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Quantum
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24 January 2014 13:12:36

Someone pinch me.


http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/?zoom=4&rad=0&wxsn=0&svr=0&cams=0&sat=0&riv=0&mm=1&mm.mdl=GFS&mm.type=SURPRE&mm.hour=0&mm.opa=100&mm.clk=0&hur=0&fire=0&tor=0&ndfd=0&pix=0&dir=0&ads=0&tfk=0&fodors=0&ski=0&ls=0&rad2=0


Is this actually what I think it is, and how the hell did they get it!

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
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24 January 2014 13:14:26

To clarify, scroll down to the model data tick box, click on settings and change GFS to ECMWF. And appparantly we have acesses to 180hours of new paramers incluidng snow fall and 2m temp!


 


I really don't get this, I have spent hours on the ECMWF website, and I can only find the basic free parameters that everyone else has acesses too. Places like weatherbell (that charges) and now apparanty wunderground that does it for free get all this?! Where does it come from, and why can't I get the raw data myself. 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Rob K
24 January 2014 13:18:20
Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Quantum
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24 January 2014 13:20:18

Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Retron
24 January 2014 13:36:26


ore to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


The same place that Meteocentre, WXBell, Accuweather do - private  servers from the ECMWF. Pay them enough and you'd get access to it too!


(AFAIK there's no rule that says ECMWF data can't be given away on a website, providing you pay enough to secure the rights to the data that is!)

Leysdown, north Kent
Brian Gaze
24 January 2014 13:42:54


Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I can furnish you with the contact details at ECM if you are interested. They offer a range of products and you can subscribe to all of them or a subset. From the data charts and forecasts can be generated, and provided freely or at a premium. I've explained this to you before so don't know what you're surprised about.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Gooner
24 January 2014 13:45:44

I like that , it is rather good

Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Quantum
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24 January 2014 13:46:50



Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I can furnish you with the contact details at ECM if you are interested. They offer a range of products and you can subscribe to all of them or a subset. From the data charts and forecasts can be generated, and provided freely or at a premium. I've explained this to you before so don't know what you're surprised about.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Well I have a login for ECMWF, but my password doesn't let me acsess additional data for the ECMWF medium range model, I am not 100% sure the terms and conditions would even allow me to view the data sets. What do you mean by subscription? I registed at their website, is there anything else I could do?

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
nickl
24 January 2014 13:49:54




Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I can furnish you with the contact details at ECM if you are interested. They offer a range of products and you can subscribe to all of them or a subset. From the data charts and forecasts can be generated, and provided freely or at a premium. I've explained this to you before so don't know what you're surprised about.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Well I have a login for ECMWF, but my password doesn't let me acsess additional data for the ECMWF medium range model, I am not 100% sure the terms and conditions would even allow me to view the data sets. What do you mean by subscription? I registed at their website, is there anything else I could do?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


how much do you pay them Q ?

Quantum
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24 January 2014 13:53:59





Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: nickl 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


I can furnish you with the contact details at ECM if you are interested. They offer a range of products and you can subscribe to all of them or a subset. From the data charts and forecasts can be generated, and provided freely or at a premium. I've explained this to you before so don't know what you're surprised about.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Well I have a login for ECMWF, but my password doesn't let me acsess additional data for the ECMWF medium range model, I am not 100% sure the terms and conditions would even allow me to view the data sets. What do you mean by subscription? I registed at their website, is there anything else I could do?


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


how much do you pay them Q ?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I don't I just registered at their website. I believe I can get acess to various archive and research data, but to do so would breach TOS because it is for research purposes only so I haven't done so, in any case what I really want is the operational data which my password doesn't work for, and I'm not sure about TOS. 

Twitter: @QuantumOverlord (general), @MedicaneWatch (medicane/TC stuff)
2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
24 January 2014 14:06:36




Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I can furnish you with the contact details at ECM if you are interested. They offer a range of products and you can subscribe to all of them or a subset. From the data charts and forecasts can be generated, and provided freely or at a premium. I've explained this to you before so don't know what you're surprised about.


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Well I have a login for ECMWF, but my password doesn't let me acsess additional data for the ECMWF medium range model, I am not 100% sure the terms and conditions would even allow me to view the data sets. What do you mean by subscription? I registed at their website, is there anything else I could do?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The full hi res suite costs 168,000 EUR per year. However, it's possible to pick and choose variables and regions.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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"I'm not socialist, I know that. I don't believe in sharing my money." - Gary Numan
Rob K
24 January 2014 14:07:42


Looks that way. (Until your second post I was wondering what the heck you were on about!). Someone posted the 180hr ECM snow chart on Netweather.

Originally Posted by: Quantum 


But that was weatherbell and they charge a premium. This is completely free, and none of us knew about it. More to the point where did they get it from! 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


No, I'm not talking about the Weatherbell chart that was posted on NW. The 180hr cnow chart from Wunderground was posted on NW here:


 


http://forum.netweather.tv/topic/79144-model-output-discussion-19th-january-2014-18z-onwards/?p=2905520


 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
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