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Rob K
14 January 2015 16:28:08

It's just one LP after another! Point taken about uppers but if only it were a few degrees colder for us southerners though http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rpgfs1711.gif


 



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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Maunder Minimum
14 January 2015 16:28:38


Think a lot of people are going to like this! 



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I am happier, since I am directly in the dark splodge on that one, but I think Saint would prefer Quantum's earlier snow chart.


New world order coming.
Whiteout
14 January 2015 16:29:20

If GFS 12z came off the country would be at a standstill on Tue & Wed smile


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kmoorman
14 January 2015 16:29:25


Think a lot of people are going to like this! 



Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


 


A lot will - and many won't.  


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Charmhills
14 January 2015 16:31:43

The new GFS 12z seems to be a snowfest and cold throughout bar warm sectors getting a little close for comfort but the cold wins out!


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
Whiteout
14 January 2015 16:32:41


If GFS 12z came off the country would be at a standstill on Tue & Wed smile


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


Edit - make that Thursday as well.


What a way for the new GFS to go solo smile While I take your point Rob, even if it did start as rain the 3rd slider would turn back to snow as it slides south.


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Whiteout
14 January 2015 16:33:43


The new GFS 12z seems to be a snowfest and cold throughout bar warm sectors getting a little close for comfort but the cold wins out!


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


As we said earlier Duane, the best snowfalls come from these marginal situations.


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Whiteout
14 January 2015 16:36:20

 


BTW UKMO isn't too shabby wink


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Maunder Minimum
14 January 2015 16:37:53


The new GFS 12z seems to be a snowfest and cold throughout bar warm sectors getting a little close for comfort but the cold wins out!


Originally Posted by: Charmhills 


Unbelievable run for snow next week in much of central England, if it is to be believed.


New world order coming.
warrenb
14 January 2015 16:38:45
UK 144 is just a ridiculous chart.
nsrobins
14 January 2015 16:39:31

Well low #3, which has come from a fairly cold source, manages to deepen as it exits the South Coast. Depending on track and the fact that uppers are in the -5 to -7 range, in virtual space at least I'd say that has a snow fall on it.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Rob K
14 January 2015 16:39:41


 


BTW UKMO isn't too shabby wink


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


http://meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2015011412/UW144-21.GIF?14-17


 


's alright. 


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Gavin P
14 January 2015 16:42:17

Maxima of -3c next Friday over deep snow cover;


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rpgfs21617.gif


 


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Quantum
14 January 2015 16:42:23

Why couldn't they keep the old GFS too. It had some advantages, it ran sooner and had 500hpa anomoly charts. 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Charmhills
14 January 2015 16:43:43

The Met/o 12z is a beauty and of which looks to be sliding!


Loughborough, EM.

Knowledge is power, ignorance is weakness.

Duane.
kmoorman
14 January 2015 16:45:05


 


http://meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2015011412/UW144-21.GIF?14-17


 


's alright. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Is there anywhere we can see the 850hpa temps for that low?   Is it a cold core low, or will it have a warm sector?


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nsrobins
14 January 2015 16:45:13


 


http://meteociel.fr/ukmo/runs/2015011412/UW144-21.GIF?14-17


 


's alright. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I wouldn't kick it out of bed, Rob
Get the cold in, and let mother nature do the rest. The UKMO is bringing the next trough in on a NW/SE axis and is bound to tickle the tastebuds of snow fans pretty much nationwide I would think.


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Whiteout
14 January 2015 16:46:33


 


I wouldn't kick it out of bed, Rob
Get the cold in, and let mother nature do the rest. The UKMO is bringing the next trough in on a NW/SE axis and is bound to tickle the tastebuds of snow fans pretty much nationwide I would think.


Originally Posted by: nsrobins 


Are you back on the cold train Neil ?wink


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David M Porter
14 January 2015 16:47:52


 


BTW UKMO isn't too shabby wink


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


Lovely jubbly is how I'd put it!


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Rob K
14 January 2015 16:48:10


 


Is there anywhere we can see the 850hpa temps for that low?   Is it a cold core low, or will it have a warm sector?


Originally Posted by: kmoorman 


Looking at the thicknesses it looks pretty cold to me. Looking at London we have 500mb height 516dam with SLP 994mb so that is about 521dam 1000-500mb thickness, approximately.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Chiltern Blizzard
14 January 2015 16:48:18


 


No, surprisingly it was Jan 2013

Unsurprisingly, one of the few parts that are green is the Vale of Evesham, along with the South Coast ...



http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-nasa-satellite-image-1563255


 


Originally Posted by: Essan 


 


I hadn't realised so much of the UK was affected by January 2013 snow.... Perhaps that was more a reflection of some of  disappointment in here from those unaffected.  I remember the small island of green near or in  Manchester that (understandably) had RustyRoo (I think) in dispair to such an extent he has never been on here since!  Also, I hadn't realised that it wasn't snowy so close to me (the benefit of the Chilterns' altitude compared to surrounding areas)


Rendlesham, Suffolk 20m asl
Tractor Boy
14 January 2015 16:48:24

Can someone point to an analogue year/month with similar synoptics to those forecast for next week. Its not really a classic easterly, or a northerly. More a slow and flabby low complex in cold air.


Dave
Farndale, North York Moors
nsrobins
14 January 2015 16:49:44


 


Are you back on the cold train Neil ?wink


Originally Posted by: Whiteout 


If The Daily Star says it will snow then I'm on board


Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
Stormchaser, Member TORRO
Brian Gaze
14 January 2015 16:50:00

The new GFS has 3 hour timesteps between 180 and 240 hours. These are now accessible on the TWO chart viewer:


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx


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Quantum
14 January 2015 16:52:02


The new GFS has 3 hour timesteps between 180 and 240 hours. These are now accessible on the TWO chart viewer:


http://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/datmdlout.aspx


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Interestingly enough it seems that the low res >240hr is nearly as good as the old high res. 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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