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ARTzeman
09 July 2014 07:22:50

Thank you Martin .Output looks good. Sunday may have a blip lightning on Radstock weather according to Metoffice.






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nsrobins
09 July 2014 07:41:46
But Jonathan p*****l in the Daily Smell says it's going to be hot next week.
The general flow will be west or northwest with surface temps just above normal maybe

Just saying!
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Gavin P
09 July 2014 08:55:29

I do think there's hint's of a plume for late next week Thu-Fri, though rapid low pressure development within the humid flow will probably shove the core of the heat off to the east in the end.


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Charmhills
09 July 2014 09:04:27


I do think there's hint's of a plume for late next week Thu-Fri, though rapid low pressure development within the humid flow will probably shove the core of the heat off to the east in the end.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


ECM is hot/humid and thundery in FI.


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Arcus
09 July 2014 09:15:48

But Jonathan p*****l in the Daily Smell says it's going to be hot next week. The general flow will be west or northwest with surface temps just above normal maybe Just saying!

Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Yes the "easterly plume" never gets as well established or as far in recent runs as previously posited by the models Neil.


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JOHN NI
09 July 2014 10:31:37



I do think there's hint's of a plume for late next week Thu-Fri, though rapid low pressure development within the humid flow will probably shove the core of the heat off to the east in the end.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


ECM is hot/humid and thundery in FI.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


True though the 00Z EC operational appears to be a fairly extreme outlier with this solution. That said there does have been a move today towards a greater chance of a plume or two next week - bringing the risk of a brief hot spell to the south and east around next Wednesday / Thursday. Be interesting to see if this more 'southerly' output is maintained during the next few days.


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vince
09 July 2014 10:53:29



I do think there's hint's of a plume for late next week Thu-Fri, though rapid low pressure development within the humid flow will probably shove the core of the heat off to the east in the end.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


ECM is hot/humid and thundery in FI.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 


 


LOL. ECM has been hot and thundery since April and im still waiting , #uselessmodel.gov

vince
09 July 2014 10:55:34


But Jonathan p*****l in the Daily Smell says it's going to be hot next week. The general flow will be west or northwest with surface temps just above normal maybe Just saying!

Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Yes the "easterly plume" never gets as well established or as far in recent runs as previously posited by the models Neil.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


 


Blimey echo's of Winter in that posting 


-10 and +10 on the 850's are getting quite rare in actually ocurring it appears

Polar Low
09 July 2014 11:38:57

I would say quite a good chance of a plume in the next 7.10 days myself both in fairly good agreement on ridge pushing into n/e with energy setting to our n/w


http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/ECMWF_0z/hgtcomp.html


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/ecmwf.php?ech=192&mode=0&map=3&type=0&archive=0


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16 uppers clipping s/e later on


 


 





I do think there's hint's of a plume for late next week Thu-Fri, though rapid low pressure development within the humid flow will probably shove the core of the heat off to the east in the end.


Originally Posted by: JOHN NI 


ECM is hot/humid and thundery in FI.


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


True though the 00Z EC operational appears to be a fairly extreme outlier with this solution. That said there does have been a move today towards a greater chance of a plume or two next week - bringing the risk of a brief hot spell to the south and east around next Wednesday / Thursday. Be interesting to see if this more 'southerly' output is maintained during the next few days.


Originally Posted by: Gavin P 

Medlock Vale Weather
09 July 2014 14:20:39

Big temperature contrast tomorrow between east and west with rain east of the Pennines. Put the light jacket in the boot if you are travelling across the Pennines!


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014070906/nmmuk-0-31-0.png?09-13


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Saint Snow
09 July 2014 15:14:09


Big temperature contrast tomorrow between east and west with rain east of the Pennines.


Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


 


That's what I like to see!


 




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Medlock Vale Weather
09 July 2014 18:24:30



Big temperature contrast tomorrow between east and west with rain east of the Pennines.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


That's what I like to see!


