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Essan
Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:59:52 AM

Aye

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24887337

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SEMerc
Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:47:10 AM

I think this is one of those times when the use of the word 'catastrophic' wouldn't be an exaggeration.

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Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:54:05 AM

I would be nothing short of flabbergasted if its that low. Coastal Vietnam is going to get slammed as well.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Indeed.

Sadly, the death toll is now starting to mount up. UserPostedImagehttp://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/334671/news/nation/yolanda-on-the-way-out-56-fatalities-reported 

Originally Posted by: idj20 



I expect the final tally to be hundreds, if not into the thousands. That's purely based on historical similarities. Hopefully wide of the mark.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Oh dear 😞 This now looks a conservative estimate
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nouska
Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:00:13 AM


Local government official out there just quoted by Sky as saying death toll could hit 10,000.


Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


(Reuters) - At least 10,000 people died in the central Philippine province of Leyte after Typhoon Haiyan


There has been no mention of Eastern Samar, ground zero - does it even exist to count casualties - on that note.....


 


CATBALOGAN CITY, Philippines - Giporlos and Guiuan in Eastern Samar are in ruins, with typhoon Yolanda damaging 95 percent of the two towns, according to eyewitness accounts on Sunday, November 10.

Because of the devastation, there are no clear estimates of casualties or survivors, they added.

Mark Biong, mayor of Giporlos, travelled 8 hours via a motorbike from his town to this city to report the devastation in Giporlos. In normal times, the road trip from Giporlos to Tacloban takes only one-and-half hours.

"It's total destruction," Biong told government officials and reporters here. At least 95% of the town has been damaged, he added. Giporlos is a coastal town, one of 22 municipalities of Eastern Samar. A 2010 census puts its population at 12,000.


http://www.rappler.com/nation/43345-eastern-samar-towns-ruins-yolanda

AIMSIR
Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:54:01 PM

I just heard a report earlier that there could be another less intense storm on the way.


 Bloody hell.


I don't have any more details.

nouska
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25:55 PM
Yes Aimsir, similar path but only rain issue atm - a nightmare for all the people without shelter.

Found this pic of PAGASA's weather station in GUIUAN, SAMAR - looks like tornadic aftermath there.

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5683/61ux.jpg 
Essan
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:35:13 PM

Yes Aimsir, similar path but only rain issue atm - a nightmare for all the people without shelter.

Originally Posted by: nouska 



Rain could prove more catastrophic than wind with flooding and landslides .......    And the typhoon season is by no means over yet.

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AIMSIR
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:41:03 PM
That is severe damage for sure.


Even the trees that are left standing have had their tops blown off.


It's hard to comprehend that this type of destruction was so widespread.


 

Saint Snow
Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:42:04 PM

Early hopes that the death toll would be mercifully low due to advanced warnings, etc look to have been sadly premature. Shocking scenes of devastation.


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nsrobins
Monday, November 11, 2013 4:25:21 PM


Apparently the death toll is only three which is surprisingly - and mercifully - low for such an event. But I'm sure the total will slowly creep up as more details emerges in time.
  Or perhaps their warning/shelter system turned out to be effective.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


With the death toll now estimated to be in excess of 10,000, and probably never really be known, one has to ask about the initial 'effective warnings' reports from the area.
The question is, were the evacuation orders issued, heard by most in the path but simply ignored, or is it a case that many locations did not get the evacuation orders at all?

The catastrophic scenes we are seeing now, which look more akin to the Japanese Tsunami, are conmeasurate with the winds and storm surge associated with a storm of such intensity and the evacuation of the coastal strip was imperitive. If the citizens recieved the information but chose to stay, then fair enough - that's their choice - but if they didn't get the right information then someone higher up has some very searching questions to answer IMO.

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nouska
Monday, November 11, 2013 5:41:14 PM
I was astonished by some of the pictures of the evacuation centres being shown on the web hours before the storm arrived. In one, a hundred plus children playing on the floor of a church - the church had beautiful floor to ceiling stained glass windows that were uncovered. That was the powerful image that filled my mind as the eye made landfall.

Given the type of buildings they have, height above sea level and density of population, the task of finding safe shelter to withstand the onslaught for all would be a Herculean task.

