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doctormog
Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:37:26 AM

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1441.gif


ECM 144 is loaded with long term potential this morning. 


 

Originally Posted by: Gusty 



Indeed Steve. You could end up with almost anything a few days after that chart. It still seems to be an evolving and uncertain situation after the next couple of days with cooler than average conditions being the more likely option. Perhaps not anything exceptionally wintry although I guess the possibility is there.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Reem1921.gif 
White Meadows
Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:42:09 AM
Things look better for prolonged cold this morning. As always a block to the north is not easily handled and things will continue to wobble.
Retron
Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:42:38 AM
0z ECM ensembles:

http://oi41.tinypic.com/29au2s2.jpg 

Interesting to see that the operational was one of the mildest on Wednesday but by days 9 and 10 it was a cold outlier.
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Whether Idle
Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:50:57 AM

Clearly a veritable smorgasboard of options available to model watchers this morning.  The evolution at 144 is in doubt - beyond that is pure speculation, I suppose that's what this thread is for - so long as people dont get too manic! 


A cold and wintry outlook is very much progged for November's final third.  The ECM is obviously a cold outlier in FI, but shows what could occur.  The sun has as much strength of November 20th as it does on January 20th.  We are entering the core of the "solar winter"; and 2010 reminded folks of what the final third of November is capable of, cold-wise.  A great time to be a model watcher.


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Gusty
Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:52:48 AM

What is apparent is that there is a background signal is for lower heights to our south and higher heights to our north. Extremely encouraging for longer term cold synoptics.


The models are currently struggling at the moment as to where the 'core' of the heights are going to sit. Our midweek 'relative downgrade' appears to be due to the fact that they are toying with the idea of a Scandinavian block rather than a Greenland block (as progged a day or two ago).


The price we have to pay for this relative downgrade in wintry potential this week could be at the expense of a longer, more sustained and colder long term situation.


interesting times. 


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GIBBY
Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:05:54 AM

Hi everyone. Here is the report on the midnight outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Saturday November 16th 2013.


All models show agreement now on the pattern of events up to the middle of next week. A slack airflow over the UK will persist today with cloud invading the still cold and frosty SE later today. Some light rain in the NW intensifies later as a cold front sinks slowly South over the next 24-48hrs. A band of rain will accompany it before colder clearer weather follows slowly behind reaching Southern England later on Monday. With a cold NW airflow then showers will be driven into Northern and Western areas and will turn to snow on all high ground and some lower ground too at times. Southern and Eastern England will see relatively few showers and will see some cold sunshine through these days.


GFS then shows the post midweek period as becoming dry and frosty over the UK with mist and fog problems night and morning as High pressure builds across from the West. Later in the run Southern and Western areas are shown to turn more unsettled as a chilly SE flow develops with pressure falling to the SW sending rain bearing troughs NE into Southern and Western Britain. Northern and Eastern areas look like staying predominently dry and rather chilly throughout the run with this weather type extending back over the South too at the end of the run.


UKMO closes it's run with High pressure sliding SE across the UK with settled and dry weather but pretty cold conditions at the surface and overnight frost and freezing fog could become a big problem for commuters towards the end of next week and may fail to clear by day in places.


GEM this morning shows a progression towards mostly dry and fine weather following the cold weather early in the week with wintry showers. With High pressure just to the West a lot of rather cloudy and benign coditions look likely with temperatures just below average but with some frost at night behind weak cold fronts passing South at times when skies clear.


NAVGEM shows High pressure building across more Northern locations later next week but the South maintains a very cold and blustery ENE flow with rain and sleet at times and snow on the hills. Some frost and freezing fog patches will develop over the cold and less windy North late on in the run.


ECM brings high pressure across from the West midweek snubbing out the Northerly flow and frost and fog in calm conditions look likely for a day or two. Pressure falls to the West and later the South with a chilly SE then NE wind across the South with rain at times later with even a little sleet over the hills while Northern areas stay largely dry and rather cold.


The GFS Ensembles show a short cold snap before conditions slowly recover to very much average conditions for late November. A period of stagnant High pressure seems likely with frost and fog at the surface issues late next week before the mean for the pack suggests the Atlantic cranking up later with rain and strong winds crossing East over the Uk on occasions late in the run.


The Jet Stream shows the flow way North of the UK currently before it turns sharply South early next week. This northern arm then detaches from a weaker Southern arm and continues to blow strongly East at high latitudes later next week suggesting UK High pressure. It does break down later and resets closer to the UK later in the run.


