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NickR
22 June 2014 07:19:27



I've felt pretty uncomfortable about this (now surely boring if nothing else) practice in this thread as people refer to the England manager (e.g., the post 2 above this one, from both poster and poster he's responding to). This sums it up for me.


http://limpingchicken.com/2012/05/08/william-mager-roy-hodgson/ 


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You kidding me right.


 


Ok it is childish school yard humour at best probably best demonstrated by Monty Pyhton in the Life of Brian - Wome is your fwiend, wlease Woger' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0cqxJElqA


***** why am I even justifying this. I have a strong North East accent myself that stands out like a sore thumb in Australia. Whenever I say Yella instead of yellow my wife still corrects me lol The girls at work love it though 


 


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Re. Monty Python, I guess you didn't read the article. (Of course, there is also a point when comedic effect gives way to tired and cheap cliché and barbs, to wit: "Woy" in this thread.)


And, no, I'm not kidding. Comparing micky-taking of a regional accent with micky-taking of a speech impediment seems to suggest that maybe you don't quite get what the issue is.


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SydneyonTees
22 June 2014 07:37:29




I've felt pretty uncomfortable about this (now surely boring if nothing else) practice in this thread as people refer to the England manager (e.g., the post 2 above this one, from both poster and poster he's responding to). This sums it up for me.


http://limpingchicken.com/2012/05/08/william-mager-roy-hodgson/ 


[/quote


 


You kidding me right.


 


Ok it is childish school yard humour at best probably best demonstrated by Monty Pyhton in the Life of Brian - Wome is your fwiend, wlease Woger' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik0cqxJElqA


***** why am I even justifying this. I have a strong North East accent myself that stands out like a sore thumb in Australia. Whenever I say Yella instead of yellow my wife still corrects me lol The girls at work love it though 


 


Originally Posted by: NickR 


Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 


Re. Monty Python, I guess you didn't read the article. (Of course, there is also a point when comedic effect gives way to tired and cheap cliché and barbs, to wit: "Woy" in this thread.)


And, no, I'm not kidding. Comparing micky-taking of a regional accent with micky-taking of a speech impediment seems to suggest that maybe you don't quite get what the issue is.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


lol I get it, but perhaps I just don't care as much as you, all credit to you for careing and being the moral compass that usually only fwequents up in arms and has found it ways to the sports area 


 

David M Porter
22 June 2014 08:24:02

I'm a bit surprised by the Germany score last night; thought they'd have enough to beat Ghana after their performance against Portugal early last week. That said, Ghana last night showed just how poor Portugal were against the Germans.


Will be interesting to see how the remaining games in that group pan out.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
David M Porter
22 June 2014 09:10:27





Oh dear.


Uruguay gave England no time on the ball, and England crumbled. So many players looking scared sh*tless when they received the ball. Why are English players so uncomfortable on the ball?


Shocker. But then, I've said all along that Hodgson is an abysmal manager; had first hand experience of him at my club.


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Yep, Capello was foul aswell, loved 4-4-2 but with a defensive mindset to boot, how dull.


Eriksson was certainly better at least he got us to the quarters in 2002 and 2006, best achievements since Italia 90.


 


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


 


and Euro 96


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Well I meant the World Cup lol.... but yeah Terry Venables was an alright manager but not great, but also we had a decent team for Euro 96 which helped.......we had the likes of Gascoigne, Shearer, Ince, Sheringham, McManaman, Adams etc. Probably a much stronger side than we have right now.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Plus David Platt and Stuart Pearce, whom along with Gazza were three of the stalwarts of the Italia 90 team.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
SEMerc
Matty H
22 June 2014 09:39:18

Interesting from 'Arry. I wonder who he's referring to?
http://www.sportal.co.nz/football/world-cup-2014/redknapp-players-tried-to-shirk-england-duty/104e36vfj6lsp1gwrjubzto3s5 

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



Has to be Defoe. He knew he'd only end up letting the team down and embarrassing himself.
David M Porter
22 June 2014 15:24:05

Don't know of this has already been posted or mentioned in this thread, but I came across this from Sven-Goran Eriksson just before the World Cup began:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27847989


He was proved right when he thought that England would struggle at this World Cup, but as for his claim that nobody else was better than England in 2006? Sorry Sven, but 4 other teams were better than your side that year, namely Italy, France, Germany & Portugal who all got through their quater-finals! And his comments about Sepp Blatter at the end about being "great for FIFA" are laughable.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Gooner
22 June 2014 15:45:04

This day 28 years ago we saw the best and worst ever goals scored against England


What a woeful day that was


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Gooner
22 June 2014 15:47:56






Oh dear.


