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SEMerc
01 October 2015 09:35:15


 


And following on from that it's no surprise to see Manure down there with the Chavs, given they all come from the same Surrey/Kent catchment area.

03 October 2015 18:32:08
Chelsea lose again!
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SEMerc
03 October 2015 21:34:18

Chelsea lose again!

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Yep, it's becoming a habit.


Quite laughable, really.

haghir22
04 October 2015 07:26:43
Yes, the best thing about Liverpools shite start to the season is......Chelsea.
YNWA
04 October 2015 14:26:04
Very scrappy Merseyside Derby. Both sides average. Atkinson the wrong ref for such an occasion.
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04 October 2015 15:21:26
Meanwhile Man Utd are getting hilariously battered by Arsenal. 3-0 after 20 mins!
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SEMerc
04 October 2015 15:53:29

Fantastic goal from Kane. Shame it was the wrong friggin end.

Gooner
04 October 2015 16:50:47

Excellent win for Arsenal


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future_is_orange
04 October 2015 16:53:33


Excellent win for Arsenal


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


Yes a stunning first half display by Arsenal...Don't think Man U were particularly poor just that Arsenal were brilliant. Rooney has to dropped has been v poor all season

Gooner
04 October 2015 16:58:08


 


 


Yes a stunning first half display by Arsenal...Don't think Man U were particularly poor just that Arsenal were brilliant. Rooney has to dropped has been v poor all season


Originally Posted by: future_is_orange 


I agree, I think even the spanish sides would have struggled against Arsenal in the first 20 minutes, everything went right , all the flicks fell into place.


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colin46
04 October 2015 17:09:30
4th place after 8 games!!!!! i'll take that.
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04 October 2015 17:43:35
Rodgers has been sacked!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34423344 

Great news for 'Pool.
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Brian Gaze
04 October 2015 18:07:21

Rodgers has been sacked!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34423344

Great news for 'Pool.

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Off to Sunderland?


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SEMerc
04 October 2015 18:46:27


 


Off to Sunderland?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Chumpiontulipis about his level. So presumably Sunderland make a temporary appointment now - pending that club's relegation at the end of the season.


Brenton then comes back after a sojourn to take the reins at the Stadium of Dark.

SEMerc
04 October 2015 18:52:18

RAWK at its Stalinist best with a locked thread.


http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=323218.0


P.S. Brenton's sacking is actually bad news for the rest of the league because the Dippers may end up with someone half decent like Klopp.

04 October 2015 19:02:49

A few sources supposedly ITK are reporting Klopp as the likely choice.


Bad day for Man Utd fans, losing to Arsenal then finding out Rodgers has gone. Redcafe in a bit of a meltdown this evening, not helped with the Klopp speculation, with many wanting him to eventually succeed LVG 


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SEMerc
04 October 2015 19:05:50


A few sources supposedly ITK are reporting Klopp as the likely choice.


Bad day for Man Utd fans, losing to Arsenal then finding out Rodgers has gone. Redcafe in a bit of a meltdown this evening, not helped with the Klopp speculation, with many wanting him to eventually succeed LVG 


Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


It's a panic move because they've calculated Maureen may be sacked by the Russian crook and Klopp may go there instead.

04 October 2015 19:45:25
It'd be nice to hear our resident Liverpool fans' thoughts on Brendan's sacking, and who they want to come in?
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Gooner
04 October 2015 21:04:41

Sacked over the phone apparently


Stylish


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David M Porter
04 October 2015 21:15:03

Rodgers has been sacked!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34423344

Great news for 'Pool.

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


Who'd want to be a PL manager these days, eh?


I reckon that once Arsene Wenger's time at the Gunners has come to an end, we'll probably never again see a managerial reign at a PL club last even a quarter as long as his and that of SAF at Man Utd. Poisoned chalice if ever there was one.


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Zubzero
04 October 2015 22:16:48


 


Who'd want to be a PL manager these days, eh?


I reckon that once Arsene Wenger's time at the Gunners has come to an end, we'll probably never again see a managerial reign at a PL club last even a quarter as long as his and that of SAF at Man Utd. Poisoned chalice if ever there was one.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


Yeah poor guy only get's 5 mill a year how will he cope

Saint Snow
04 October 2015 22:55:22

It'd be nice to hear our resident Liverpool fans' thoughts on Brendan's sacking, and who they want to come in?

Originally Posted by: WanderingLonelyAsACumulonimbusIncus 


 


Been coming for a while. I've wanted so much for him to do well, but I was convinced he didn't have what it takes for the few weeks now. Problems as I see it:


Chief amongst my issues is that he's chopped & changed playing style over & over. He came in extolling the virtues of possession football - 'death by football' it was dubbed. He struggled to get us playing that way in his first season, reverting to a more standard play that saw us climb the table. In the next season, he tinkered around before being forced to play Dracula & Studge up front; it worked almost from the off and he stuck with it. The emergence of both Coutinho & Sterling meant our attack was breathtaking - but our defence was shambolic at times. He then struggled last season, with chaotic switching of play to no effect until stumbling on the 3-5-2 formation that saw us go on a run. We got taken apart by the arses, with Wenger outthinking him embarrassingly - and the 3-5-2 was dropped completely. This season saw a continuation of him being all over the place, scrabbling round for a successful formation. Unsuccessfully.


Then there are the signings. Nobody knows just how much the rightly-maligned transfer committee makes the decisions, and it's true that some signings were clearly not his. But even when he's apparently had full say, the players he's brought in have been mostly poor. He put his foot down over signing Lovren (on the back of half of a good season) for instance... abject failure for us. It's also believed he was equally vociferous about Benteke - a player the world & his dog could see was so not the type of player who'd dovetail with the way Rodgers was seeming to be setting up to play. Or was he going to rip up the blueprint & start again, again?


