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Quantum
26 June 2015 21:20:10

Interesting that netweather considers the -25 850 line more likely to hit the UK (in winter) than the +20 (in summer). Goes to show just how warm it is


GEFS Ensembles Chart


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Quantum
26 June 2015 21:23:55

ECM 2m parameter highest yet on this 12Z run with the UK managing to get into the 32-36C band by Friday.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Matty H
26 June 2015 21:41:56

Small early changes in the 18z will have implications down the line that aren't good. 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


 


Edit: sorry, for a split second there I thought it was winter on TWO 


Stormchaser
26 June 2015 21:50:42
You raised my heart rate for a moment there Matty!

Interesting how the 12z op runs removed a ridge to the SW Fri-Sat in favour of a col. Shows what jet amplification can lead do - under the col the heat could really build.

Not considering it nailed on yet though.


Here in Menorca, temps are on the rise, into the 30's, but its via a southerly from Africa so a very dry heat - not too troublesome with a decent sea breeze on the south coast :)

Amazing to think what this is he start of for Europe. The potential impacts are severe.
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Keep Calm and Forecast On
26 June 2015 22:12:57
GFS 18z on it's way out now and looks very similar to the 12z up to t+120 so far...
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Zubzero
26 June 2015 22:17:22

GFS 18z on it's way out now and looks very similar to the 12z up to t+120 so far...

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


 


Or the start of pushing the plume further east 


 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2015062618/gfs-0-144.png?18

Matty H
26 June 2015 22:18:01

18z is absolute bobbins compared to the 12z. I wonder where this will sit in the ens. Don't look if you're faint hearted lol


Matty H
26 June 2015 22:25:01

Actually this is as dreadful as the 12z was amazing 


Nighttime mins by Friday 6am halved from the earlier 12z figures in the 20s lol!!


Matty H
26 June 2015 22:30:09

Urghhh and it gets worse. I'm not even going to look at the rest of it. 


Will have a quick squint at the ens later and then see what the morning brings, but this is a cooler. Literally. 


LeedsLad123
26 June 2015 22:34:08

Yes, quite a contrast - 8C uppers are already encroaching on Saturday whereas on the 12z 15-16c uppers were still over most of the UK. Temps reach 30-32C on Thursday and that's it - although high 20s on the other days.

Hopefully tomorrow morning is better - and hopefully this isn't a new trend. Certainly reveals how things are far from nailed on just yet - and would be our typical bad luck if everything went wrong now.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
picturesareme
26 June 2015 22:35:07

Usually i look forward to Stormchaser's analysis but i cant help feeling he should go back to enjoying his holiday... just in case, don't want this heatwave to be jinxed. 

26 June 2015 22:39:50
Yeah it was all going so well. This could quite easily be one of the cooler runs in the ensembles though. Hope the 00z is better.
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Matty H
26 June 2015 22:54:36

Probably not a great time to point out that there is also quite a spread on the ECM ens after midweek as well. 


Matty H
26 June 2015 22:58:21


18z GFS continues the theme of a more blink and you'll miss it hot spell. Crap in my opinion, but then my hot spell standards are still very much entrenched in 2003. 


More runs required, but I'm sensing a watering down and shunting eastward, as alluded to this morning. 


Edit: I'm not writing anything off. Just commenting on individual runs. 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


I posted this after last night's rather crap 18z. Let's hope this is similar...


Zubzero
26 June 2015 23:01:53
SEMerc
26 June 2015 23:06:05


Navgem will scare away the gfs night terrors 


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/navgem/runs/2015062618/navgem-8-144.png?27-00 


Originally Posted by: Zubzero 


Yep, that works; 40C in the UK, 24C in Cyprus.


One of the more lunatic charts, even by NAVGEM's standards.

Matty H
27 June 2015 00:01:21

Oh dear. The 18z ens continue the downgrade. Urghhhhhh 


Sevendust
27 June 2015 01:55:04


Oh dear. The 18z ens continue the downgrade. Urghhhhhh 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 


The 18z is called the pub run for a reason. This place has suddenly become like a winter thread

Whether Idle
27 June 2015 04:26:46


Oh dear. The 18z ens continue the downgrade. Urghhhhhh 


Originally Posted by: Matty H 



 


Yes.  Quite a change from the "high water mark of the 12z" with reduction of the depth and duration of the hot spell.  As we all know, with potential extreme weather events its important to wait until shortly before the "the train arrives" before getting too cock-sure about things.


Things could change back this morning.  Or get cooler and wetter...


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
moomin75
27 June 2015 04:39:34
Massive backtracking on the 0z too. Oh dear oh dear.
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Polar Low
27 June 2015 05:36:22

very nice gfs mean



as is gm opp        More runs needed await ecm



as is you know who



 


 

Whether Idle
27 June 2015 05:36:36

Massive backtracking on the 0z too. Oh dear oh dear.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Hmm, a bit sweeping there I think Moomin:


The 0z GEM shows much of eastern UK under +15 850s at day 9-10:



East looks best for heat on this morning's developments but best to wait til Sunday's models as we know that the truer picture for 30 June - 05 July will not be clear til then in such a knife edge scenario.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
moomin75
27 June 2015 05:54:30
It's no doubt a big downgrade.
Nobody can deny that. Fell for it again. Winter or summer I never learn. Lol.
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100m ASL
Gusty
27 June 2015 06:14:13

Hot runs again this morning. The 0z GFS suite appears to be more focussed on the peak of the plume more towards the SE this morning peaking late Wednesday with a thundery day on Thursday that would stifle T2M potential.


All in all a very interesting situation evolving.


From a SE Kent perspective GFS still brings in upper air parameters of 575dam, 850Hpa's of 21c and 925Hpa's of 26c at the peak. Incredible really.


NAVGEM still looks dangerous, GEM and UKMO are very hot too. 


GEFS ensembles are starting to show some form of resurgence of heat Friday/Saturday ish too. 


ECM awaited with interest. 


Some silly and dramatic comments from the usual suspects are to be ignored. 


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Polar Low
27 June 2015 06:19:14

just 96 hours away




 


 

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