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idj20
06 December 2013 09:33:25



Thankfully here it looks like the surge was less than expected - just 0.8M at Sheerness, which means the defenses will have held. The Kent travel news this morning shows some flooding in the Medway towns and Thanet. The only disruption in Sandwich is from flood defense work! Hopefully the lower-than-expected surge will have been repeated elsewhere but it's hard to find information due to the media coverage of another event at the moment.

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


It does seem like Kent escaped the worst so far. Only fly in the ointment, maybe that the storm drains are now reported as full, so we'll await the second surge high around 1pm today with a little trepidation.


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 


Indeed Iain. We are not out of the woods just yet.


I took a walk along to the Folkestone Harbour at first light. The evidence of the high tide at midnight far far in excess of the previous high tides experienced in my life time..For those living in Folkestone there is evidence that the East Head was breached.


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 



Imagine if it was being accompanied with stormy north east winds, doesn't bear thinking about. Saving grace that the weather was so calm and settled last night, but of course that is of little comfort to those along the East Coast who really have been properly affected.
   Wonder what things will look like when we have the high tide at around mid-day today.

Folkestone Harbour. 
Saint Snow
06 December 2013 09:34:40

Fortunately it appears that it has certainly not been as bad as expected. Places like Yarmouth were preparing for the worst and have escaped with no more than a small handful of properties affected. No less awful for them, of course, but in the grand scheme of things it appears to have been much better than expected.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


 


In North Wales and Mersey Basin, it was much worse than forecast. But the focus all along was on the East Coast...


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Gusty
06 December 2013 09:39:52




Thankfully here it looks like the surge was less than expected - just 0.8M at Sheerness, which means the defenses will have held. The Kent travel news this morning shows some flooding in the Medway towns and Thanet. The only disruption in Sandwich is from flood defense work! Hopefully the lower-than-expected surge will have been repeated elsewhere but it's hard to find information due to the media coverage of another event at the moment.

Originally Posted by: idj20 


It does seem like Kent escaped the worst so far. Only fly in the ointment, maybe that the storm drains are now reported as full, so we'll await the second surge high around 1pm today with a little trepidation.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Indeed Iain. We are not out of the woods just yet.


I took a walk along to the Folkestone Harbour at first light. The evidence of the high tide at midnight far far in excess of the previous high tides experienced in my life time..For those living in Folkestone there is evidence that the East Head was breached.


 


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 



Imagine if it was being accompanied with stormy north east winds, doesn't bear thinking about. Saving grace that the weather was so calm and settled last night, but of course that is of little comfort to those along the East Coast who really have been properly affected.
   Wonder what things will look like when we have the high tide at around mid-day today.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I'm going down there to check it out..might see you there ?

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idj20
06 December 2013 09:42:25





Thankfully here it looks like the surge was less than expected - just 0.8M at Sheerness, which means the defenses will have held. The Kent travel news this morning shows some flooding in the Medway towns and Thanet. The only disruption in Sandwich is from flood defense work! Hopefully the lower-than-expected surge will have been repeated elsewhere but it's hard to find information due to the media coverage of another event at the moment.

Originally Posted by: Gusty 


It does seem like Kent escaped the worst so far. Only fly in the ointment, maybe that the storm drains are now reported as full, so we'll await the second surge high around 1pm today with a little trepidation.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Indeed Iain. We are not out of the woods just yet.


I took a walk along to the Folkestone Harbour at first light. The evidence of the high tide at midnight far far in excess of the previous high tides experienced in my life time..For those living in Folkestone there is evidence that the East Head was breached.


 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 



Imagine if it was being accompanied with stormy north east winds, doesn't bear thinking about. Saving grace that the weather was so calm and settled last night, but of course that is of little comfort to those along the East Coast who really have been properly affected.
   Wonder what things will look like when we have the high tide at around mid-day today.


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 


I'm going down there to check it out..might see you there ?


Originally Posted by: Retron 



Indeed, I may have a mosey down there at mid-day. 😃 With camera to hand, of course.

Folkestone Harbour. 
Matty H
06 December 2013 11:05:55

Fortunately it appears that it has certainly not been as bad as expected. Places like Yarmouth were preparing for the worst and have escaped with no more than a small handful of properties affected. No less awful for them, of course, but in the grand scheme of things it appears to have been much better than expected.