On the subject of shelter, I was looking for appropriate charities to donate to - this caught my attention.

http://www.shelterbox.org/ 

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Monday, November 11, 2013 5:53:41 PM
Absolutely harrowing scenes 😱 [sn_dead]
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nsrobins
Monday, November 11, 2013 5:58:22 PM


It is so easy to be critical sat here in an air-conditioned office with my afternoon coffee, but you are right.
It is obvious to all who give it a bit of thought that the claims on Friday of 'mass evacuations' were to say the least grossly exagerated. It looks like several hundreds of thousands of citizens were left behind in the path of the storm, either by choice or ignorance, and it is clear the death and suffering are on a monumental scale at the moment.
For a country 'used' to these storms, this one has exceeded previous occurences by a clear margin and one can only hope the aid agencies are mobilised as efficiently as possible before disease and starvation add to the situation.

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Monday, November 11, 2013 6:09:23 PM
Actually this is beyond harrowing. I can't even watch the BBC reports 😞
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mat
Monday, November 11, 2013 6:09:30 PM

I think the evacuations did occur... I believe people went (in the main) to the Govt. buildings; but sadly nothing could cope with those wind speeds, nor the 45ft waves from the storm surge...


Obviously, some people didn't go to the evacuations centres, as will happen everywhere


Those wind conditions were extreme, one of the most powerful on record.  Buildings which would have coped with "normal" tropical storms had no hope.  Hence why most of Tacloban has disappeared.   How do you build to those conditions???  What would have been required? 


 


Horendous to see.  I feel for those who survived.  Very very sad

Essan
Monday, November 11, 2013 8:09:49 PM

Just put BBC News on - first TV coverage I've seen.

Sh*t

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Monday, November 11, 2013 8:14:32 PM

Just put BBC News on - first TV coverage I've seen.

Sh*t UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: Essan 



I turned it over. There was one piece with a man and his three sons who's wife/mother had been crushed by a tree. They couldn't even get her out from under it to bury her. Understandably he could barely even talk about it. Awful [sn_disap]
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Monday, November 11, 2013 10:35:06 PM

You can donate to the Philippines Red Cross directly here.
http://ushare.redcross.org.ph/
1000 Philipine Pesos is about £14 which seems a sensible minimum. 

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moomin75
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:39:32 PM

Any death is a tragedy, and this is certainly very harrowing indeed.


However, the latest from the president of the Phillipines suggests the death toll had been vastly over-estimated.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24920250


Even if this is correct, it's a massive human catastrophe and reminds us all the power of nature once again.


 

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Saint Snow
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:36:28 PM

Doesn't Jiries have connections to the Philippines? Has anyone heard from him since?


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Dan
Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:11:09 PM

Shocking scenes they really are. I was following the developments of Haiyan closely as my brother is in Bohol, the island that was hit by the earthquake last month. Thankfully their area was about 100 miles south of the centre of the storm and missed the devastating winds and storm surge...2 days of no contact was not nice though, I dread to think what others must be going through. It really was a monster storm, like nothing I've seen before and if the death toll is nearer to 2,500, whilst so tragic, I thought it would be a lot more having seen the footage which thankfully may not be the case.


Watching the news coverage is horrible, the only thing to do is donate and hope aid gets through quickly.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM

Doesn't Jiries have connections to the Philippines? Has anyone heard from him since?

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



He posted in here after the storm had passed to say it missed the area where his wife is from. He's been online here today, so hopefully all ok.
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Tuesday, November 12, 2013 11:41:17 PM
Hopefully a revision by some sources of the number of fatalities down to a couple of thousand total, rather than the 10k+ of a day or two back is more accurate. Still horrendous, obviously.
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Jiries
Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:18:39 PM


Doesn't Jiries have connections to the Philippines? Has anyone heard from him since?


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


I haven't been here often lately but had been very closely watching the news about it.  Just very lucky that our house didn't get destroyed as my wife's home town further south was on the edge of it so just like UK wet and windy weather type.  Sadly one of the filipino worker here lost her house in her badly effected region but her family survived.  Can't imagined how she can cope being here and knowing her house gone and her family suffering from hunger and thirst.

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Sunday, November 17, 2013 10:38:01 PM
I know ITV's news coverage is amateur at the best of times, but according to the reporter on there now, it was a tornado that struck the Philippines 😒
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