In Summary the Northerly of next week still looks like there is an opprtunity of a day or two when snowfall could be seen by some parts of the UK chiefly in the North and West and over the hills. Thereafter High pressure looks likely to build in from the West or NW with a chilly and raw day or two possible in the South on a ENE flow around midweek. It looks likely the High will migrate East then into Europe and maintain a ridge West or NW over Northern Britain. This sets up a SE flow over the South and with falling pressure down to the SW rain would make progress into these parts with time to give dull and uninspiring late November conditions down here with some rain at times while Northern locations stay largely dry and bright if on the chilly side. most output does suggest High pressure in the Scandinavian region later in the run and this could be the catalyst for more blocking conditions for the UK which could in time result in further cold outbreaks developing as we drift deeper towards Winter official from December 1st. For now though all of the above suggests typical November weather for the UK.


Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


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Andy Woodcock
Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:12:59 AM
Looking at the fax charts i dont really see a downgrade, next week was alway going to be a 2 day cold wintry spell followed by frost and sunshine. That outlook is still the same so no change. Both Tuesday and Wednesday have great potential for surprise falls of wet snow anywhere, after that it looks dry and cold. For mid November that outlook is bloody good. Andy
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Andy Woodcock
Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:21:41 AM

Hi everyone. Here is the report on the midnight outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Saturday November 16th 2013.


All models show agreement now on the pattern of events up to the middle of next week. A slack airflow over the UK will persist today with cloud invading the still cold and frosty SE later today. Some light rain in the NW intensifies later as a cold front sinks slowly South over the next 24-48hrs. A band of rain will accompany it before colder clearer weather follows slowly behind reaching Southern England later on Monday. With a cold NW airflow then showers will be driven into Northern and Western areas and will turn to snow on all high ground and some lower ground too at times. Southern and Eastern England will see relatively few showers and will see some cold sunshine through these days.


GFS then shows the post midweek period as becoming dry and frosty over the UK with mist and fog problems night and morning as High pressure builds across from the West. Later in the run Southern and Western areas are shown to turn more unsettled as a chilly SE flow develops with pressure falling to the SW sending rain bearing troughs NE into Southern and Western Britain. Northern and Eastern areas look like staying predominently dry and rather chilly throughout the run with this weather type extending back over the South too at the end of the run.


UKMO closes it's run with High pressure sliding SE across the UK with settled and dry weather but pretty cold conditions at the surface and overnight frost and freezing fog could become a big problem for commuters towards the end of next week and may fail to clear by day in places.


GEM this morning shows a progression towards mostly dry and fine weather following the cold weather early in the week with wintry showers. With High pressure just to the West a lot of rather cloudy and benign coditions look likely with temperatures just below average but with some frost at night behind weak cold fronts passing South at times when skies clear.


NAVGEM shows High pressure building across more Northern locations later next week but the South maintains a very cold and blustery ENE flow with rain and sleet at times and snow on the hills. Some frost and freezing fog patches will develop over the cold and less windy North late on in the run.


ECM brings high pressure across from the West midweek snubbing out the Northerly flow and frost and fog in calm conditions look likely for a day or two. Pressure falls to the West and later the South with a chilly SE then NE wind across the South with rain at times later with even a little sleet over the hills while Northern areas stay largely dry and rather cold.


The GFS Ensembles show a short cold snap before conditions slowly recover to very much average conditions for late November. A period of stagnant High pressure seems likely with frost and fog at the surface issues late next week before the mean for the pack suggests the Atlantic cranking up later with rain and strong winds crossing East over the Uk on occasions late in the run.


The Jet Stream shows the flow way North of the UK currently before it turns sharply South early next week. This northern arm then detaches from a weaker Southern arm and continues to blow strongly East at high latitudes later next week suggesting UK High pressure. It does break down later and resets closer to the UK later in the run.


In Summary the Northerly of next week still looks like there is an opprtunity of a day or two when snowfall could be seen by some parts of the UK chiefly in the North and West and over the hills. Thereafter High pressure looks likely to build in from the West or NW with a chilly and raw day or two possible in the South on a ENE flow around midweek. It looks likely the High will migrate East then into Europe and maintain a ridge West or NW over Northern Britain. This sets up a SE flow over the South and with falling pressure down to the SW rain would make progress into these parts with time to give dull and uninspiring late November conditions down here with some rain at times while Northern locations stay largely dry and bright if on the chilly side. most output does suggest High pressure in the Scandinavian region later in the run and this could be the catalyst for more blocking conditions for the UK which could in time result in further cold outbreaks developing as we drift deeper towards Winter official from December 1st. For now though all of the above suggests typical November weather for the UK.


Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 



Good summary but i wouldnt real say its typical november weather as temperatures will be below average with widespread air frost and some snow. Typical in mid January maybe but noy mid November. Andy
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briggsy6
Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:41:48 AM

At last we have an end to the zonal train. That jet stream can bu**er off away from our shores for as long as it likes!


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Osprey
Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:50:02 AM

Thank you Martin   Same ole November... Up and down like a witches t*t, will it won't it freeze. Roll on the 21 Dec


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GIBBY
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:04:05 AM


Hi everyone. Here is the report on the midnight outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Saturday November 16th 2013.


All models show agreement now on the pattern of events up to the middle of next week. A slack airflow over the UK will persist today with cloud invading the still cold and frosty SE later today. Some light rain in the NW intensifies later as a cold front sinks slowly South over the next 24-48hrs. A band of rain will accompany it before colder clearer weather follows slowly behind reaching Southern England later on Monday. With a cold NW airflow then showers will be driven into Northern and Western areas and will turn to snow on all high ground and some lower ground too at times. Southern and Eastern England will see relatively few showers and will see some cold sunshine through these days.


GFS then shows the post midweek period as becoming dry and frosty over the UK with mist and fog problems night and morning as High pressure builds across from the West. Later in the run Southern and Western areas are shown to turn more unsettled as a chilly SE flow develops with pressure falling to the SW sending rain bearing troughs NE into Southern and Western Britain. Northern and Eastern areas look like staying predominently dry and rather chilly throughout the run with this weather type extending back over the South too at the end of the run.


UKMO closes it's run with High pressure sliding SE across the UK with settled and dry weather but pretty cold conditions at the surface and overnight frost and freezing fog could become a big problem for commuters towards the end of next week and may fail to clear by day in places.


GEM this morning shows a progression towards mostly dry and fine weather following the cold weather early in the week with wintry showers. With High pressure just to the West a lot of rather cloudy and benign coditions look likely with temperatures just below average but with some frost at night behind weak cold fronts passing South at times when skies clear.


NAVGEM shows High pressure building across more Northern locations later next week but the South maintains a very cold and blustery ENE flow with rain and sleet at times and snow on the hills. Some frost and freezing fog patches will develop over the cold and less windy North late on in the run.


ECM brings high pressure across from the West midweek snubbing out the Northerly flow and frost and fog in calm conditions look likely for a day or two. Pressure falls to the West and later the South with a chilly SE then NE wind across the South with rain at times later with even a little sleet over the hills while Northern areas stay largely dry and rather cold.


The GFS Ensembles show a short cold snap before conditions slowly recover to very much average conditions for late November. A period of stagnant High pressure seems likely with frost and fog at the surface issues late next week before the mean for the pack suggests the Atlantic cranking up later with rain and strong winds crossing East over the Uk on occasions late in the run.


The Jet Stream shows the flow way North of the UK currently before it turns sharply South early next week. This northern arm then detaches from a weaker Southern arm and continues to blow strongly East at high latitudes later next week suggesting UK High pressure. It does break down later and resets closer to the UK later in the run.


In Summary the Northerly of next week still looks like there is an opprtunity of a day or two when snowfall could be seen by some parts of the UK chiefly in the North and West and over the hills. Thereafter High pressure looks likely to build in from the West or NW with a chilly and raw day or two possible in the South on a ENE flow around midweek. It looks likely the High will migrate East then into Europe and maintain a ridge West or NW over Northern Britain. This sets up a SE flow over the South and with falling pressure down to the SW rain would make progress into these parts with time to give dull and uninspiring late November conditions down here with some rain at times while Northern locations stay largely dry and bright if on the chilly side. most output does suggest High pressure in the Scandinavian region later in the run and this could be the catalyst for more blocking conditions for the UK which could in time result in further cold outbreaks developing as we drift deeper towards Winter official from December 1st. For now though all of the above suggests typical November weather for the UK.


Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 



Good summary but i wouldnt real say its typical november weather as temperatures will be below average with widespread air frost and some snow. Typical in mid January maybe but noy mid November. Andy

Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


In my lifetime of experience it is typical November weather with the chance of fog and frost and cool grey days plus the chance of sunshine and showers, wintry on hills. I can't think of anything more typical than that for November unless you think it should be very warm or blizzards of snow.


