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SEMerc
03 October 2010 18:51:56




No surprise to see the flat track bullies (don't know what you call them in football) beaten 2 - 0 by Chelsea this evening. I watched the match, and it was clear that even though they had less of the possession, Chelsea were more likely to win. 


future_is_orange wrote:


I too saw the match. Can't say I was especially impressed with either team. Noticable to me at least was the lack of both tempo and pace.


Quite why Arsenal felt the need to always try and go round the back of the Chelsea defence rather than through it is beyond me. Maybe it's because Arsenal, in the absence of Fartgas, don't have enough guile to do so. Wilshere is an excellent player (technique wise) with no pace, while Arseshaven has the pace but occasionally sloppy technique and lapses in concentration.


SEMerc wrote:


Good points above..my tuppence worth is that Arsenal cant compete physically with Chelsea. If they had a bit of agression and leadership they would have won a whole lot more over the last few years.


Brian Gaze wrote:


Apparently, Arsenal are physically the smallest team in the PL, while Chelsea are the biggest. It was certainly obvious today.

POD
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03 October 2010 19:45:35

Roy Hodgson has defended his 35year record, how about this for a record.  Jose, the special one, has not lost at home in 8years, league football I assume, 138 matches.  I suggest RH is still using methods that were succesful 35 years ago, more recently at Fulham which is where he should have stayed.  I'm  not too well versed in tactics but I think RB used zonal marking and RH uses man marking.  Why throw the baby out with the bathwater?  Introduce innovation gradually.


Pat, Crawley Down, West Sussex.
Gooner
03 October 2010 19:56:04

So so predictable Im afraid we will play anyone off the park but score..........nope, not even from half a yard out. WENGER, you need a re think matey. I say bring back the 1-0's, anything to win a trophy.


As for Liverpool, well relegation looms....................................well it will if they dont buck their idea's up , I am sure they will finish in the top 7 or 8, will they keep on to key players???? Not too sure


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SEMerc
04 October 2010 09:58:37

Always nice to read the transfer rumours on a Monday morning as journos put their invented copy online - the latest (and a rather old 'story' at that) being that Man U and Real Madrid are set to battle it out for the services of Gareth Bale. 


Quite how United and Real Madrid can afford to come up with the necessary readies is beyond me. Indeed, how United in particular can be expected to stump up the cash having reportedly had a GBP20m bid knocked back this summer, fills me with a sense of amusement.

Super Cell
04 October 2010 17:18:26

Here's a topic that will probably lead to the usual banter, but I think it deserves an airing.


City fast on the way to being top dogs of Manchester?


As someone said yesterday on TV or radio it's a bit worrying when your best players this season are 35 & 37.


I think City are one striker away from the real deal, perhaps not Chelsea standard, but the ones to finally burst the big three's bubble.


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SEMerc
04 October 2010 17:39:12


Here's a topic that will probably lead to the usual banter, but I think it deserves an airing.


City fast on the way to being top dogs of Manchester?


As someone said yesterday on TV or radio it's a bit worrying when your best players this season are 35 & 37.


I think City are one striker away from the real deal, perhaps not Chelsea standard, but the ones to finally burst the big three's bubble.


Super Cell wrote:


Hmmm now where shall I start.


1- Citeh are top dogs in Mancland by default.


2- They are probably one striker away from the real deal, but maybe two managers.


3- I don't really think there is a top three anymore. I'm assuming you're referring to Arsenal when you mention 'big three'.

Super Cell
04 October 2010 18:11:06

Indeed. I've relegated Liverpool and I don't think that the most passionate fan could argue with that.


Arsenal are there by default, but only by consistency and reputation.


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SEMerc
04 October 2010 18:25:16


Indeed. I've relegated Liverpool and I don't think that the most passionate fan could argue with that.


Arsenal are there by default, but only by consistency and reputation.


Super Cell wrote:


The curious thing in all of this is that despite Chelsea being head and shoulders above everyone else at the moment, it is probably still only the third most supported team in London. Indeed, it could be argued that the old 'big five' (Man U, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs) remains intact, when it comes to support.

Gooner
04 October 2010 18:51:08



Indeed. I've relegated Liverpool and I don't think that the most passionate fan could argue with that.


