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Gandalf The White
18 December 2013 09:40:48

As many have mentioned, we're heading into a period of potentially stormy weather.  I hesitate to use the word 'dangerous' but it certainly looks as if there are twin threats from potential flooding and very strong winds in the next week - and possibly beyond.


So, what's coming up?


Today:


A band of strong winds and heavy rain crossing west to east. The period between 6pm and midnight covers the worst period for the wind:


Wind gusts:


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/18-289UK.GIF?18-0


9pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/21-289UK.GIF?18-0


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/24-289UK.GIF?18-0


NW Scotland gets hit in the early hours as the system pulls away


Rain:


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/18-574UK.GIF?18-0


9pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/21-574UK.GIF?18-0


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/24-574UK.GIF?18-0


This mornings NAE 06z shows it well: http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/nae/2013/12/18/basis06/ukuk/prec/13121900_1806.gif


 


A brief respite until Friday - although it remains windy for the north-west


Friday:


The next band of wind and rain moves across, on a more WNW-ESE trajectory. Similar timing, at the moment:


Wind gusts:


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/66-289UK.GIF?18-0


9pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/69-289UK.GIF?18-0


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/72-289UK.GIF?18-0


Not as bad as today's winds for much of the southern half of England, away from the South-West and eastern coastal areas


Rainfall:


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/66-574UK.GIF?18-0


9pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/69-574UK.GIF?18-0


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/72-574UK.GIF?18-0


Not as heavy but the frontal trough stalls and moves back north:


6am Sat: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/78-574UK.GIF?18-0


9am Sat: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/81-574UK.GIF?18-0


Cumulative totals by this point: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/81-777UK.GIF?18-0


 


A small disturbance runs across the north of England and the Borders on Saturday evening bringing heavy rain and the threat of snow as it passes through:


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/90-574UK.GIF?18-0


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/96-574UK.GIF?18-0


 


Monday 23rd:


The next system races in:


Winds still very strong for the NW but not as bad elsewhere - gusts:


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/120-289UK.GIF?18-0


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/126-289UK.GIF?18-0


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/132-289UK.GIF?18-0


Rain:


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/120-574UK.GIF?18-0


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/126-574UK.GIF?18-0


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/132-574UK.GIF?18-0


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/138-574UK.GIF?18-0


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/144-574UK.GIF?18-0


 


Xmas Eve:


Hardly has the Monday storm cleared and the next arrives


Wind gusts:


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/150-289UK.GIF?18-0


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/156-289UK.GIF?18-0


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/162-289UK.GIF?18-0


Gusts over 100mph for a swathe of western and northern Scotland


Heavy rain and snow for some:


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/150-574UK.GIF?18-0


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/156-574UK.GIF?18-0


 


Finally, cumulative rainfall totals by the end of Xmas Day:


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121800/192-777UK.GIF?18-0


 


 


 


 


 


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Jiries
18 December 2013 09:45:30

Shame snow not included for here otherwise it would be extremely brilliant to see snow storms over Xmas period for a change.  I will keep myself busy on something else while this storm wheeze past.  Would be bad for some that their properties get damaged at wrong time in Xmas time. 

mbradshaw
18 December 2013 09:53:35


As many have mentioned, we're heading into a period of potentially stormy weather.  


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 It's already been a very stormy run of weather up here over the past two weeks. By my calculation tonights storm will be storm number 5 with winds over 70mph in the last 2 weeks. 


And as your excellent post points out, very unstable Atlantic driven systems look to be the order for the next week or so...

nsrobins
18 December 2013 09:56:44

Good detail.


And just out of range, the potential system for Boxing Day could be the worst of the lot.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Gandalf The White
18 December 2013 11:08:31



As many have mentioned, we're heading into a period of potentially stormy weather.  


Originally Posted by: mbradshaw 


 It's already been a very stormy run of weather up here over the past two weeks. By my calculation tonights storm will be storm number 5 with winds over 70mph in the last 2 weeks. 


And as your excellent post points out, very unstable Atlantic driven systems look to be the order for the next week or so...


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Roll on Scottish independence....


I should have said "another period" but I wasn't trying to ignore what has been happening for the last week or so, since the Euro High was shoved aside.


I did make a point of including north of the Border in my analysis because I would hate to be accused on NIMBY-ism....



Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


mbradshaw
18 December 2013 11:57:52




As many have mentioned, we're heading into a period of potentially stormy weather.  


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 It's already been a very stormy run of weather up here over the past two weeks. By my calculation tonights storm will be storm number 5 with winds over 70mph in the last 2 weeks. 


