JFF, as Gooner would say... 

I agree - and at my age I SHOULD hate snow, but I still love it.

Also, my 9 year old daughter is soooooo  keen on some snow.  Where I live it was probably March 13 since we saw snow as well, and model watching can be a very time consuming and painful past-time.

I'm looking forward to the arrival of summer.. well, that is, until the GFS starts showing a prolonged northerly for the start of June. Summer 2016 is over.

Don't worry yet LL- the way they're performing they won't show that until the start of June. It'll be threatening a slack high over the Baltic, 564 thickness and 15 uppers over Leeds at the end of May.

What the fudge does everyone see in the GFS model?

There's people clinging to its every chart in the MO thread like it's a certainty it'll verify! 

It's a sea of pessimism due to previous let-downs in winter I guess.

I know it's not showing what many want to see, including me, but if I had the means to generate my own weather model based on my own interpretations of weather patterns/pressure/teleconnections blah blah, my own model would flip-flop and vary as much as the GFS is at the moment - it's that shite! 

Yet a few dodgy outputs and sure enough we've got the 'winter is over' doom-mongers out in force, who seem to completely ignore ECM/JMA/GEM and UKMO outputs 

A nice bit of positive energy.

I am fascinated by the psychology of the model thread more than the charts it displays!

I think we generally suffer from over supply of information.

It's the model thread so everyone has the right to discuss any chart be it t+12 or t+360. Most charts posted seem to be t+144 or further afield and I think most posters genuinely post them Just For Fun!

BUT, when you read a few pages of the thead say on a good model, view all the FI charts and associated comments, it creates like a virtual mob frenzy, you get excited, you truly believe that it's really going to happen even though it's in the realms of FI.

And then the disappointment kicks in...

Very true!

I used to be in my bedroom letting Ceefax refresh the weather pages and that was that! 

Page 401 for UK weather, 402 for local weather, 403 for further outlook I think 

Those were the days before I found the internet 

Indeed and if you were feeling particularly desperate there was always the premium line weather lines at a pound a minute or so. They were probably based on a wildly inaccurate  GFS ( or MRF/AVN) operational run. And then having to explain what they were  when the phone bill came....

Didn't we all. The 5 day forecasts for holiday destinations were my favourite.

Yes I remember 436 for European forecasts; funny how those numbers stay with you!

All gone. Droop droop. There was Oracle too on ITV but I recall I thought it was rubbish for weather.

Can't see anything coming from this - just a few wintery bits and pieces in coastal areas
Temps are only forecast about 4 to 6 c generally - how can we call this a cold spell - only average temps or slightly below the Jan average

The fact is if you want to see a real a wintery spell you need countrywide temperatures of 0 C or just above freezing - preferably the odd ice day as well

Only this will allow snow to fall and accumulate

I just cannot see a setup at the moment allowing this to happen

Absolutely unreal. Following the foulest week of filth ever recorded it's yet another grim depressing grey sunless Saturday making 6 out of 6 from this season which has completely and utterly redefined the term "write-off".

Totally revolting, soul destroying, hideous and without doubt the most horrible and nasty run of repellant weather I have ever endured. These conditions are just not liveable. Barely seen any sun for over four months apart from when I was in Lanzarote 

But has there not been any snow in Aberdeen?

The UK weather may be bad but there has been some atrocious weather in the Alps too in the last 48 hours. Freezing levels have gone up and the rain has been falling. Here's a live feed from Courchevel 1650:

http://camera.leportetta.com/cgi-bin/guestimage.html

Like here - although I think that may be fog currently 

http://www.cairngormmountain.org/webcams/live/Ptarmigan1.jpg 

Yes it has turned back to snow today but it's a slushy mess. Much of the new snow which fell last week has been compacted down or melted. It's what you hope for in early Dec, not mid Jan.

No snow.  Two hot.  Just rain. Maybe sometime THIS winter.... 

Your lyrical ability is impressive. I don't think I've seen so much alliteration outside of a 'tongue-twister'- and it's true, only poetry can do justice to (and bring a little light to) the drab dull drone of December and dreary drizzle that's following. Get on the current conditions thread Richard and add a little of your verbal veneer to give it some colour!

 Well.... Most winters are grey ..  Except when it is  worth getting the  Snow Risk Chart out. .....