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26 February 2014 19:18:29

Rinse and repeat ... has anyone noticed the remarkable similarity in the fax charts for 00 UTC Thu 27 Feb and 12 UTC Sun 2 March? http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx


 


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
The Beast from the East
26 February 2014 19:26:54
Second ECM op in a row that builds a big sceuro block. Let's hope it is correct so flood hit communities can finally relax
"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Hungry Tiger
26 February 2014 20:23:21



Don't like the look of this lot at all.


Seems like the end to the wet spell was a bit premature.


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
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South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Gusty
26 February 2014 21:30:21

Second ECM op in a row that builds a big sceuro block. Let's hope it is correct so flood hit communities can finally relax

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It always seems at arms length though Beast and never seems to get any closer. Low pressures and other disturbances continue to upgrade rainfall amounts in the reliable timeframe.


Story of winter 2013/14 really. 


Steve - Folkestone, Kent
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Chiltern Blizzard
26 February 2014 22:23:32


The 228 and 252 charts look unsettled and wet, but not so sure it looks too wet for the 288/324/360 timeframes... more chilly and mainly dry apart from areas exposed to the northerly winds.... then again that's too far off to take too seriously.  


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
nsrobins
27 February 2014 07:45:46

You know the NWP is uninspiring when there's no posts in the MO thread before 7am.

This sadly has happened many times this winter.


The above is my summary of this morning's offerings.



Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
idj20
27 February 2014 07:58:25


You know the NWP is uninspiring when there's no posts in the MO thread before 7am.

This sadly has happened many times this winter.


The above is my summary of this morning's offerings.



Originally Posted by: nsrobins 



Hi Neil. I guess no news is better than reading about more bad news.

A quickie glance at the models does seem to show a general agreement by ECM and GFS regarding high pressure close by to the UK by next weekend - but I just know it'll be that mirage effect as it'll all disappear when we get nearer to it, but it'll still be showing up in the distance.

I've noticed our Gibby haven't posted in a while, perhaps this winter has finally broken him. Hope he's okay, though.


Folkestone Harbour. 
NickR
27 February 2014 08:01:17



You know the NWP is uninspiring when there's no posts in the MO thread before 7am.

This sadly has happened many times this winter.


The above is my summary of this morning's offerings.



Originally Posted by: idj20 



Hi Neil. I guess no news is better than reading about more bad news.

A quickie glance at the models does seem to show a general agreement by ECM and GFS regarding high pressure close by to the UK by next weekend - but I just know it'll be that mirage effect as it'll all disappear when we get nearer to it, but it'll still be showing up in the distance.

I've noticed our Gibby haven't posted in a while, perhaps this winter has finally broken him. Hope he's okay, though.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


From his website:


"Hi folks. For the time being my Model Analysis Report I compile night and morning will be reduced to just a Summary with immediate effect due to family illness. I will return to my normal report in due course and can only apologize for the reduction in my normal coverage."


Nick
Durham
[email protected]
idj20
27 February 2014 08:07:55




You know the NWP is uninspiring when there's no posts in the MO thread before 7am.

This sadly has happened many times this winter.


The above is my summary of this morning's offerings.



Originally Posted by: NickR 



Hi Neil. I guess no news is better than reading about more bad news.

A quickie glance at the models does seem to show a general agreement by ECM and GFS regarding high pressure close by to the UK by next weekend - but I just know it'll be that mirage effect as it'll all disappear when we get nearer to it, but it'll still be showing up in the distance.

I've noticed our Gibby haven't posted in a while, perhaps this winter has finally broken him. Hope he's okay, though.


Originally Posted by: idj20 


From his website:


"Hi folks. For the time being my Model Analysis Report I compile night and morning will be reduced to just a Summary with immediate effect due to family illness. I will return to my normal report in due course and can only apologize for the reduction in my normal coverage."


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 I wish him and his family all the best and hope things will get back to normal for him sooner rather than later.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Gooner
27 February 2014 08:26:57


You know the NWP is uninspiring when there's no posts in the MO thread before 7am.

This sadly has happened many times this winter.


The above is my summary of this morning's offerings.



Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014022700/gfsnh-0-300.png?0


I'm surprised this hasn't been posted


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 February 2014 08:27:57

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Agreement up to the 5th , then where would your money go


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Andy Woodcock
27 February 2014 08:31:39

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png 
Agreement up to the 5th , then where would your money go

Originally Posted by: Gooner 




Lol, for the 13th March the operational has uppers of +7c while the control has them at -7c!

I suspect they will be at a boring and useless 0c when the time comes as they have been most of the winter!