And as your excellent post points out, very unstable Atlantic driven systems look to be the order for the next week or so...


Originally Posted by: mbradshaw 


Roll on Scottish independence....


I should have said "another period" but I wasn't trying to ignore what has been happening for the last week or so, since the Euro High was shoved aside.


I did make a point of including north of the Border in my analysis because I would hate to be accused on NIMBY-ism....



Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Gandalf, your reports are always excellent. I was just being tongue in cheek and silly earlier 


Amber gale warning in force for us tonight....


Keep up the great work folks.

Stormchaser
18 December 2013 12:38:51

Nasty Xmas Storm


This is rather familiar...


October 30th 2000 Storm


Great information about the storm (scroll down for charts and discussion).


...which ECM also resembles at almost the same timeframe:


Menacing ECM chart


 


 


The GFS version has 110kph gusts across the far southeast overnight into Boxing Day:


Yikes


...which is about 68mph. To be honest I'm surprised they're that low!


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Keep Calm and Forecast On
18 December 2013 13:12:36


Nasty Xmas Storm


This is rather familiar...


October 30th 2000 Storm


Great information about the storm (scroll down for charts and discussion).


...which ECM also resembles at almost the same timeframe:


Menacing ECM chart


 


 


The GFS version has 110kph gusts across the far southeast overnight into Boxing Day:


Yikes


...which is about 68mph. To be honest I'm surprised they're that low!


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Probably a slight displacement of the jet-streak, or it could be the fact that Boxing Day is still out in FI and lower resolution.

idj20
18 December 2013 15:27:32



Nasty Xmas Storm


This is rather familiar...


October 30th 2000 Storm


Great information about the storm (scroll down for charts and discussion).


...which ECM also resembles at almost the same timeframe:


Menacing ECM chart


 


 


The GFS version has 110kph gusts across the far southeast overnight into Boxing Day:


Yikes


...which is about 68mph. To be honest I'm surprised they're that low!


Originally Posted by: Thermohaline Conveyor 


Probably a slight displacement of the jet-streak, or it could be the fact that Boxing Day is still out in FI and lower resolution.


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 



And with that to mind, hope THAT does get downgraded with further runs.  


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Chunky Pea
18 December 2013 15:38:47

Damage to Kent Station, Cork Ireland in last 30 mins due to a squall.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbxvc_tCIAEBKsz.jpg:large


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


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Saint Snow
18 December 2013 15:43:16


...which ECM also resembles at almost the same timeframe:


Menacing ECM chart


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


 


Look at that frigid air to the west of us out in the Atlantic - the -10 850 reaching a latitude as far south as Spain.


It's jolly frsutrating to say the least! A humungous snow storm for Xmas day would be just the nuts, pity that's not going to happen away from the Scottish mountains..


 



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nsrobins
18 December 2013 15:54:08

250mb jet for Xmas night from the experimental FIM:


http://fim.noaa.gov/FIM/for_web/fim_jet/2013121800/europe/wind_250_f192.png


You can see the problem . . .


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Rob K
18 December 2013 19:31:19

SW Trains tweeting a tree down blocking the line at Hinton Admiral (nr Bournemouth) already. Always seems to get clobbered by falling trees, flooding etc that station!


 


Edit: and another... 


 29m

18:09 London Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom has hit a tree near Bookham. Crew are checking the train now.


 


 


Oh and another


 44m

17:46 Exeter to service has stuck a tree. Staff are checking the train now.


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Jive Buddy
18 December 2013 21:37:17


SW Trains tweeting a tree down blocking the line at Hinton Admiral (nr Bournemouth) already. Always seems to get clobbered by falling trees, flooding etc that station!


 


Edit: and another... 


 29m

18:09 London Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom has hit a tree near Bookham. Crew are checking the train now.


 


 


Oh and another


 44m

17:46 Exeter to service has stuck a tree. Staff are checking the train now.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Sounds like they're on a branch line....


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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mbradshaw
18 December 2013 21:37:40

BBC reporting 2500 homes in Cumbria / Lancashire without power, 900 in Wales and 1000 in NI. Storm damage.

doctormog
18 December 2013 22:34:31
It's getting a bit breezy here too with winds gusting over 60mph now. It sounds a bit wild outside currently.
Gooner
18 December 2013 22:38:02

85mph gusts in Plymouth today


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Banbury
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mbradshaw
18 December 2013 23:18:12

Peak gust 85.2mph a few minutes ago. Second anemometer peak gust 81mph. Stormy.

