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stormwatcher
25 October 2013 16:56:34



Since when have 80mph gusts hit the south coast once or twice a year?

I'm 27 years old and I don't remember there ever being gusts that strong across southern England. Coastal or otherise (I'm too young to remember 1990 or 1987).


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


The October 1987 storm was the worst in SE England since 1703 and the second worst in the pst 600 years.


The biggest one ever was one in the 14th Century which is reckoned to have delivered gusts to 140 mph across most of central England and Wales .


 


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 

  hi manUtdMatt  u miss some strong storms have u watch the 1987 videos on youtube . i was 7 at the time of the 87 one and can still remember it like yesterday likely i was'nt effected too bad but the caravan park in peacehaven where i use to live was wipe out and four police cars that went to help out all were  damage .also the roofs of the houses at the cliff front had all theirs roofs cave in and windows blown out luckly no deaths in peacehaven but i heard there was some in the next town at a nursing home . in a way do hope it won'nt be so intense . but one good news if it does happen you get to see the neighbours helping each other out . 


hi hungry tiger i heard the highest wind record at shoreham was at 115 -120mph and also out of sea near eastbourne there a light house that measure wind at 12omph that the hightest the anemometer  could go i was wondering because of blackouts and recording can't measure higher than 120mph do you think the winds were higher because normandy measure winds at 132mph . just a thought  

Jiries
25 October 2013 17:26:23

From a personal point of view I do quite enjoy being inside and hearing the wind howling outside - and it's my day off on Monday so I don't have to go out in it. But then we don't have any big trees to come crashing onto the house, so I can see why others may be less keen!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


 


I am also off on Monday and only to move the wheelie bins from the alleyway to the back garden and 2 small bins in the shed with garden plastic chairs and a table also to put inside.  Maybe a 3ft fence or 2 may come off from the concrete support since it loose and often come down in strong winds.

Twister
25 October 2013 17:28:21

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013102512/69-289.GIF?25-12


If I'm reading that correctly, GFS 12Z is predicting gusts exceeding 110 knots along the Kent channel coast...and widely exceeding 100 knots in Kent and coastal Sussex


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doctormog
25 October 2013 17:31:09

http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013102512/69-289.GIF?25-12


If I'm reading that correctly, GFS 12Z is predicting gusts exceeding 110 knots along the Kent channel coast...and widely exceeding 100 knots in Kent and coastal Sussex


Originally Posted by: Twister 



I think those values are in kph Twister 😄

The 12z NAVGEM looks a bit nasty for southern parts this evening. I wonder what the ECM will show?
Aberdeen
Current conditions (personal WS) 
Twister
25 October 2013 17:33:36


http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013102512/69-289.GIF?25-12


If I'm reading that correctly, GFS 12Z is predicting gusts exceeding 110 knots along the Kent channel coast...and widely exceeding 100 knots in Kent and coastal Sussex



Originally Posted by: doctormog 



I think those values are in kph Twister Smile

The 12z NAVGEM looks a bit nasty for southern parts this evening. I wonder what the ECM will show?

Originally Posted by: Twister 


I hope you're right Doc, but is "noeuds" in the top left French for knots?

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kingdeacon
25 October 2013 17:35:26




Since when have 80mph gusts hit the south coast once or twice a year?

I'm 27 years old and I don't remember there ever being gusts that strong across southern England. Coastal or otherise (I'm too young to remember 1990 or 1987).


Originally Posted by: stormwatcher 


The October 1987 storm was the worst in SE England since 1703 and the second worst in the pst 600 years.


The biggest one ever was one in the 14th Century which is reckoned to have delivered gusts to 140 mph across most of central England and Wales .


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 

  hi manUtdMatt  u miss some strong storms have u watch the 1987 videos on youtube . i was 7 at the time of the 87 one and can still remember it like yesterday likely i was'nt efeected too bad but the cavervan park in peacehaven where i use to live was wipe out and four police cars that went to help out all were  damage .also the roofs of the houses at the cliff front had all theirs roofs cave in and windows blown out luckly no deaths in peacehaven but i heard there was some in the next town at a nursing home . in a way do hope it won'nt be so intense . but one good news if it does happen you get to see the neighbours helping each other out . 


hi hungry tiger i heard the highest wind record at shoreham was at 115 -120mph and also out of sea near eastbourne there a light house that measure wind at 12omph that the hightest the anemometer  could go i was wondering because of blackouts and recording can't measure higher than 120mph do you think the winds were higher because normandy measure winds at 132mph . just a thought  


Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


 


I live in Peacehaven, we got a battering in 1987, and could well do again soon by looks of it.


I'm one of the rare few that's looking forward to it though.

Polar Low
25 October 2013 17:35:53

It will get better now u come on it always does, Thanks Jiries better than any forecast.