Uruguay gave England no time on the ball, and England crumbled. So many players looking scared sh*tless when they received the ball. Why are English players so uncomfortable on the ball?


Shocker. But then, I've said all along that Hodgson is an abysmal manager; had first hand experience of him at my club.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Yep, Capello was foul aswell, loved 4-4-2 but with a defensive mindset to boot, how dull.


Eriksson was certainly better at least he got us to the quarters in 2002 and 2006, best achievements since Italia 90.


 


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


 


and Euro 96


Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Well I meant the World Cup lol.... but yeah Terry Venables was an alright manager but not great, but also we had a decent team for Euro 96 which helped.......we had the likes of Gascoigne, Shearer, Ince, Sheringham, McManaman, Adams etc. Probably a much stronger side than we have right now.


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Plus David Platt and Stuart Pearce, whom along with Gazza were three of the stalwarts of the Italia 90 team.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


'86 '90 and '96  three chances to win a major comp , missed out on all of them .........................only just


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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David M Porter
22 June 2014 16:07:54


This day 28 years ago we saw the best and worst ever goals scored against England


What a woeful day that was


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I was 6 back in 1986 and have a vague recollection of watching that game at the time. However I've got the full BBC coverage of it on DVD as I mentioned yesterday, and IMHO I reckon that even if the notorious first goal for the Argies hadn't stood, they would probably have beaten England anyway. England did very little in that match in terms of attacking while the score was still at 0-0, apart from Peter Beardsley going round the keeper early in the first half and then hitting the side netting. England only really started to play and put the Argies under any pressure after Maradona's wondergoal for 2-0 and SBR sent John Barnes on. Had Barnes been on much earlier, the final result may have been different, but we'll never know.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
Matty H
22 June 2014 16:33:15

Interesting from 'Arry. I wonder who he's referring to?
http://www.sportal.co.nz/football/world-cup-2014/redknapp-players-tried-to-shirk-england-duty/104e36vfj6lsp1gwrjubzto3s5 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 



Has to be Defoe. He knew he'd only end up letting the team down and embarrassing himself.

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 



Oh, and if anyone wants a solitary example of why I couldn't give a shite about England in football tournaments any more, that piece will do for starters. Tossers
David M Porter
22 June 2014 16:44:56

Interesting from 'Arry. I wonder who he's referring to? http://www.sportal.co.nz/football/world-cup-2014/redknapp-players-tried-to-shirk-england-duty/104e36vfj6lsp1gwrjubzto3s5 

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Has to be Defoe. He knew he'd only end up letting the team down and embarrassing himself.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Oh, and if anyone wants a solitary example of why I couldn't give a shite about England in football tournaments any more, that piece will do for starters. Tossers

Originally Posted by: SEMerc 


Too much money mate, that's the biggest problem.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
howham
22 June 2014 17:02:44






Oh dear.
Uruguay gave England no time on the ball, and England crumbled. So many players looking scared sh*tless when they received the ball. Why are English players so uncomfortable on the ball?
Shocker. But then, I've said all along that Hodgson is an abysmal manager; had first hand experience of him at my club.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yep, Capello was foul aswell, loved 4-4-2 but with a defensive mindset to boot, how dull.
Eriksson was certainly better at least he got us to the quarters in 2002 and 2006, best achievements since Italia 90.

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 



and Euro 96

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Well I meant the World Cup lol.... but yeah Terry Venables was an alright manager but not great, but also we had a decent team for Euro 96 which helped.......we had the likes of Gascoigne, Shearer, Ince, Sheringham, McManaman, Adams etc. Probably a much stronger side than we have right now.

Originally Posted by: JHutch 


Plus David Platt and Stuart Pearce, whom along with Gazza were three of the stalwarts of the Italia 90 team.

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


'86 '90 and '96 three chances to win a major comp , missed out on all of them .........................only just

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 



Actually, I think England had more of a chance in 2002 than 1986. 2002 was an open tournament. A poor German side made it to the final. It was the last World Cup where England beat a big name ((Argentima).
howham
22 June 2014 17:05:05
Looks like Capello's world cup is going identically to 2010 so far. 1-1 draw in first game with a goalkeeping howler, followed by a 0-0 bore draw. Looking for the narrow 1-0 win over Algeria before they are routed by Germany in Round 2!
springsunshine
22 June 2014 17:38:55

Oh dear. Uruguay gave England no time on the ball, and England crumbled. So many players looking scared sh*tless when they received the ball. Why are English players so uncomfortable on the ball? Shocker. But then, I've said all along that Hodgson is an abysmal manager; had first hand experience of him at my club.