 



Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Still looks that way tonight some areas struggling to get any higher than 11C, the latest WRF update still showing cool temps and rain for the likes of East/North Yorkshire, with members like Four on the North York Moors having a cool miserable day. Some of this rain straddling the SE of England too.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014070912/nmmuk-0-26-0.png?09-19


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014070912/nmmuk-1-24-0.png?09-19


Alan in Medlock Valley - Oldham's frost hollow. 103 metres above sea level.
What is a frost hollow? http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/reports/wxfacts/Frost-hollow.htm 
Polar Low
09 July 2014 18:55:23

 


And very windy for some eastern parts gusting a gale since this afteroon in Chelmsford  


 http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/royaume-uni/vent-rafales/6h.htm




Big temperature contrast tomorrow between east and west with rain east of the Pennines.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


That's what I like to see!


 



Originally Posted by: Medlock Vale Weather 


Still looks that way tonight some areas struggling to get any higher than 11C, the latest WRF update still showing cool temps and rain for the likes of East/North Yorkshire, with members like Four on the North York Moors having a cool miserable day. Some of this rain straddling the SE of England too.


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014070912/nmmuk-0-26-0.png?09-19


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/wrfnmm/runs/2014070912/nmmuk-1-24-0.png?09-19


Bagfish
09 July 2014 20:06:11

In Cumbria the excellent summer which began in mid May continues, it's rarely been very warm but most days have had at least 5 hours of sun and with light winds it feels very pleasant outside. For the most part with have missed the showers as well. At Seathwaite (wettest place in England) last month just 30mm of rain fell which is 15% of the average. So the outlook for more of the same suits me fine with little sign of a proper zonal set up which is the kiss of death to summer this far north. Several times this summer the weather has threatened to revert to a zonal set up but it never happens, last weekend was supposed to be much more unsettled but it was dry and fairly warm. At the moment it's 20c and sunny and time for a glass of wine on the patio......perfect. Andy

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 

The difference 350 miles makes 😃 What you describe there sounds utter pants for summer relative to our respected locations. An average of just 5 hours of sunshine a day, and thats good? Wow... are summers really that bad in Cumbria?

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


 


Cumbria resident here answering YES, summers usually really are "that bad" up here.  The only really decent summer I can remember where it was pretty much wall-to-wall sunshine from May until September was 1995.  2003, 2006 and last year had around a month of decent weather, but yes usually it's just warm rather than hot and we're lucky to get 5 hours sunshine.


However, the amazing landscape, lakes for swimming in and friendly people make it worthwhile living up here


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Charmhills
09 July 2014 20:14:52

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1682.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1922.gif


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.gif


A plumy looking ECM 12z before low pressure moves in later fi.


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GIBBY
10 July 2014 07:14:57

HERE IS MY LATEST ANALYSIS FROM THE OUTPUTS OF THE WEATHER COMPUTER PREDICTION MODELS FOR TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY THURSDAY JULY 10TH 2014.


THE CURRENT GENERAL SITUATION. A slack Northerly flow lies across the UK today with a trough over Eastern Britain slow moving and one in the far West moving slowly East as it weakens.


MODELS 2 WEEK HEADLINE  A lot of dry and bright weather with scattered showers at times. Remaing quite warm.


GFS The GFS operational today shows Low pressure to the North relaxing it's grip from many Southern areas next week with this weekend's thundery showers gradually giving way to warm and sunny weather for a time across the South next week before a Low pressure slips NE late next week with a thundery breakdown again. A fresher Westerly flow is then shiwn for the remainder of the run with rain at times in the North and a lot of dry weather in the South. The Ensembles are supportive of this theme but with a more pronounced wet and windy spell at the start of week 2 before a large High develops over the UK late in the run with attendant dry and warm weather for all should it evolve.


UKMO UKMO this morning closes it's run with a light and warm SW flow between Low pressure near Iceland and High to the SE. Many parts would become dry under this pattern with some sunny spells and it could become very warm in the South and East while the North and West continue to lie under the risk of scattered showers at times.


GEM The GEM operational today also supports the theme of pressure rising from the SW next week with the weekend showers giving way to warm and sunny conditions as the ridge crosses the UK. Towards the end of next week it moves away NE with a thundery Low moving up from the SW bringing the risk of more pronounced showers and heavy rain for a time in humid air before the end of the run supports a return to Atlantic West winds with well scattered showers again to end the period.