Finally, there's the freezing out of certain players. It's actually - IMO - indicative of which players are his picks, which are the TC's. Because the players shunted out into the cold tend to be the ones rumoured to be TC signings. They get few chances, if any, often in the wrong position, before being dropped - frequently without doing anything apparently wrong.  Meanwhile, the players reported to be his own signings seem to get chance after chance, despite making mistakes, but he perseveres with them (Lovren being the most obvious case in point). I was particularly p*ssed off over Ilori. He was one of the brightest defensive prospects when we signed him, experienced for his age, and Rodgers himself labelled him the future. He goes out on loan, picks up a couple of injuries so doesn't play that much, then Rodgers ships him out on loan to Villa. Not so bad if it was to gain PL experience - but we bloody give them a buy-out clause, and all pundits agree he's as good as gone. Yet he keeps Lovren??? Not to mention Skrtel, who is almost as crap. So, doesn't sort the CB pairing at all, shutting out players who couldn't do any worse. Is it because he doesn't want TC signings to be a success...?


The most enormous thing now is that FSG bring in someone proven & top quality. Fans fear FSG will go for Rodgers 2.0, an up & coming manager who talks a great game but is unproven. The bigger fear is that they go for a flavour-of-the-month type, a Gary Monk or Eddie Howe.


My only choice (and my knowledge of European managers is admittedly very narrow) would undoubtedly be Klopp. But would he come here? I'm not sure; not that I don't think he'd relish the challenge, nor that we couldn't afford him, but because of the behind-the-scenes set-up at Liverpool. The TC should follow Rodgers out the door.


 


 


 



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SEMerc
05 October 2015 10:03:54


 


 


Been coming for a while. I've wanted so much for him to do well, but I was convinced he didn't have what it takes for the few weeks now. Problems as I see it:


Chief amongst my issues is that he's chopped & changed playing style over & over. He came in extolling the virtues of possession football - 'death by football' it was dubbed. He struggled to get us playing that way in his first season, reverting to a more standard play that saw us climb the table. In the next season, he tinkered around before being forced to play Dracula & Studge up front; it worked almost from the off and he stuck with it. The emergence of both Coutinho & Sterling meant our attack was breathtaking - but our defence was shambolic at times. He then struggled last season, with chaotic switching of play to no effect until stumbling on the 3-5-2 formation that saw us go on a run. We got taken apart by the arses, with Wenger outthinking him embarrassingly - and the 3-5-2 was dropped completely. This season saw a continuation of him being all over the place, scrabbling round for a successful formation. Unsuccessfully.


Then there are the signings. Nobody knows just how much the rightly-maligned transfer committee makes the decisions, and it's true that some signings were clearly not his. But even when he's apparently had full say, the players he's brought in have been mostly poor. He put his foot down over signing Lovren (on the back of half of a good season) for instance... abject failure for us. It's also believed he was equally vociferous about Benteke - a player the world & his dog could see was so not the type of player who'd dovetail with the way Rodgers was seeming to be setting up to play. Or was he going to rip up the blueprint & start again, again?


Finally, there's the freezing out of certain players. It's actually - IMO - indicative of which players are his picks, which are the TC's. Because the players shunted out into the cold tend to be the ones rumoured to be TC signings. They get few chances, if any, often in the wrong position, before being dropped - frequently without doing anything apparently wrong.  Meanwhile, the players reported to be his own signings seem to get chance after chance, despite making mistakes, but he perseveres with them (Lovren being the most obvious case in point). I was particularly p*ssed off over Ilori. He was one of the brightest defensive prospects when we signed him, experienced for his age, and Rodgers himself labelled him the future. He goes out on loan, picks up a couple of injuries so doesn't play that much, then Rodgers ships him out on loan to Villa. Not so bad if it was to gain PL experience - but we bloody give them a buy-out clause, and all pundits agree he's as good as gone. Yet he keeps Lovren??? Not to mention Skrtel, who is almost as crap. So, doesn't sort the CB pairing at all, shutting out players who couldn't do any worse. Is it because he doesn't want TC signings to be a success...?


The most enormous thing now is that FSG bring in someone proven & top quality. Fans fear FSG will go for Rodgers 2.0, an up & coming manager who talks a great game but is unproven. The bigger fear is that they go for a flavour-of-the-month type, a Gary Monk or Eddie Howe.


My only choice (and my knowledge of European managers is admittedly very narrow) would undoubtedly be Klopp. But would he come here? I'm not sure; not that I don't think he'd relish the challenge, nor that we couldn't afford him, but because of the behind-the-scenes set-up at Liverpool. The TC should follow Rodgers out the door.


 


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


According to the Beeb at least.


Liverpool XI

Saint Snow
05 October 2015 10:20:07

Thing is, out of that XI, the following are definitely transfer committee signings:


Balotelli


Aspas


Alberto


Markovic


Sakho


Manquillo


 


I'd also dispute the term 'flop'. Sakho has been our best defender; he's young, a French national team CB. Manquillo never put a foot wrong; never spectacular, but dependable. Frozen out by Rodgers to play either Glen 'can't be arsed anymore' Johnson or a right-midfielder out of position - such as Markovic, an attacking RM/RW/CM, who again didn't do much wrong, yet was played out of position then dropped for not being Roberto Carlos.


Funny how Balotelli played much better before & after joining Liverpool. How Aspas has rediscovered his form. How Alberto has been on fire for Deportivo this season.


The TC gets some decisions stupidly wrong - but a fair few of their signings have never had the chance to be a success because Rodgers has never given them a fair chance.


 


 


 



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Saint Snow
05 October 2015 10:21:08

PS - Rodgers was also against the club signing Sturridge. And wanted Ashley Williams instead of Sakho.



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