


All models maintain the view of changeable conditions through the working days of this week as Low pressure moves North close to Western Britain swinging troughs steadily NE across the UK with rain or showers for all by midweek. Winds will slowly veer towards the SW or West late in the week with brighter and less showery weather reaching many areas by Friday as well as turning things somewhat cooler.


GFS shows pressure rising across the South next weekend with fine, bright and reasonably mild weather returning in a light SW breeze. Further North and winds will be stronger from the SW with fronts carried NE delivering rain at times with temperatures normal or above. Through the following week some fine weather may be had for all as a cooler High pressure area crosses the UK before relaxing slowly slowly SE later in the run. A few cooler days are likely for moat at this point before a more defined change to unsettled conditions for all arrives at the end of the run with a chilly and strong Westerly breeze with rain and strong winds and colder conditions in the North.


UKMO closes it's run with next Sunday showing High pressure close to Brittany with light winds over the UK and fine weather again for most away from the far NW where thicker cloud and more of a mild SW wind carries occasional rain in off the Atlantic.


GEM shows High pressure too forming just to the South of Britain in 5 or 6 days with a fine weekend in the South if rather cloudy. Further North will see thicker cloud and some rain at times in a stronger Westerly breeze. This more changeable scenario is shown to spread South for a time next week but is quickly replaced by higher pressure again in the South by midweek.


NAVGEM brings High pressure across all areas next weekend with a spell of quiet and settled weather for all with temperatures close to average or above but with quiet and clear skies at night mist and fog problems would likely develop.


ECM shows a dry and bright period for Southern Britain next weekend when it stays reasonably mild. In the new week temperatures fall back in the wake of a cold front crossing SE and slowly dragging more changeable weather South and East across Britain with temperatures falling back somewhat.


The GFS Ensembles shows some rain for most this week before a drier period develops from the weekend in the South with weak signals for a return to rain at times for all, the South included later next week. Temperatures remain on the warm side of average for much of the time although this may become marginal at times later next week.


The Jet Stream currently blowing from the West across Southern Biscay currently weakens and breaks up later this week before a new surge pushes NE across the Atlantic and NW Britain from next weekend.


In Summary today the weather is set to be changeable this week with some rain or showers for most through the week though some areas may see less than at first thought. Later in the week cooler and fresher air will arrive from the West with a few showers, mostly in the NW. The weekend then looks quite good particularly if you live in the South with some fine and bright weather when temperatures again reach above average values. Then it looks like the trend is for more changeable weather already over the NW to sink further South and East next week with some rain likely for all in rather cooler temperatures as the winds look like eventually settling from a source further North in the North Atlantic. No real cold and frosty and foggy weather is shown by any output as yet though so the sustained period of relatively quiet and mild Autumn weather continues.


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



Look up my New Facebook Weather Page  for all the latest up to the minute weather stories as they happen
ARTzeman
30 September 2013 07:46:18

Thank you Martin..


Light pullover is ready for cooler nights and some odd rain.


 






Some people walk in the rain.
Others just get wet.
I Just Blow my horn or trumpet
nsrobins
30 September 2013 08:04:36

Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
turbotubbs
30 September 2013 08:07:14

I think the lack of posts on here is a stark reflection that the weather is just a bit dull right now...


 


 

Gavin P
30 September 2013 08:08:57


Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


It's amazing the amount of people I'm getting emailing me asking when autumn is going to set in!


People do have their limits and then they like a change - Same thing happened in March/April with the cold.


I keep telling folks that the autumn gales and rain will come and to make the most of the quet conditons while they can.


Rural West Northants 120m asl
Short, medium and long range weather forecast videos @ https://www.youtube.com/user/GavsWeatherVids
Stormchaser
30 September 2013 09:46:23

There looks to be an Arcitc High wandering about near the pole in the near future. The models are showing a displaced PV, with GFS bundling up the energy towards Canada through FI.


If the energy does locate there, we'll be looking more to our N and NE for blocking highs controlling our weather. If blocking holds back, it'll be the Atlantic onslaught that people seeking 'proper autumnal weather' are hoping for.


