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Larry Seinfeld
25 September 2014 10:45:13

Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease, ...

Happy with the ecm and the gfs ens too, I think this is how early autumn should be there's plenty of time for other types of weather in their proper season. Septembers weeks should be mellow. :)


Gavin P
25 September 2014 12:14:10

Hi all,


Here's today's video update:


High Pressure Holds Sway Into October


http://www.gavsweathervids.com


Not much sign of a change in the next 7-10.


Rural West Northants 120m asl
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Stormchaser
25 September 2014 13:21:23

Just catching up on events after being outdoors all morning. I wasn't expecting to see the exceptionally warm scenario return, but there it is on the ECM 00z op run and with a fair hint of it on the GFS and GEM 00z op runs too!


GFS has also returned to producing incredibly dry 16-day periods, with the 06z effort pretty much devoid of any precipitation whatsoever surprised


 


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Jim_AFCB
25 September 2014 18:33:18

One disappointing aspect of the recent HP dominated spell is the almost complete lack of enhanced radio conditions for radio hobbyists such as myself. Last year was excellent with VHF FM signals received from as far away as Czech Rep and Austria. Hopefully conditions will pick up this weekend.


We have our "own" model to try and predict when we might get enhanced conditions (i.e. changes in refractive index in the atmosphere) and they have not been too accurate of late with conditions predicted, then downgraded nearer the time. Sounds familiar?!


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Whether Idle
25 September 2014 18:52:07

Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease, ...

Happy with the ecm and the gfs ens too, I think this is how early autumn should be there's plenty of time for other types of weather in their proper season. Septembers weeks should be mellow. :)

Originally Posted by: Larry Seinfeld 


Post of the year! Fantastic stuff -poetry in the M O thread :-)

Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Stormchaser
25 September 2014 22:32:25

 http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014092512/UW120-21.GIF?25-20


http://www.meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2014092512/UW144-21.GIF?25-20


 


A small low near the Azores allows a stronger HP to build on the UKMO run compared to the other efforts this evening.


Those day 5 and 6 charts are stunning - hopefully UKMO's onto something there, though I wouldn't mind ECM's solution with a HP cell over NE Europe fighting back against an active Atlantic flow that throws a lot of warm tropical maritime air into the mix - we would be in with a chance of breaking the cloud up as drier continental air mixed in from the east.


GFS has stuck with building a textbook Scandi High. The flow aligns well for (low-20's) warmth all the way out to day 12, not bad going really cool


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The Beast from the East
25 September 2014 22:56:21

The most boring period I think I can remember in the internet era. We deserve a brutal winter to make up for this


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Bow Echo
26 September 2014 06:36:28


Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease, ...

Happy with the ecm and the gfs ens too, I think this is how early autumn should be there's plenty of time for other types of weather in their proper season. Septembers weeks should be mellow. :)


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Post of the year! Fantastic stuff -poetry in the M O thread :-)

Originally Posted by: Larry Seinfeld 


From John Keats' poem, To Autumn, 1820


Of course if one is going to quote one should give the reference to credit the author!


Steve D. FRMetS
Burton Latimer, Kettering, Northants


Ally Pally Snowman
26 September 2014 07:27:17
26 September 2014 07:47:48

Cold easterly on the way well nearly.

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2162.html

Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 

">http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Recm2402.html


There does seem to be a massive difference between the 850 temperatures on the GFS and ECM runs this morning. Both have a huge area of high pressure over western Russia at T240 but the 850's on the ECM are much colder than the GFS. The high is further south on the GFS run but not massively so.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn2402.gif


The evolution of the two runs before T240 is fairly similar with a low over western Russia a few days before the high moves in. This low allows a strong northerly blast to bring in cold air. But the temperatures by T240 on the two models are completely different. So I would take that ECM chart with a large pinch of salt.


The operational GFS is something of a warm outlier this morning from 4 October but even so the GEFS for St Petersburg are in good agreement that after a dip at the end of September the first 10 days of October are likely to be very mild.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_St.Petersburg_ens.png

GIBBY
26 September 2014 07:57:41

Good morning folks. Some rather interesting GFS Ensemble thoughts are the highlight of this morning's 00z output. My analysis can be read here.


http://www.norton-radstockweather.co.uk/NEW-Model-Analysis(2859336).htm


Martin G
Kilmersdon Radstock Bath Somerset



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Osprey
26 September 2014 09:02:02


The most boring period I think I can remember in the internet era. We deserve a brutal winter to make up for this


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


You got that arse backwards!  And the current weather is great! Not boring. better year the TS's. Hope it carries on till next summer.


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Maunder Minimum
26 September 2014 09:11:02



The most boring period I think I can remember in the internet era. We deserve a brutal winter to make up for this


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


You got that arse backwards!  And the current weather is great! Not boring. better year the TS's. Hope it carries on till next summer.


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I agree - the current run of weather is phenomenal and interesting in its own right, because of the lack of wind and rain.


It must be one of the driest Septembers on record overall.


However, like Beast I want a brutal winter, but not to make up for the present period, but to atone for the rubbish 2013-14 so called winter!


New world order coming.
nsrobins
26 September 2014 09:16:15

Just thinking about clearing the cobwebs and flexing my metatarsals in preparation for the oncoming silly season.


From trends there does seem to be a signal for height rises across Greenland linking to N Scandinavia late week 2 which could easily herald an early taste of winter chill for parts mid-October.


Beyond that try reading tealeaves as after last year's debacle I've given-up on long-term shenanigans.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Stormchaser
26 September 2014 10:12:12

A pool of -5 to -7*C uppers edges westward across Scandinavia on the ECM 12z op run days 8-10... is it having a trial run for those infamous winter teasers? yelltongue-out


 


It arises due to the jet digging down on the eastern flank of the blocking high to our NE. Just the sort of thing ECM tends to get carried away with, hence the aforementioned teasers in winter.