NAVGEM NAVGEM shows pressure building steadily from the SW next week with fine and very warm and sometimes humid air wafting across the South in particular after a showery start to the week. The North and West could continue to be more prone to cloudier spells with a few showers at times but a lot of dry and bright weather here too.


ECM The ECM operational this morning also shows a rise of pressure across the South through the middle of next week but with more muted and temporary effect. As a result the dry and fine weather over the South midweek when it could well stay warm and humid will break down into rain or thundery showers at times later as low pressure feeds back in from the SW and West.


MY THOUGHTS  All in all despite the complex pattern of synoptics of late and again over the next few weeks the weather overall is not bad for many across the UK as a result and I see no reason why this overall pleasant Summer weather shouldn't continue. In fact through this morning's output is a well supported theme for the South and East of Britain in particular having a good chance of becoming very warm and sunny at least for a time next week as presure builds from the SW. Most models also suggest this to be temporary as a thundery breakdown looks possible later in the period introducing a return to slightly fresher Atlantic winds and showers again towards the end of the period. However having documented all these features all parts should end up with a lot of very pleasant and useable weather for outdoor events and activities over the period covered by the output this morning and despite the risk of local and very occasional heavy rainfall the vast majority of the time will stay largely decent especially across the South and East.


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Cumbrian Snowman
10 July 2014 09:09:31


In Cumbria the excellent summer which began in mid May continues, it's rarely been very warm but most days have had at least 5 hours of sun and with light winds it feels very pleasant outside. For the most part with have missed the showers as well. At Seathwaite (wettest place in England) last month just 30mm of rain fell which is 15% of the average. So the outlook for more of the same suits me fine with little sign of a proper zonal set up which is the kiss of death to summer this far north. Several times this summer the weather has threatened to revert to a zonal set up but it never happens, last weekend was supposed to be much more unsettled but it was dry and fairly warm. At the moment it's 20c and sunny and time for a glass of wine on the patio......perfect. Andy

Originally Posted by: Bagfish 

The difference 350 miles makes 😃 What you describe there sounds utter pants for summer relative to our respected locations. An average of just 5 hours of sunshine a day, and thats good? Wow... are summers really that bad in Cumbria?

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


Cumbria resident here answering YES, summers usually really are "that bad" up here.  The only really decent summer I can remember where it was pretty much wall-to-wall sunshine from May until September was 1995.  2003, 2006 and last year had around a month of decent weather, but yes usually it's just warm rather than hot and we're lucky to get 5 hours sunshine.


However, the amazing landscape, lakes for swimming in and friendly people make it worthwhile living up here


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


 


Another Cumbrian Resident here -  been great so far. never to warm Max 22.23c at best which suits me and nice and fresh at night


Sunshine this month is averaging at 6.5hrs per day, last month 141hrs or 93% or normal  that 4.7hrs on average per day


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10 July 2014 11:58:01


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Climate is warming up, Scotland and N Ireland and North England still often gets some Winter frost, ice and snow, November to March, but the SE and South UK including S Central England and Wales, together with the West and North through the year, they sometimes get more rain than London and S SE England, where some longer dry fine spells without much heavy rain is seen every year.

The North Atlantic Sea often gets some much Colder Wintry conditions from November to March Months, and Mild SW and South winds tend to be more frequent over the East and SE of North Atlantic Sea, as the Azores High tends to stay in charge. 

With this warmth and heat, the Central and South UK has become mostly free of snow and frost.
Gavin P
10 July 2014 12:58:14

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


Thundery Plumes + JMA Thursday:


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Looks like we're in for more pleasent summer weather.


 


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Hungry Tiger
10 July 2014 13:08:57

Just hope that today and tomorrow is a blip in an otherwise what seems to be an OK summer.


Today delivered what was shown on the BBC the other night - Rain from the East and today resembles one of the worst days of the summer of 2012.


Lets hope there aren't too many more of these.


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Bow Echo
10 July 2014 14:05:41
Well. to my eye that looks like one heck of a jet blowing at 250mb over southern Italy.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/250hPa/orthographic=-10.22,29.51,512 
Steve D. FRMetS
Burton Latimer, Kettering, Northants


Bow Echo
10 July 2014 14:08:16

 


Just hope that today and tomorrow is a blip in an otherwise what seems to be an OK summer.


