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GIBBY
20 September 2014 08:15:53

Good morning folks. How are the models shaping up this morning. You can find out how I see things here.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
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Crepuscular Ray
20 September 2014 08:21:04
Thanks Gibby.Looks like we are replacing our 7 days of gloom with wet and windy westerlies up here!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
doctormog
20 September 2014 08:35:12

Thanks Gibby.Looks like we are replacing our 7 days of gloom with wet and windy westerlies up here!

Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 



I actually think it will be a marked improvement for out locations. Bright and breezy with some showers is probably more accurate than wet and windy? The air mass may actually be cooler but in reality here at least it will feel warmer and much more pleasant. The cold front has cleared the air here and it is already brighter than in has been in days.

The outlook seems to be predominantly southwesterly, more akin to the climatic norm and to be honest here in the NE I welcome it.
ghawes
20 September 2014 09:45:16
Yes, I'm with Michael, it will be better than the week gone by - we've had less than one hour of sunshine and temps stuck at 14-15c all week. Some traditional westerly fare is welcome!
Graeme
East Neuk of Fife



Crepuscular Ray
20 September 2014 11:59:44
Yes guys you are probably right. It will feel better for us eastcoasters!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Matty H
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20 September 2014 12:56:24
Summer continues for here. Hopefully it'll last til Spring.
doctormog
20 September 2014 14:37:14

Summer continues for here. Hopefully it'll last til Spring.

Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Or better still next summer? 


bledur
20 September 2014 17:19:10


The ridge looks ever more resilliant across southern areas next week. At this rate it will be fine and dry down here for the most part and perhaps turning warm again later in the week, depending on the orientation of the jet stream and how much clear sky there is.


 


A displacement of the Azores High into Europe is then the most widely supported outcome for next weekend onward, though ECM doesn't produce the trough digging south to achieve that on its 12z op run so there's cause for uncertainty as usual 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 

I would wait a couple more days before trying to forecast the end of next week. Two days ago there was good model agreement for a more general breakdown thursday 25th onwards. At present they have flipped to a more settled pattern apart from the far north. Today the GEM model is going for more unsettled again. I would not be surprised to see that more general breakdown shown more widely come monday. Who Knows?

Gooner
20 September 2014 17:25:53


Summer continues for here. Hopefully it'll last til Spring.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Or better still next summer? 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


Probably be a repeat of 2010 and miss Autumn and jump straight to Winter


Oh well


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Stormchaser
20 September 2014 19:50:53

http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/archives/2014092012/UW96-21.GIF


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/archives/2014092012/gfs-0-96.png


 


Quite some disparity between UKMO and GFS even at just 4 days range! It apepars to be due to GFS having a flatter jet which drives energy east all the way to the trough over Scandinavia by that day. UKMO doesn't model that, and nor does ECM. GEM sits at halfway house on that one but JMA sides with GFS.


 


That's a bit of an issue to have at such short range, as it determines to what extent HP influences the UK days 5-8. GFS brings LP closest to the NE of the UK on day 6, with JMA having a trough similarly placed but weaker with more of the trough development occuring in the mid-Atlantic instead.


GEM develops a SW-NE jet orientation similar to UKMO, but neither can compare with this extraordinary setup from ECM:


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm1442.gif


...though it has to be said that UKMO is very close:


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/archives/2014092012/UW144-21.GIF


The ridge shown across the UK is truly vast, particularly in the case of the ECM run, which also manages to keep the ridge weak enough to resemble a massive region of nothing much at all synoptically. The chart almost seems to be beyond what I would have thought possible!


Interestingly enough, GEM isn't that far away from UKMO and ECM despite having a flatter jet at day 4:


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gem/archives/2014092012/gem-0-144.png


 


This suggests a strong chance of seeing the SW-NE jet evolve soon enough to keep the storms well NW of the UK. Trouble is, JMA sticks close to GFS right out to day 8, and those two models in combination can't be discounted - so there remains a fair chance of more unsettled conditions influencing the NW at least, with JMA even bringing the middle swathe of the UK into the line of fire at the end of the run.


 


GFS keeps the bulk of England and Wales more or less dry right through to 6th October. Some spots would end up on a run of 37 dry consecutive days (when ignoring dew, mist and fog deposits) if that verified! 


 


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Hungry Tiger
20 September 2014 20:25:13



 


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GIBBY
21 September 2014 07:56:58

Good morning. Anyone who thinks that this week sees the start of Autumn proper across the British Isles may be mistaken. Take a look at my Sunday detailed analysis of the 00z outputs to see why I think this is so.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


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Hungry Tiger
21 September 2014 10:28:48


Good morning. Anyone who thinks that this week sees the start of Autumn proper across the British Isles may be mistaken. Take a look at my Sunday detailed analysis of the 00z outputs to see why I think this is so.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Originally Posted by: GIBBY 


Looks nice to me - that'll do nicely.


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ARTzeman
21 September 2014 11:43:27

Thank you Martin for the dry output.


Good enough to dry the washing..Great colours on the Night cam .. Especialy with the full page...






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Matty H
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21 September 2014 12:03:31
Absolutely stunning outputs. That's one month of autumn done and dusted without any hint of autumn. The longer the better. Hopefully until next April 😁
Hungry Tiger
21 September 2014 12:56:38

Absolutely stunning outputs. That's one month of autumn done and dusted without any hint of autumn. The longer the better. Hopefully until next April BigGrin


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



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bruced
21 September 2014 13:03:20

Models seem to be in agreement about a continuation of this summary type weather for the rest of September and maybe into October too.  Unusual to have it so settled and warm for so long, especially in an autumn month.


Is nature redressing the balance after we got that 5 month autumn last year? 


David, Northallerton.


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21 September 2014 15:55:46
New thread on the way.

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