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



In North Wales and Mersey Basin, it was much worse than forecast. But the focus all along was on the East Coast...

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



That's why I said generally speaking.

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Essan
06 December 2013 11:27:46

Round-up of some of the stories from around the country here:

http://weatherearthnews.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/6th-december-todays-news-5th-december.html

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eastcoaster
06 December 2013 11:28:09
Floods defences have generally held up really well, I think if it had been a more direct northerly it would have worse. Seems Lowestoft was just about the worst urban area affected in east anglia. I suppose if you lived on the coast in Hemsby this is a disaster of enormous proportions, but in truth those houses were destined for the sea for some time.

I agree with Saint in regards to the North West, I think though the 53 floods means to this day news sources are waiting for some sort of repeat of them. What we've learnt though is Urban areas are very well protected and this is unlikely.
idj20
06 December 2013 15:00:56

As planned, popped down to the beach where I met up with Gusty and Whitelightning. Anyone living locally can relate to this and at least I got a bit of fresh air down my lungs - and it was good to get my photography mojo back.







 

Folkestone Harbour. 
Jonesy
06 December 2013 15:03:59


As planned, popped down to the beach where I met up with Gusty and Whitelightning. Anyone living locally can relate to this and at least I got a bit of fresh air down my lungs - and it was good to get my photography mojo back.


 


Originally Posted by: idj20 


Did Gusty strip off and get you to record a video forecast of him in the Sea


Nice Pictures Ian


P.S I never had you down as a Whitelightning drinker, that stuff plays mind games...well it did me when I was about 15 LOL

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idj20
06 December 2013 15:24:14



As planned, popped down to the beach where I met up with Gusty and Whitelightning. Anyone living locally can relate to this and at least I got a bit of fresh air down my lungs - and it was good to get my photography mojo back.


 


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


Did Gusty strip off and get you to record a video forecast of him in the Sea


Nice Pictures Ian


P.S I never had you down as a Whitelightning drinker, that stuff plays mind games...well it did me when I was about 15 LOL


Originally Posted by: idj20 



 Actually, I think he was itching to do that!

To give you an idea on scale, this is what it looks like during an ordinary neap-type high tide in the summer . . .

Folkestone Harbour. 
Jive Buddy
06 December 2013 16:16:21

Been 'daaan ta Margit' today, for the second 'surge' around lunchtime today.....nothing to report! Yes the sea was higher than normal, but nothing untoward in the end (mind you, the NE wind was fecking freezing!!!)


The thing that caught my eye though, was that the only section of promenade closed off to pedestrians due to 'flooding risk', was the only section that's had new defences put in place! "What a waste of money" as the old football chant would go

It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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whitelightning
06 December 2013 16:19:14
Great pics Ian, (see I do post from time to time lol) . Was nice to see you and gusty down there for the action. Certainly was a high tide. Shame it wasn't quite up there with last nights but still made for some photos as you have brilliantly taken.
Jive Buddy
06 December 2013 16:24:08

Great pics Ian, (see I do post from time to time lol) . Was nice to see you and gusty down there for the action.

Originally Posted by: whitelightning 


There are warnings of surges in Humber, Thames, German Bite, and Dogging.....


Oh, you mean a different kind of action?

It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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chelseagirl
06 December 2013 16:41:34

I have a static caravan outside Cromer.  The van behind us had its roof ripped off by the wind.  Cromer pier was quite badly damaged, with quite a few of the boards ripped out.  It is listed and has just had a load of work done on it too.  Reports say the bar and theatre floor was damaged too so no end of the pier show for a while.  The beach huts have been damaged (or gone) and the chippy van has disappeared for ever.  I saw some pics earlier on the North Norfolk news site showing cobbles all over the promenade.  Looks a right mess. Where I am the road down to the beach has been washed away.  No reports of any loss of life thankfully, so could have been a lot worse.  The next thing will be falling cliffs on this part of the coast, especially at  Happisburgh, where a lady has a house that she refuses to leave which is 1 metre away from the cliff edge.