Arsenal are there by default, but only by consistency and reputation.


SEMerc wrote:


The curious thing in all of this is that despite Chelsea being head and shoulders above everyone else at the moment, it is probably still only the third most supported team in London. Indeed, it could be argued that the old 'big five' (Man U, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs) remains intact, when it comes to support.


Super Cell wrote:


Thats a fair shout, it will take the likes of Man City quite a few years before they can become a member of the Big ???? club.


The interesting thing for me is that Arsenal regularly get 60,000 at home , despite not winning a bloody thing for 5 years....soon to be 6 IMO.


We wont know the answer but will 60,000 turn up to watch Chelsea if thay were to go the same period without a trophy ??


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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Matty H
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04 October 2010 18:58:20
Chelsea are an average sized club, with no outstanding history, catapulted into the big time by Abrmowich's money. As for Man City, I genuinely think they can finish runners-up this season
SEMerc
04 October 2010 19:04:31




Indeed. I've relegated Liverpool and I don't think that the most passionate fan could argue with that.


Arsenal are there by default, but only by consistency and reputation.


Gooner wrote:


The curious thing in all of this is that despite Chelsea being head and shoulders above everyone else at the moment, it is probably still only the third most supported team in London. Indeed, it could be argued that the old 'big five' (Man U, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs) remains intact, when it comes to support.


SEMerc wrote:


Thats a fair shout, it will take the likes of Man City quite a few years before they can become a member of the Big ???? club.


The interesting thing for me is that Arsenal regularly get 60,000 at home , despite not winning a bloody thing for 5 years....soon to be 6 IMO.


We wont know the answer but will 60,000 turn up to watch Chelsea if thay were to go the same period without a trophy ??


Super Cell wrote:


I seriously doubt Chelski could fill a 60000 seater stadium - I'm not even sure what their catchment area is. I know Spurs and Arsenal could. As for Citeh, I would imagine their 'core' support, which has always been pretty sizeable, largely stayed intact during the lean years (whether everyone showed up is another matter) and probably won't go up that much, despite the Arab money.

Gooner
04 October 2010 19:06:31


Here's a topic that will probably lead to the usual banter, but I think it deserves an airing.


City fast on the way to being top dogs of Manchester?


As someone said yesterday on TV or radio it's a bit worrying when your best players this season are 35 & 37.


I think City are one striker away from the real deal, perhaps not Chelsea standard, but the ones to finally burst the big three's bubble.


Super Cell wrote:


Or one away from being a TOP 7 team, without Tevez they will struggle IMO.


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
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SEMerc
04 October 2010 19:10:18

Chelsea are an average sized club, with no outstanding history, catapulted into the big time by Abrmowich's money. As for Man City, I genuinely think they can finish runners-up this season

Matty H wrote:


They could, except I don't think Mancini's up to it. The sooner he stops his nonsense of playing three defensive midfielders the better.

Matty H
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04 October 2010 19:13:32
You say nonsense, but their start to the season speaks for itself. I agree about Tevez, he is their key player IMO. If he picks up a lengthy injury they will be found wanting
Gooner
04 October 2010 19:20:08





Indeed. I've relegated Liverpool and I don't think that the most passionate fan could argue with that.


Arsenal are there by default, but only by consistency and reputation.


SEMerc wrote:


The curious thing in all of this is that despite Chelsea being head and shoulders above everyone else at the moment, it is probably still only the third most supported team in London. Indeed, it could be argued that the old 'big five' (Man U, Liverpool, Everton, Arsenal and Spurs) remains intact, when it comes to support.


Gooner wrote:


Thats a fair shout, it will take the likes of Man City quite a few years before they can become a member of the Big ???? club.


The interesting thing for me is that Arsenal regularly get 60,000 at home , despite not winning a bloody thing for 5 years....soon to be 6 IMO.


We wont know the answer but will 60,000 turn up to watch Chelsea if thay were to go the same period without a trophy ??