GFS keeps a flatter flow over there, keeping the cold air from spilling down and allowing the block to orientate such as to keep a flow of warm air to our shores - but an often unstable one as Atlantic low pressure moves close to our shores.


UKMO has once again produced more of a mid-Atlantic trough in the jet days 5-6, which means the HP to the east strengthens rather than giving way to a new ridge from the west. It's basically a way of sustaining the warmth from the weekend and potentially building on it further.


 


I should make clear that when I say 'warmth' I'm talking about the diurnal means (day + night temps combined) and how they relate to the long term average. That could mean something like 8-10*C by night and 22-24*C by day, or 14-15*C by night and 16-19*C by day, or somewhere in between... it all depends on cloud amounts.


 


So long as the blocking persists, there is the potential for it to either keep us high and dry for another fortnight, or place us at the mercy of stalled weather fronts and bucket-loads of rain, should the blocking position a bit too far east to keep the storms away.


Unless the jet weakens, allowing for occasional sliding lows crossing the UK, there isn't much room for something in between.


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Osprey
26 September 2014 11:10:20

We haven't had a drought for a while


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The Beast from the East
26 September 2014 11:22:07


Beyond that try reading tealeaves


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


You mean the Express?


Well, this year is finally going to be the year when they get it right


 


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Larry Seinfeld
26 September 2014 13:47:47



Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease, ...

Happy with the ecm and the gfs ens too, I think this is how early autumn should be there's plenty of time for other types of weather in their proper season. Septembers weeks should be mellow. :)


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


Post of the year! Fantastic stuff -poetry in the M O thread :-)

Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


From John Keats' poem, To Autumn, 1820


Of course if one is going to quote one should give the reference to credit the author!


Originally Posted by: Larry Seinfeld 


 


I normally like to pretend that they're my own works. It gives me a smug feeling.


 


Still looking warm for a while yet with gfs dragging in some high uppers. Not sure how settled it will be though especially the further west you are.


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
26 September 2014 15:51:39




The most boring period I think I can remember in the internet era. We deserve a brutal winter to make up for this


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


You got that arse backwards!  And the current weather is great! Not boring. better year the TS's. Hope it carries on till next summer.


Originally Posted by: Osprey 


I agree - the current run of weather is phenomenal and interesting in its own right, because of the lack of wind and rain.


It must be one of the driest Septembers on record overall.


However, like Beast I want a brutal winter, but not to make up for the present period, but to atone for the rubbish 2013-14 so called winter!


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


The local gamekeeper can't wait for rain a nd cold winds to start, to drive all his pheasants back from the fields where they are happily foraging, down to his feeders so he can gather them up in one place, the better to have them shot


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
Stormchaser
26 September 2014 16:42:18

Lower-res on the GFS 12z op run (from +192 hours onward) seems to fail to resolve the trough in the jet west of Iberia - it just vanishes, resulting in a vague, unrealistic mess.


I'm thinking runs like the 00z and 06z GFS op runs, which developed low pressure west of Iberia, are more likely to be near to the mark - with a strong ridge off the East U.S. Coast throwing cold air down into the central North-Atlantic in a week's time, instability and storm development around the Azores seems a likely consequence.


 


Given the time of year, I reckon one of the most likely ways out of this sort of pattern is a flattening of the jet stream path across the U.S. and into the Atlantic, followed by marked trough development over the Eastern U.S. or thereabouts, building a ridge in the central North Atlantic.


If and when we'll see that is anybody's guess.


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Osprey
26 September 2014 16:43:13
http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014092612/gfs-0-162.png?12in  around 6/7 days time! Bring it on! 🙂
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bledur
26 September 2014 17:44:46
I like a bit of stuffed pheasant , not so keen on the stuffed gamekeeper Laugh

Whether Idle
26 September 2014 18:15:37




Season of mists and mellow fruitfulness,
Close bosom-friend of the maturing sun;
Conspiring with him how to load and bless
With fruit the vines that round the thatch-eves run;
To bend with apples the moss'd cottage-trees,
And fill all fruit with ripeness to the core;
To swell the gourd, and plump the hazel shells
With a sweet kernel; to set budding more,
And still more, later flowers for the bees,
Until they think warm days will never cease, ...

Happy with the ecm and the gfs ens too, I think this is how early autumn should be there's plenty of time for other types of weather in their proper season. Septembers weeks should be mellow. :)


Originally Posted by: Larry Seinfeld 


Post of the year! Fantastic stuff -poetry in the M O thread :-)

Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


From John Keats' poem, To Autumn, 1820


Of course if one is going to quote one should give the reference to credit the author!


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


I normally like to pretend that they're my own works. It gives me a smug feeling.


 


Still looking warm for a while yet with gfs dragging in some high uppers. Not sure how settled it will be though especially the further west you are.


Originally Posted by: Larry Seinfeld 


Just for the record Larry I'm very familiar with the works of John Keats.


A personal favourite of mine is "The Moon is up" by Alfred Noyes.   A different vibe but fantastic nonetheless.


As for the models - 2014 the year of the eternal summer continues.  Truly fascinating for weather fans.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Osprey
26 September 2014 18:32:29


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2014092612/gfs-0-162.png?12in  around 6/7 days time! Bring it on! :)

Originally Posted by: bledur 

I like a bit of stuffed pheasant , not so keen on the stuffed gamekeeper Laugh



I've never eaten Pheasent! Might do that before I pop my clogs! SM:ANGEL


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Whether Idle
26 September 2014 18:54:58

The models are looking very September-October 1985...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.

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