 



From a personal point of view I do quite enjoy being inside and hearing the wind howling outside - and it's my day off on Monday so I don't have to go out in it. But then we don't have any big trees to come crashing onto the house, so I can see why others may be less keen!

Originally Posted by: Jiries 


 


I am also off on Monday and only to move the wheelie bins from the alleyway to the back garden and 2 small bins in the shed with garden plastic chairs and a table also to put inside.  Maybe a 3ft fence or 2 may come off from the concrete support since it loose and often come down in strong winds.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

radiohead
25 October 2013 17:39:30



http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013102512/69-289.GIF?25-12


If I'm reading that correctly, GFS 12Z is predicting gusts exceeding 110 knots along the Kent channel coast...and widely exceeding 100 knots in Kent and coastal Sussex



Originally Posted by: Twister 



I think those values are in kph Twister Smile

The 12z NAVGEM looks a bit nasty for southern parts this evening. I wonder what the ECM will show?

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I hope you're right Doc, but is "noeuds" in the top left French for knots?


Originally Posted by: Twister 


 


That's in km/h. "Noeuds" are the wind barbs.

ballogie
25 October 2013 17:39:48


[quote=doctormog;543155][quote=Twister;543149]


 


I hope you're right Doc, but is "noeuds" in the top left French for knots?


Originally Posted by: Twister 


 


yep, the barbs are in knots. short barb 5kt, long barb 10kt, pennant 50kt

Twister
25 October 2013 17:41:55




http://91.121.16.5/modeles_gfs/runs/2013102512/69-289.GIF?25-12


If I'm reading that correctly, GFS 12Z is predicting gusts exceeding 110 knots along the Kent channel coast...and widely exceeding 100 knots in Kent and coastal Sussex



Originally Posted by: radiohead 



I think those values are in kph Twister Smile

The 12z NAVGEM looks a bit nasty for southern parts this evening. I wonder what the ECM will show?

Originally Posted by: Twister 


I hope you're right Doc, but is "noeuds" in the top left French for knots?


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


That's in km/h. "Noeuds" are the wind barbs.


Originally Posted by: Twister 


Thanks for confirming... *phew!*

Location: Egerton, Kent - 33m ASL
Thunder 2016: 12 (Apr 3,13; May 21; Jun 8,11,17,22,23,25, Jul 2,12, Aug 26)
Winter 2015/6: Snowfalls: 10 | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 17 (0.5cm)) | Air frosts: 39
Winter 2016/7: Snowfalls: 4 (Jan 12-3, Feb 10-11) | Snowcover: 2 (Jan 13, 2cm, Feb 11, 3-5mm) | Air frosts: 57 (2 in Oct, 10 in Nov, 13 in Dec, 19 in Jan, 6 in Feb, 3 in Mar, 4 in Apr)
"The heavens tell of the glory of God. The skies display his marvellous craftsmanship." (Psalm 19:1)
moomin75
25 October 2013 18:11:43

Good lord, just seen the ECM chart for Monday, and it's the worst yet in my eyes. Sub 970mb and the strongest winds shown in a swathe south of Birmingham to the south coast.


Batten down the hatches!!


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm721.gif

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
radiohead
25 October 2013 18:15:10

12Z ECMWF has the low at 967mb over Wales at 72 hours :


http://i.imgur.com/JOtDnV3.jpg 

stormwatcher
25 October 2013 18:16:58





Since when have 80mph gusts hit the south coast once or twice a year?

I'm 27 years old and I don't remember there ever being gusts that strong across southern England. Coastal or otherise (I'm too young to remember 1990 or 1987).


Originally Posted by: kingdeacon 


The October 1987 storm was the worst in SE England since 1703 and the second worst in the pst 600 years.


The biggest one ever was one in the 14th Century which is reckoned to have delivered gusts to 140 mph across most of central England and Wales .


 


Originally Posted by: stormwatcher 

  hi manUtdMatt  u miss some strong storms have u watch the 1987 videos on youtube . i was 7 at the time of the 87 one and can still remember it like yesterday likely i was'nt efeected too bad but the cavervan park in peacehaven where i use to live was wipe out and four police cars that went to help out all were  damage .also the roofs of the houses at the cliff front had all theirs roofs cave in and windows blown out luckly no deaths in peacehaven but i heard there was some in the next town at a nursing home . in a way do hope it won'nt be so intense . but one good news if it does happen you get to see the neighbours helping each other out . 


hi hungry tiger i heard the highest wind record at shoreham was at 115 -120mph and also out of sea near eastbourne there a light house that measure wind at 12omph that the hightest the anemometer  could go i was wondering because of blackouts and recording can't measure higher than 120mph do you think the winds were higher because normandy measure winds at 132mph . just a thought  


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


 


I live in Peacehaven, we got a battering in 1987, and could well do again soon by looks of it.


I'm one of the rare few that's looking forward to it though.