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Osprey
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:08:25 AM



Hi everyone. Here is the report on the midnight outputs from GFS, UKMO, GEM, NAVGEM and ECM for today Saturday November 16th 2013.


All models show agreement now on the pattern of events up to the middle of next week. A slack airflow over the UK will persist today with cloud invading the still cold and frosty SE later today. Some light rain in the NW intensifies later as a cold front sinks slowly South over the next 24-48hrs. A band of rain will accompany it before colder clearer weather follows slowly behind reaching Southern England later on Monday. With a cold NW airflow then showers will be driven into Northern and Western areas and will turn to snow on all high ground and some lower ground too at times. Southern and Eastern England will see relatively few showers and will see some cold sunshine through these days.


GFS then shows the post midweek period as becoming dry and frosty over the UK with mist and fog problems night and morning as High pressure builds across from the West. Later in the run Southern and Western areas are shown to turn more unsettled as a chilly SE flow develops with pressure falling to the SW sending rain bearing troughs NE into Southern and Western Britain. Northern and Eastern areas look like staying predominently dry and rather chilly throughout the run with this weather type extending back over the South too at the end of the run.


UKMO closes it's run with High pressure sliding SE across the UK with settled and dry weather but pretty cold conditions at the surface and overnight frost and freezing fog could become a big problem for commuters towards the end of next week and may fail to clear by day in places.


GEM this morning shows a progression towards mostly dry and fine weather following the cold weather early in the week with wintry showers. With High pressure just to the West a lot of rather cloudy and benign coditions look likely with temperatures just below average but with some frost at night behind weak cold fronts passing South at times when skies clear.


NAVGEM shows High pressure building across more Northern locations later next week but the South maintains a very cold and blustery ENE flow with rain and sleet at times and snow on the hills. Some frost and freezing fog patches will develop over the cold and less windy North late on in the run.


ECM brings high pressure across from the West midweek snubbing out the Northerly flow and frost and fog in calm conditions look likely for a day or two. Pressure falls to the West and later the South with a chilly SE then NE wind across the South with rain at times later with even a little sleet over the hills while Northern areas stay largely dry and rather cold.


The GFS Ensembles show a short cold snap before conditions slowly recover to very much average conditions for late November. A period of stagnant High pressure seems likely with frost and fog at the surface issues late next week before the mean for the pack suggests the Atlantic cranking up later with rain and strong winds crossing East over the Uk on occasions late in the run.


The Jet Stream shows the flow way North of the UK currently before it turns sharply South early next week. This northern arm then detaches from a weaker Southern arm and continues to blow strongly East at high latitudes later next week suggesting UK High pressure. It does break down later and resets closer to the UK later in the run.


In Summary the Northerly of next week still looks like there is an opprtunity of a day or two when snowfall could be seen by some parts of the UK chiefly in the North and West and over the hills. Thereafter High pressure looks likely to build in from the West or NW with a chilly and raw day or two possible in the South on a ENE flow around midweek. It looks likely the High will migrate East then into Europe and maintain a ridge West or NW over Northern Britain. This sets up a SE flow over the South and with falling pressure down to the SW rain would make progress into these parts with time to give dull and uninspiring late November conditions down here with some rain at times while Northern locations stay largely dry and bright if on the chilly side. most output does suggest High pressure in the Scandinavian region later in the run and this could be the catalyst for more blocking conditions for the UK which could in time result in further cold outbreaks developing as we drift deeper towards Winter official from December 1st. For now though all of the above suggests typical November weather for the UK.


Transcript taken from:-http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 



Good summary but i wouldnt real say its typical november weather as temperatures will be below average with widespread air frost and some snow. Typical in mid January maybe but noy mid November. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


In my lifetime of experience it is typical November weather with the chance of fog and frost and cool grey days plus the chance of sunshine and showers, wintry on hills. I can't think of anything more typical than that for November unless you think it should be very warm or blizzards of snow.


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


I second that speaking as someone who has been on the front line so to speak every year for the past  40+ years out in all weather...


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doctormog
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:24:55 AM
I wouldn't fancy a trip to Greenland at this time point...

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png 
Gusty
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:26:28 AM

Looking at the fax charts i dont really see a downgrade, next week was alway going to be a 2 day cold wintry spell followed by frost and sunshine. That outlook is still the same so no change. Both Tuesday and Wednesday have great potential for surprise falls of wet snow anywhere, after that it looks dry and cold. For mid November that outlook is bloody good. Andy

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Andy. Please read my post carefully. I said 'relative downgrade' 


Yes, it is still potentially wintry for some in the north but further south based on the output presented today the risk of a surprise from a mesoscale event has reduced somewhat.


