Sorry for a dumb question, but I've been trying to pick up some of your language for a while now... Whwre can I find a key to the symbols on Rob's last chart.  Obviously the stars = snow, but for example, what are the triangles, etc?

Thanks in advance

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3601.png

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn36017.png

Deep into FI the cold theme continues

Some ice days in the mix even for even mid England and Wales, Very cold nights to come

very cold for November little doubt.

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/temperatures-2m/144h.htm

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013111412/gfsnh-1-348.png?12

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013111412/gfsnh-1-360.png?12

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013111412/gfsnh-1-372.png?12

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2013111412/gfsnh-1-384.png?12

The cold starts to get right into Europe

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1201.gif

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rukm1441.gif

Cold Met/o 12z.

One thing of note on the 144 there is the westward ridging of the 'Beast'... 

After seeing the 12z Met Office run, our friends over at "the other place" are already starting to slit their wrists.

Can't they see the potential and the fact that it's November???

Hope this helps, need to copy paste  as Firefox does not allow the live link.

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Great, thanks Nousca - exactly what I needed

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/runs/2013111412/gemnh-0-192.png?12

You would be happy with that

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gens-0-1-348.png?12

GFS CONTROL is of course the 2010 redux

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gens-0-1-336.png?12

How good would that be from the Control lol .........................dreamland ...if only

EDIT...Didnt see Steve's

Snow settles in places??

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=-&VAR=weas&HH=132&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD=

very low dew points

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-bin/expertcharts?LANG=en&MENU=0000000000&CONT=ukuk&MODELL=gfs&MODELLTYP=1&BASE=-&VAR=taup&HH=138&ZOOM=0&ARCHIV=0&RES=0&WMO=&PERIOD=

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/runs/2013111412/gemnh-0-192.png?12

You would be happy with that

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

If you like cool drizzly greyness

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

Michael you got buried in a snowy easterly back in December 2010!

I remember watching the webcam of Aberdeen in a total whiteout.

Yes but charts like that never happen, I mean literally never. 50mph winds driving in constant snowstorms for basically the entire UK would be great. But also mythical!

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/runs/2013111412/gemnh-0-192.png?12

You would be happy with that

Originally Posted by: doctormog 

If you like cool drizzly greyness

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

The 850's aren't great , but would come good in time

Hi Steve

Initial thoughts from me are that the east will get a lot of precipitation on the latest runs. The North Sea is going to be a very convectively volatile place at times

As Michael mentioned, the warmth of that body of water will be a blessing and a curse depending on your location. Coastal areas could see a lot of cold rain but at elevation, especially on the eastern side of the Pennines, it could get very snowy 

it did in 62/63 Q never say never

I've seen the 62-63 charts and they were pretty incredible. But nothing came close to that GEFS run. 47 maybe got close a few times; but if that chart happened literally it would be absolute chaos. The thing is, while seeing charts like that on the models is quite common at long ranges, these ghosts never materialise. 

Yes I think feet firmly on the ground would be applicable, but gosh it is tempting to ramp with those beauties  

Goodness me gm if that was a little later

http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/geme_cartes.php?&ech=216&mode=0&carte=1

http://www.jp2webdesign.co.uk/two/ensembles/

Interesting!