Andy
Andy Woodcock
Penrith
Cumbria

Altitude 535 feet

"Why are the British so worried about climate change? Any change to their climate can only be an improvement" John Daley 2001
The Beast from the East
27 February 2014 09:29:22

After the next 7 days are out of the way, March is looking very nice indeed. A chance to properly dry out and repair all the damage to property and infrastructure caused by this historic winter


 


"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gooner
27 February 2014 09:59:34


After the next 7 days are out of the way, March is looking very nice indeed. A chance to properly dry out and repair all the damage to property and infrastructure caused by this historic winter


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It's always been 7 days away


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gooner
27 February 2014 10:12:18

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn301.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn304.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3017.gif


Not too sure about all this snow chat, local radio talking about a covering, work colleagues thisk we will wake up to 'whiteness'.............I have said dream on ...........gulp!


 


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


LA2B MeridFlowEuro09
27 February 2014 10:43:52
It has been or is expected to score in USA and Canada more greatly Central and North and NE USA through much of Canada Much persistent VeryCold and Frosty Winter 2013/14, the Great Lakes broke the records since 1996 or was it 1994 or 5 it was mentioned and it may reach 88% Great Lakes Ice Cover around about now. Last Night it was for them -14 deg. C in Hoboken New Jersey and it has now risen to a well below average -7 deg. C, note that SW Central California today have plenty of heavy rain right now- that should bring relief to major record breaking drought there had this last 12 months, which followed another slightly less only bit less in the 12 months before current 12 month period.

Lot of heavy rain on the radar over near NE USA a few hundred miles ENE of SE New York that in open a North Atlantic, and in Gulf of Mexico East and Central parts band of heavy tropical rain today like in San Francisco.

The Great lakes Snowfalls quite abundant due to heat of the Sun over Cold Very Cold Ice and Snow covered Great Lakes.

GFS, UKMO and ECMWF to 120hrs and t144 plus T168 show Lots of UK Low Pressure Via The Major a North Atlantic Convergence to Low Pressure that crops and spreads out East SE and then also from SW to NE in the big picture- Cold Airmasses meeting warm mixing to develop heavy rain and Sleet with Heavy snow for Hills in Scotland (Mountains).

Record to break frozen Great Lakes USA to be first time since 1979.http://news.discovery.com/earth/weather-extreme-events/great-lakes-mostly-frozen-nearing-record-coverage-140226.htm 

Huh at 192-216hrs Thursday and Friday next Week after another Wet windy mild then Colder T168! The major GFS vs ECMWF difference 00z runs today are A Ridge of High over UK with Cold persisting and Northflow (ECMWF) vs A Mild Wet West flow very Wet and Mild GFS Thursday Friday - South Dry cloudy wet West and North UK. Which is correct- maybe ECMWF. The GFS wants to take The Jet to our North and NE with mild West and SW flow, vs ECMWF Cold with risk of night frost and North South ridge High Thursday then High East and SE but WSW in West and North by Friday ECMWF...

It's so special- but good there bad here.
Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Rob K
27 February 2014 11:00:06


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn301.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn304.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3017.gif


Not too sure about all this snow chat, local radio talking about a covering, work colleagues thisk we will wake up to 'whiteness'.............I have said dream on ...........gulp!


 


 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


As expected the general "milding out" of the charts continues, with the -5C isotherm now (relatively) a million miles from where it was on the Friday charts 24 hours ago.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Frostbite80
27 February 2014 11:03:58



http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn301.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn304.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn3017.gif


Not too sure about all this snow chat, local radio talking about a covering, work colleagues thisk we will wake up to 'whiteness'.............I have said dream on ...........gulp!


 


 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


As expected the general "milding out" of the charts continues, with the -5C isotherm now (relatively) a million miles from where it was on the Friday charts 24 hours ago.


Originally Posted by: Gooner 

I feel evapourative cooling will pay a part but that is always a tough one to judge with one area getting a nice little dump whilst 5 minutes up the road it is rain or sleet.

Gooner
27 February 2014 13:45:42

http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Looks like temps wil pick before cooling off again


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


JoeShmoe99
27 February 2014 17:31:54

17c in some parts at T+240 on the GFS


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn24017.gif


 


Charmhills
27 February 2014 18:09:46


17c in some parts at T+240 on the GFS


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn24017.gif


 



Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


Spring can be so fickle.


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Gooner
27 February 2014 18:26:53


17c in some parts at T+240 on the GFS


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn24017.gif


 



Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/cfs/runs/2014022706/run1m2/cfsnh-0-1074.png?06


That's as bad as me posting this


EDIT


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/charts/gefs/gefsens850London0.png


Was a tad on the mild sde for that day also


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
27 February 2014 21:23:26



17c in some parts at T+240 on the GFS


 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn24017.gif


 



Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Spring can be so fickle.


Originally Posted by: JoeShmoe99 


We'll believe it when we see it.


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Gooner
27 February 2014 22:45:36

GFS thinks about HP


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014022718/gfsnh-0-216.png?18


Then goes back to the unsettled theme


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014022718/gfsnh-0-336.png?18


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014022718/gfsnh-0-384.png?18


 


 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


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