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Col
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Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:32:07 AM

[quote=doctormog;550436]I wouldn't fancy a trip to Greenland at this time point...

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png[/quote]


 


Those winds aren't real though.


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Matty H
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:35:47 AM
100% definitely is typical November weather. Just because temps dip below average for a few days doesn't make it unusual. Average temps are exactly that - an average of the overall temps. It's obvious that at some stage temps have had to be lower than the average to arrive at that figure 😂

We're off to the Christmas Markets in Bristol one evening next week and I admit it will feel more fitting if it's a cold evening.
Russwirral
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:38:02 AM

100% definitely is typical November weather. Just because temps dip below average for a few days doesn't make it unusual. Average temps are exactly that - an average of the overall temps. It's obvious that at some stage temps have had to be lower than the average to arrive at that figure LOL

We're off to the Christmas Markets in Bristol one evening next week and I admit it will feel more fitting if it's a cold evening.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


Agreed, we enter november with Average daily temps of about 10-12*c we leave Nov with an average daily temp of nearer 7*c


 


Its a transitional month.


doctormog
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:38:54 AM

[quote=doctormog;550436]I wouldn't fancy a trip to Greenland at this time point...

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png[/quote]


 


Those winds aren't real though.

Originally Posted by: Col 



Well it would still be very cold and with a very high wind chill. As for real, you could argue none of the model output is real at that time point. I am familiar with the issues re elevation and SLP over Greenland but it was more of a hypothetical situation i.e. If things came off exactly as shown in that chart then it would be severe conditions. As it is, even allowing for the lesser pressure gradient it would still be rather severe!

Closer to home the medium to long term looks very anticyclonic on the 06z GFS op run
Gooner
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:46:16 AM

temps for the next few days IMBY


9C 8C 4C 3C 4C 4C 4C 4C


A much more seasonal November feel


 


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Gooner
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:49:28 AM


[quote=doctormog;550436]I wouldn't fancy a trip to Greenland at this time point...

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1681.png[/quote]


 


Those winds aren't real though.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 



Well it would still be very cold and with a very high wind chill. As for real, you could argue none of the model output is real at that time point. I am familiar with the issues re elevation and SLP over Greenland but it was more of a hypothetical situation i.e. If things came off exactly as shown in that chart then it would be severe conditions. As it is, even allowing for the lesser pressure gradient it would still be rather severe!

Closer to home the medium to long term looks very anticyclonic on the 06z GFS op run

Originally Posted by: Col 


Agreed, you can only comment on the chart that is shown , the isobars could infact tighten?? But as the chart is, it would be very severe


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Gooner
Saturday, November 16, 2013 10:52:04 AM

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3721.png


Deepest FI December starts on a chilly dry note


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Quantum
Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:23:17 PM

No upgrades 


I can't believe the cold spell dissapeared in the space of a day. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Gooner
Saturday, November 16, 2013 12:36:04 PM


No upgrades 


I can't believe the cold spell dissapeared in the space of a day. 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


temps for the next few days IMBY


9C 8C 4C 3C 4C 4C 4C 4C


A much more seasonal November feel



Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Stormchaser
Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:00:19 PM

A slow beating down of the PV is looking even more likely this morning. It doesn't tend to bow down easily at this time of year, so I'm not surprised to see a bit more residual energy to the NW pushing the higher heights aside, leaving them either to our N and NE or down across the UK. At this stage, the latter looks more likely, but if the cycle repeats in the next few weeks I reckon we'll see less residual energy causing trouble 


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Quantum
Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:04:33 PM



No upgrades 


I can't believe the cold spell dissapeared in the space of a day. 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


temps for the next few days IMBY


9C 8C 4C 3C 4C 4C 4C 4C


A much more seasonal November feel



Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I know, but 2 days ago at 144h we had a compeltely amplified greenland high and NErlies into next weekend. I went to bed with a pretty awesome 18z on my mind. Then came along a rally of terrible 0Zs, okay one anomoly I thought, no problem. We then proceeded to have a day of downgrade, after downgrade; culminating in today where snow actually looks unlikely at all outside of scotland or high ground. I know nothing is ever certain, but at 144h you would expect the overall pattern to be pretty well defined. 


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2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
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