SEMerc wrote:


I seriously doubt Chelski could fill a 60000 seater stadium - I'm not even sure what their catchment area is. I know Spurs and Arsenal could. As for Citeh, I would imagine their 'core' support, which has always been pretty sizeable, largely stayed intact during the lean years (whether everyone showed up is another matter) and probably won't go up that much, despite the Arab money.


Super Cell wrote:


Too true, be interesting what happens with Spur's new ground?? Any idea's??


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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SEMerc
04 October 2010 19:22:05

You say nonsense, but their start to the season speaks for itself. I agree about Tevez, he is their key player IMO. If he picks up a lengthy injury they will be found wanting

Matty H wrote:


They tried the three defensive midfielders routine against Spurs at the beginning of the season and got absolutely battered. But for Joe Hart, who had a storming game, it could have been 3 or 4-0. Their goal threat, unsurprisingly, was minimal for much of the game. They won't be able to rely on Joe Hart for all of their away games this season.


Given, so we are told, their talent, they should at least try and make a game of it, rather than playing like they're Stoke or Wolves in disguise.


EDIT: Tevez and Mancini have dust up - reportedly over the latter's negative tactics.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/04/carlos-tevez-roberto-mancini-manchester-city

SEMerc
05 October 2010 10:27:29

Oh dear, Abramovich set to indulge in some willy waggling. I guess he won't be taking his hols in Ireland this year.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/8042534/Roman-Abramovichs-Millhouse-warns-Ireland-of-legal-action-over-Irish-Nationwide-bail-out.html


 

SEMerc
05 October 2010 23:00:33

One for Saint. The love shown for Liverpool is almost palpable. But not quite.


http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=529600

Super Cell
06 October 2010 07:21:14

The Liverpool soap opera continues...an agreement to sell the club, but who exactly is entitled to make the decision?


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9064599.stm


It's worth looking at how the Hicks/Gillett shamples all started...with hope in their heart...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/t...ool/6323037.stm

But the pair are also believed to have guaranteed to invest over £200m in the club, but they refused to discuss figures.

They confirmed they will make funds available, both for team strengthening and the building of the club's new stadium in Stanley Park and denied they had secured the club on borrowed money.


------------------------


Parry added: "This is great for Liverpool, our supporters and the shareholders - it is the beginning of a new era for the club. "They are bringing to the table tremendous and relevant experience, a passion for sport, real resources and a strong commitment to the traditions of Liverpool.

"We know that George and Tom want a long-term relationship with Liverpool and that they also understand the importance of investing in our success both on and off the field.



Doh...


 


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Saint Snow
06 October 2010 08:43:20

You would have thought one of the principle rules of business was to learn from one's mistakes and never repeat them...


Well, here's to years of mid-table mediocritywith the pinnacle of our ambitions being a top-4 place. The only way to compete with Chelsea and Man City is to have a sugar-daddy owner yourself - and this will be increasingly so.


A thoroughly depressing outcome, even if there still may be a twist.



Martin
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JMW
06 October 2010 09:12:57

Liverpool fans Wives are reported to be delighted at the news that the Yanks are not only OUT but are also coming IN. Shiela from Toxteth said, "i'm sick of sleeping on Yanks Out protest sheets, at least Jimmy can keep these for the next one".

SEMerc
06 October 2010 09:49:48


You would have thought one of the principle rules of business was to learn from one's mistakes and never repeat them...


Well, here's to years of mid-table mediocritywith the pinnacle of our ambitions being a top-4 place. The only way to compete with Chelsea and Man City is to have a sugar-daddy owner yourself - and this will be increasingly so.


A thoroughly depressing outcome, even if there still may be a twist.


Saint Snow wrote:


Agreed. Anyway, the Red Sox's finances will now be heading south.


http://news.bostonherald.com/business/general/view/20101006slumping_sox_may_be_tougher_sell_next_year_boys_of_bummer/srvc=home&position=also

llamedos
06 October 2010 18:33:30

PMSL


"Life with the Lions"

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SEMerc
10 October 2010 00:08:25

Should prove interesting to see whether RBS opts to roll over the loan should Statler & Waldorf win in the High Court. If not then it's likely ta ta to the PL. 


http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/football/article-1319226/Liverpool-deal-brink-collapse-US-buyers-walk-away-club-docked-points.html

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