I can see the risk of the Atlantic running up against blocking to our NE and producing a December 2012 style soaker... this year it seems like we've taken last year's blocking evolution and moved it back a few months. In which case, November 2009 also comes to mind, should the Atlantic wake up properly


If you have any problems or queries relating to TWO you can Email [email protected]

https://twitter.com/peacockreports 
2023's Homeland Extremes:
T-Max: 30.2°C 9th Sep (...!) | T-Min: -7.1°C 22nd & 23rd Jan | Wettest Day: 25.9mm 2nd Nov | Ice Days: 1 (2nd Dec -1.3°C in freezing fog)
Keep Calm and Forecast On
Gooner
30 September 2013 11:07:13



Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


It's amazing the amount of people I'm getting emailing me asking when autumn is going to set in!


People do have their limits and then they like a change - Same thing happened in March/April with the cold.


I keep telling folks that the autumn gales and rain will come and to make the most of the quet conditons while they can.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Indeed and me being one of them Gav , I like seasons to be seasons 19c -20c light winds and calm at the start of October ......................not for me


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Sevendust
30 September 2013 11:21:02




Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Originally Posted by: Gooner 


It's amazing the amount of people I'm getting emailing me asking when autumn is going to set in!


People do have their limits and then they like a change - Same thing happened in March/April with the cold.


I keep telling folks that the autumn gales and rain will come and to make the most of the quet conditons while they can.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Indeed and me being one of them Gav , I like seasons to be seasons 19c -20c light winds and calm at the start of October ......................not for me


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Reckon its payback for the cold spring - tbh autumn, although associated with high rainfall and gales, is often not like that. It's reminding me of 1995 at the moment which was initially very benign and pretty mild but things changed 

Gooner
30 September 2013 13:06:26





Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


It's amazing the amount of people I'm getting emailing me asking when autumn is going to set in!


People do have their limits and then they like a change - Same thing happened in March/April with the cold.


I keep telling folks that the autumn gales and rain will come and to make the most of the quet conditons while they can.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Indeed and me being one of them Gav , I like seasons to be seasons 19c -20c light winds and calm at the start of October ......................not for me


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Reckon its payback for the cold spring - tbh autumn, although associated with high rainfall and gales, is often not like that. It's reminding me of 1995 at the moment which was initially very benign and pretty mild but things changed 


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


I'd settle for that


http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/index.php?/topic/49493-the-winter-of-1995-96/


 



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
30 September 2013 13:08:19


There looks to be an Arcitc High wandering about near the pole in the near future. The models are showing a displaced PV, with GFS bundling up the energy towards Canada through FI.


If the energy does locate there, we'll be looking more to our N and NE for blocking highs controlling our weather. If blocking holds back, it'll be the Atlantic onslaught that people seeking 'proper autumnal weather' are hoping for.


I can see the risk of the Atlantic running up against blocking to our NE and producing a December 2012 style soaker... this year it seems like we've taken last year's blocking evolution and moved it back a few months. In which case, November 2009 also comes to mind, should the Atlantic wake up properly


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


I've noticed western Russia is rather cold now. Moscow has been well into single figures.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Osprey
30 September 2013 13:14:34





Thanks Martin as always.


The 'Autumn' season got off to a promising start (promising if you like windy weather LOL) but all seems fairly benign just now with not a lot going on (after the weekend's activity on the southwest).



Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


It's amazing the amount of people I'm getting emailing me asking when autumn is going to set in!


People do have their limits and then they like a change - Same thing happened in March/April with the cold.


I keep telling folks that the autumn gales and rain will come and to make the most of the quet conditons while they can.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Indeed and me being one of them Gav , I like seasons to be seasons 19c -20c light winds and calm at the start of October ......................not for me


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


Reckon its payback for the cold spring - tbh autumn, although associated with high rainfall and gales, is often not like that. It's reminding me of 1995 at the moment which was initially very benign and pretty mild but things changed 


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


September is the "inbetweener of Summer and Autumn.


Sometimes favouring Autumn cold rain and sometimes on the Summer side which has so far this year. The same for this


years spring which was heavy on the winter side


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/run1m/cfs-0-630.png 


Nobody likes a smartass, especially another smartass...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Users browsing this topic

    Remove ads from site

    Ads