Originally Posted by: howham 

Yep, Capello was foul aswell, loved 4-4-2 but with a defensive mindset to boot, how dull. Eriksson was certainly better at least he got us to the quarters in 2002 and 2006, best achievements since Italia 90.

Originally Posted by: Gooner 

and Euro 96

Originally Posted by: David M Porter 

Well I meant the World Cup lol.... but yeah Terry Venables was an alright manager but not great, but also we had a decent team for Euro 96 which helped.......we had the likes of Gascoigne, Shearer, Ince, Sheringham, McManaman, Adams etc. Probably a much stronger side than we have right now.

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 

Plus David Platt and Stuart Pearce, whom along with Gazza were three of the stalwarts of the Italia 90 team.

Originally Posted by: JHutch 

'86 '90 and '96 three chances to win a major comp , missed out on all of them .........................only just

Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 

Actually, I think England had more of a chance in 2002 than 1986. 2002 was an open tournament. A poor German side made it to the final. It was the last World Cup where England beat a big name ((Argentima).

Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


This sums up the vast gulf between us and the top sides in world cups and euro`s. Even that bad german side made it to the


FINAL,a poor England side goes out after 2 group matches,the good/better England sides have not made a final since `66


imo the best England side was the one that went to Mexico in 1970,better than the team that won in `66

Brian Gaze
22 June 2014 17:48:35
Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.
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sriram
22 June 2014 18:26:02
Capello to get the sack by Russia - 1 point from 2 games he must now beat Algeria in their last game who are notoriously difficult to break down and hope other results go their way

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NickR
22 June 2014 18:36:44

Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


On paper they are. I thought they looked awful today. They had fewer goal attempts than England against Uruguay.


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Brian Gaze
22 June 2014 19:21:45


Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: NickR 


On paper they are. I thought they looked awful today. They had fewer goal attempts than England against Uruguay.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


TBH I only saw the last 20 mins of the game. Also I didn't rate England's performance against Italy but I know plenty of pundits far more knowledgeable than me said it was very good.


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Matty H
22 June 2014 19:59:25

Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



Ok, I'll assume you are actually being serious. Were you watching? Dreadful. Tournament dark horses? They are no more a dark horse than Max Clifford.
Ally Pally Snowman
22 June 2014 20:36:17
I think Hodgson is lucky there is no ready made replacement because he got the tactics completely wrong against Uruguay. Uruguay pressed our quick players and we had no answer. Think Roy has been poor both games.
Still gutted we got knocked out so early they could have least got to the last group game. I can't enjoy the rest of the tournament as much now we have been knocked out.
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22 June 2014 20:50:51
Great game nearly finished now. South Korea somehow losing 4-2 to Algeria.
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NickR
22 June 2014 21:18:44



Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


On paper they are. I thought they looked awful today. They had fewer goal attempts than England against Uruguay.


Originally Posted by: NickR 


TBH I only saw the last 20 mins of the game. Also I didn't rate England's performance against Italy but I know plenty of pundits far more knowledgeable than me said it was very good.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


So in other words your post was a complete waste of time, and not based on any actual knowledge or having seen most of the game. And your opinion as to what counts as a good performance is in any case suspect given your view of England/Italy. Glad we got that sorted then. 


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SydneyonTees
22 June 2014 22:39:30

Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 

Ok, I'll assume you are actually being serious. Were you watching? Dreadful. Tournament dark horses? They are no more a dark horse than Max Clifford.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Young team full of talent and potential. But like I said before the world cup, not a team / country that is tournament tough. Up againt the likes of Germany, Netherlands, Argentian or Brazil they will fall down. but on their day could potentially give them a good game.


Perhaps Belgium are a bit like England used to be - expectations, potential but probably won't deliver on the big stage. They will probably go out on penalties at some stage.


Could be one to watch at Euro 2016 if Belgium improve further, they certainly have the players to do well in that one.

Matty H
22 June 2014 22:47:17

Belgium look a cut above England. They actually look like a good young team.

Originally Posted by: SydneyonTees 

Ok, I'll assume you are actually being serious. Were you watching? Dreadful. Tournament dark horses? They are no more a dark horse than Max Clifford.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Young team full of talent and potential. But like I said before the world cup, not a team / country that is tournament tough. Up againt the likes of Germany, Netherlands, Argentian or Brazil they will fall down. but on their day could potentially give them a good game.
Perhaps Belgium are a bit like England used to be - expectations, potential but probably won't deliver on the big stage. They will probably go out on penalties at some stage.
Could be one to watch at Euro 2016 if Belgium improve further, they certainly have the players to do well in that one.

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



From what I've seen of them so far they will go out to any of the teams they could face in the next round.

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