Today delivered what was shown on the BBC the other night - Rain from the East and today resembles one of the worst days of the summer of 2012.


Lets hope there aren't too many more of these.



 


And yet just 30 odd miles from Cambridge here in Wellinborough its not a half bad day at all.


Steve D. FRMetS
Burton Latimer, Kettering, Northants


picturesareme
10 July 2014 15:05:37


In Cumbria the excellent summer which began in mid May continues, it's rarely been very warm but most days have had at least 5 hours of sun and with light winds it feels very pleasant outside. For the most part with have missed the showers as well. At Seathwaite (wettest place in England) last month just 30mm of rain fell which is 15% of the average. So the outlook for more of the same suits me fine with little sign of a proper zonal set up which is the kiss of death to summer this far north. Several times this summer the weather has threatened to revert to a zonal set up but it never happens, last weekend was supposed to be much more unsettled but it was dry and fairly warm. At the moment it's 20c and sunny and time for a glass of wine on the patio......perfect. Andy

Originally Posted by: Cumbrian Snowman 

The difference 350 miles makes 😃 What you describe there sounds utter pants for summer relative to our respected locations. An average of just 5 hours of sunshine a day, and thats good? Wow... are summers really that bad in Cumbria?

Originally Posted by: Bagfish 



Cumbria resident here answering YES, summers usually really are "that bad" up here. The only really decent summer I can remember where it was pretty much wall-to-wall sunshine from May until September was 1995. 2003, 2006 and last year had around a month of decent weather, but yes usually it's just warm rather than hot and we're lucky to get 5 hours sunshine.
However, the amazing landscape, lakes for swimming in and friendly people make it worthwhile living up here UserPostedImage

Originally Posted by: picturesareme 



Another Cumbrian Resident here - been great so far. never to warm Max 22.23c at best which suits me and nice and fresh at night
Sunshine this month is averaging at 6.5hrs per day, last month 141hrs or 93% or normal that 4.7hrs on average per day

Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 



I don't even think the summers of 08 & 12 where that cool or dull down here 😃

I suppose as you say, the amazing landscapes, fresh air, and I presume winter snows? Make up for lousy summers.
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10 July 2014 16:18:36



In Cumbria the excellent summer which began in mid May continues, it's rarely been very warm but most days have had at least 5 hours of sun and with light winds it feels very pleasant outside. For the most part with have missed the showers as well. At Seathwaite (wettest place in England) last month just 30mm of rain fell which is 15% of the average. So the outlook for more of the same suits me fine with little sign of a proper zonal set up which is the kiss of death to summer this far north. Several times this summer the weather has threatened to revert to a zonal set up but it never happens, last weekend was supposed to be much more unsettled but it was dry and fairly warm. At the moment it's 20c and sunny and time for a glass of wine on the patio......perfect. Andy

Originally Posted by: Cumbrian Snowman 

The difference 350 miles makes 😃 What you describe there sounds utter pants for summer relative to our respected locations. An average of just 5 hours of sunshine a day, and thats good? Wow... are summers really that bad in Cumbria?

Originally Posted by: Bagfish 


 


Cumbria resident here answering YES, summers usually really are "that bad" up here.  The only really decent summer I can remember where it was pretty much wall-to-wall sunshine from May until September was 1995.  2003, 2006 and last year had around a month of decent weather, but yes usually it's just warm rather than hot and we're lucky to get 5 hours sunshine.


However, the amazing landscape, lakes for swimming in and friendly people make it worthwhile living up here


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


 


Another Cumbrian Resident here -  been great so far. never to warm Max 22.23c at best which suits me and nice and fresh at night


Sunshine this month is averaging at 6.5hrs per day, last month 141hrs or 93% or normal  that 4.7hrs on average per day


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


And another from a probably far sunnier part of the county.  First half of this summer has been great, indeed I'm struggling to think of a better one off hand.  Lot's of pleasantly warm sunny days and no sticky horrible excessive heat.  Long may it continue!

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