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Jive Buddy
06 December 2013 16:54:37

Now that this event is starting to 'ebb' away, I'd like to say thank you to Phil G for starting the ball rolling with his opening post, while many of us were perhaps a bit subsumed by the (then) possibility of snow showers etc.


And thanks also, to all those who posted updates and information as the event unfolded - been a great thread to be involved in!

It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
idj20
06 December 2013 17:29:20


Now that this event is starting to 'ebb' away, I'd like to say thank you to Phil G for starting the ball rolling with his opening post, while many of us were perhaps a bit subsumed by the (then) possibility of snow showers etc.


And thanks also, to all those who posted updates and information as the event unfolded - been a great thread to be involved in!


Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 



And even got a rare group meet up out of it!

Indeed, Whitelightning, you must be the only TWO member who I got to see in person more often than your post count!  

Folkestone Harbour. 
Gusty
06 December 2013 19:46:06

Great photo's Ian. It was really good to meet up with you again (still loving the beard btw). I'm also glad you've got your photographic mojo back..we've all missed it. Fantastic light levels and a surreal looking high tide.



 


Jonesy...I would do anything in front of the camera....but I won't do that. 

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Patrick01
07 December 2013 04:48:31

I came across the below footage of the storm tide at West Kirby on the Wirral and I was very surpised. I remember as a kid going down to watch the bad winter storms pound the coast, but I never remember it quite as bad as below youtube vid. For reference the link below is a random Google image of what the area usually looks like (on the left is the row of the houses from where the vid is shot, in front is the promenade). There's a fairly large 'marine lake' adjoining the promenade and out of shot to the right on this photo is the river estuary which is largely dry at low tide (about 4 miles wide at WK I think). Living abroad now, shame to miss such an interesting  weather event in the area!


 


http://www.wirralwebsite.co.uk/Wirral360/images/West%20Kirby%20marine%20lake%20sitting%20off.JPG


 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGxzujen74


 

mbradshaw
07 December 2013 10:17:35

Wow! Amazing pics IDJ  Thanks for sharing...

Whether Idle
07 December 2013 11:42:20


Now that this event is starting to 'ebb' away, I'd like to say thank you to Phil G for starting the ball rolling with his opening post, while many of us were perhaps a bit subsumed by the (then) possibility of snow showers etc.


And thanks also, to all those who posted updates and information as the event unfolded - been a great thread to be involved in!


Originally Posted by: idj20 



And even got a rare group meet up out of it!

Indeed, Whitelightning, you must be the only TWO member who I got to see in person more often than your post count!  

Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 


Thanks for sharing the photos Iain. I am a frequent summer visitor to Sunny Sands. Amazing to see the eastern harbour arm under the tide. I went to Walmer this morning where I have a boat shed, fearing the worst. Pleased to say that the tide created a new berm atop the beach but the surge would have needed to be another 50. Cms high to create real problems.

WI


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Twister
07 December 2013 11:45:24

Great pics Ian - that's quite something!

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07 December 2013 16:15:39

Does anyone know what the height of the tide was when the high tide + storm surge reached the Thames barrier in the early hours of friday morning?

Phil G
07 December 2013 18:13:05

Now that this event is starting to 'ebb' away, I'd like to say thank you to Phil G for starting the ball rolling with his opening post, while many of us were perhaps a bit subsumed by the (then) possibility of snow showers etc.


And thanks also, to all those who posted updates and information as the event unfolded - been a great thread to be involved in!

Originally Posted by: Jive Buddy 



Thanks, that's very kind of you JB.
I was born on the Island and bearing in mind what happened here 60 years ago, am aware of the combination of high tides coinciding with a storm near Scotland moving East and always look out for.
The first indicator of the combination of high tides is from the Severn Bore timetable which also means high tides here.
Www.severn-bore.co.uk

Then when a stiff northerly is forecast, I see if the two are due to coincide which could lead to problems.
In 2014, we have 3 5 star bores (never seen 3 forecast before), so around that time hopefully we will be under HP when these come in. For those that remember him, Bren would certainly be interested in next year.
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07 December 2013 21:14:39
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07 December 2013 21:21:05

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This photo gives you a good idea of the extent of the flooding in Northern Lincolnshire


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