Gaz
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18 December 2013 23:25:56
Winds quickly calmed down at 7.30 this evening
Gary, Torquay, Devon. 85 Meters / 279 Feet ASL


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mbradshaw
18 December 2013 23:29:47

Pressure is very low, 954.8hPa and falling rapidly  Started at 991hPa at midnight, quite a drop.


Portree lifeboat station recorded 77.8mph 30 minutes ago.

Gandalf The White
19 December 2013 01:03:14

We're still on track for a succession of stormy periods, based on the 18z


The one on Monday looks to be worse than previously shown. Here are the predicted wind gusts:


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/102-289UK.GIF?18-18


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/108-289UK.GIF?18-18


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/114-289UK.GIF?18-18


6pm: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/120-289UK.GIF?18-18


Midnight: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/126-289UK.GIF?18-18


Then as before for northern Scotland


6am Xmas Eve: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/132-289UK.GIF?18-18


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/138-289UK.GIF?18-18


There's also a lot of rain and snow in the system. For example, the Xmas Eve 6am chart shows a lot of snow for Wales and northern England and Scotland:


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/132-574UK.GIF?18-18


 


Then the south gets hit - and to a lesser extent the north - on Boxing Day:


6am: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/180-289UK.GIF?18-18


Noon: http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/186-289UK.GIF?18-18


As the winds swing NW, eastern coastal counties could be hammered:


http://modeles2.meteociel.fr/modeles_gfs/runs/2013121818/192-289UK.GIF?18-18


 


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


mbradshaw
19 December 2013 02:01:05

Jeezo....89.7mph and climbing.....


98.5mph from Portree RNLI lifeboat station.


Shulista, Isle of Skye, Lat: N57:41:20 (57.688757) Lon: W6:19:06 (-6.318203), 40m ASL
Weather readings @ 02:04 on 19-12-2013
======================================================

Relative Pressure: 958.1 hPa & rising slowly

Wind (Now): 29.9 m/s (66.9 mph) Force 11, Violent Storm
Gust (Now): 39.8 m/s (89.0 mph)
Wind (Ave today): 19.3 m/s (43.2 mph)
Gust (Max today): 40.1 m/s (89.7 mph) @ 01:53
Wind Direction: - - °

Temp (Now): 6.1°C
Temp (Avg today): 7.3 °C
Temp (Max today): @ 
Temp (Min today): 6.1 °C @ 02:04
Windchill: -2.0°C
Apparent Temp: -16.3°C
Dew Point: 3.3°C
Relative Humidity: 82%

Rainfall (hour): 0.3 mm
Rainfall (today): 0.3 mm
Rainfall (month): 102.9 mm
Rain Days: 18
mbradshaw
19 December 2013 02:06:51

Ever seen the windpeed show Force 12 Hurricane? Gusts getting on for 100mph now. No power cuts though  Pressure bottomed at a very low 952.9hPa at 00:17.


Shulista, Isle of Skye, Lat: N57:41:20 (57.688757) Lon: W6:19:06 (-6.318203), 40m ASL
Weather readings @ 02:12 on 19-12-2013
======================================================

Relative Pressure: 958.2 hPa & rising

Wind (Now): 33.3 m/s (74.5 mph) Force 12, Hurricane
Gust (Now): 43.2 m/s (96.6 mph)
Wind (Ave today): 23.3 m/s (52.0 mph)
Gust (Max today): 43.2 m/s (96.6 mph) @ 02:12
Wind Direction: SW - 225.0°

Temp (Now): 5.9°C
Temp (Avg today): 7.2 °C
Temp (Max today): @ 
Temp (Min today): 5.8 °C @ 02:11
Windchill: -2.6°C
Apparent Temp: -18.9°C
Dew Point: 3.2°C
Relative Humidity: 83%

Rainfall (hour): 0.3 mm
Rainfall (today): 0.6 mm
Rainfall (month): 103.2 mm
Rain Days: 18
mbradshaw
19 December 2013 02:49:49

This system looks to have peaked. High gust has been 98.9mph at 02:26 which is a very wild storm. Pressure was very low indeed.

ghawes
19 December 2013 08:03:55


This system looks to have peaked. High gust has been 98.9mph at 02:26 which is a very wild storm. Pressure was very low indeed.


Originally Posted by: mbradshaw 


Glad you survived intact, Martyn. Was never more than a very blustery evening over here with gusts in the 60-70mph range.


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East Neuk of Fife



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