 

Originally Posted by: ManUtdMatt1986 


hi Kingdeacon 


the caravan park was rushy hill where all the caravans were destory and the police cars were damage ?   were you badly effected by the storm also do you remember the sea foam it look like the  sea was having a bubble bath lol  btw my mother still lives in the town and i still live a few miles east

Highdownfox
25 October 2013 18:30:22

I lurk and I read but rarely post so hi! I am no expert at reading the charts but this is giving me the heeby jeebies. Would previously have gotten more than a little excited at the prospect of a system like this but now as a mother and homeowner my perspective has changed some-what.


I will be interested to see what my natural barometer partner makes of this. He normally gets his headaches 24 - 36 hours prior to a low arriving but this scenario might just sneak past him.

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Gandalf The White
25 October 2013 18:33:58

The ECM 850hPa wind chart for Monday 12z is one for the scrap books, I think:


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf/runs/2013102512/ECF4-72.GIF?25-0 


Winds at around cloud level (5000 feet) off the scale in the core: above 180 km/hr

Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


radiohead
25 October 2013 18:45:31

This is the National Weather Serivce Ocean Prediction Center 48 hour chart (midday Sunday)


http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/shtml/A_48hrbw.gif 


Note the "Developing hurricane force".

springsunshine
25 October 2013 18:58:23

I certainly do remember the 1987 `hurricane` i was out fishing the night it came in.


Around midnight everything went dead still and eerilly quiet,even the canada geese stopped honking and the lake was like a mirror.


Total calm,something didn`t feel right,it was spooky!


Ten minutes or so passed and a gentle breeze started and with each passing minute it became stronger and stronger.


By 12.30-1am we all decided to wind the rods in and head back to our cars,leaving the gear in our swims.


By now trees were being shaken like rag dolls and it was quite frightening.We all moved our cars into open ground away from


the overhanging trees and it was decided to stay put rather than risk driving home.


The wind was so feroucious the car was actually rocking like it was being shaken and a constant roar accompanied the now torrential rain.This was one hell of a storm and a bit scary but we all agreed the safest thing to do was to stay put and wait.


By the time daylight broke the winds had dropped to a mere gale.We emerged from our cars and took a walk back to where we had set up for the night.The scene that we saw can only be described as total devestation! All round the lake fallen trees including massive oak trees had been felled,branches and debris everywhere.


It was a night i`ll always remember and whilst most people were tucked up in bed i and my friends experienced the `87 `hurricane` first hand. It showed how powerful and destructive nature can be when she gets angry.

idj20
25 October 2013 19:12:02


I certainly do remember the 1987 `hurricane` i was out fishing the night it came in.


Around midnight everything went dead still and eerilly quiet,even the canada geese stopped honking and the lake was like a mirror.


Total calm,something didn`t feel right,it was spooky!


Ten minutes or so passed and a gentle breeze started and with each passing minute it became stronger and stronger.


By 12.30-1am we all decided to wind the rods in and head back to our cars,leaving the gear in our swims.


By now trees were being shaken like rag dolls and it was quite frightening.We all moved our cars into open ground away from


the overhanging trees and it was decided to stay put rather than risk driving home.


The wind was so feroucious the car was actually rocking like it was being shaken and a constant roar accompanied the now torrential rain.This was one hell of a storm and a bit scary but we all agreed the safest thing to do was to stay put and wait.


By the time daylight broke the winds had dropped to a mere gale.We emerged from our cars and took a walk back to where we had set up for the night.The scene that we saw can only be described as total devestation! All round the lake fallen trees including massive oak trees had been felled,branches and debris everywhere.


It was a night i`ll always remember and whilst most people were tucked up in bed i and my friends experienced the `87 `hurricane` first hand. It showed how powerful and destructive nature can be when she gets angry.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 



  If that isn't up close and personal, I dunno what is!

Folkestone Harbour. 
Essan
25 October 2013 19:17:23


I certainly do remember the 1987 `hurricane` i was out fishing the night it came in.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


I take it you didn't see the weather forecast?   Torrential rain and severe gales, and you go fishing?!

Andy
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Essan
25 October 2013 19:20:11

Anyway, looks like this storm could be nearly as bad as "Hurricane Bawbag"    Though whether we'll see 135kph sustained windspeed and 265kph gusts remains to be seen.   At least this time it won't be affecting anywhere that matters

Andy
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Jason H
25 October 2013 19:21:17

  Seems to be slipping further South with each run. I blummin hope so! :(

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Osprey
25 October 2013 19:24:28

87' I remember we stayed indoors and it was very noisy we saw some of those heavy plain grey roof tile go past our window from a few doors up the road


Was bloody scary hence not looking forward to this event...

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KevBrads1
25 October 2013 19:25:11
People keep referring to the October 87 storm but what about the 30th October 2000 storm? That was some storm that even brought snow. Will it surpass this event?
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