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Maunder Minimum
10 January 2016 09:48:25

could we at least get one feast from the beast out east!!

Originally Posted by: colin46 


I am in Copenhagen at the moment where currently we are in a mild sector - however, temperatures are due to plummet over the next few days, with a daytime max of -10 forecast for Friday and an overnight low of -15. The beast will be here in other words, but will it head due west?


New world order coming.
Gooner
10 January 2016 10:00:20

Modele UKMO - Carte prévisions


Great chart from UKMO it has to be said


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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The Beast from the East
10 January 2016 10:07:42

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-120.png?6


slightly better from GFS.


Longer term, a cold surface high remains the favoured option, so any snow must fall before Friday


 


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nsrobins
10 January 2016 10:10:39
Still a confusing picture with low confidence. One thing I've noticed, when you look at the sequence of GFS 850 ENS from the last three days over-layed you could be fooled into thinking a warming up is very likely, but the date in which the switch occurs is being pushed back every time.
Ppn type and distribution this week - still very hard to forecast.
Neil
Fareham, Hampshire 28m ASL (near estuary)
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Karl Guille
10 January 2016 10:12:46
GFS at T120 is more akin to the UKMO with the orientation of the low and -6 850hPA air more or less over the entire Country and the colder air digging further south than on the 00z. Relatively subtle changes but with possible benefits in the mid term.
St. Sampson
Guernsey
The Beast from the East
10 January 2016 10:13:27

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-138.png?6


critical moment now


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The Beast from the East
10 January 2016 10:15:36

Nope, not happening again on GFS. Couldn't be more different to UKMO with ECM the compromise solution


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Whether Idle
10 January 2016 10:16:00


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-138.png?6


critical moment now


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Its FI in this set up though  Beast, so its of academic interest only as its one possibility of many, whatever happens.


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tallyho_83
10 January 2016 10:20:06
Why not comments? Last one was by Gooner 01:26am this morning?
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Retron
10 January 2016 10:20:42

Here are the 120 ECM stamps for this morning's run. Click for full-size!



Leysdown, north Kent
Karl Guille
10 January 2016 10:23:26
You can't help but think GFS is trying to get it right as the evolution of the run moves a little closer to ECM / UKMO each time. T96 - 120 remains the period to watch with everything FI beyond that!
St. Sampson
Guernsey
The Beast from the East
10 January 2016 10:31:49

http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-192.png?6


Instead of Merkelslug we have a cold surface high and faux cold. An improvement on the 00z


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SJV
10 January 2016 10:34:19


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-192.png?6


Instead of Merkelslug we have a cold surface high and faux cold. An improvement on the 00z


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A lot better than what it was showing for the same date earlier this week 

roger63
10 January 2016 10:34:28


http://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2016011006/gfs-0-192.png?6


Instead of Merkelslug we have a cold surface high and faux cold. An improvement on the 00z


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Opportunity for HP to ridge nE ,but looks as if LP to west will move NE and fill the gap


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=198&mode=0

Nordic Snowman
10 January 2016 10:46:07


 


Opportunity for HP to ridge nE ,but looks as if LP to west will move NE and fill the gap


 


http://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfse_cartes.php?&ech=198&mode=0


Originally Posted by: roger63 


Yes, I think the chances are pretty slim for a Scandi HP.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/MT8_Bergen_ens.png


Bergen seems to be heading for wetter weather in the longer term and despite having no scientific base, I think the odds would favour a return to some sort of unsettled weather (from W to E) across Scandinavia as parts of mid Norway have been extremely dry of late. The weather really does, imho, balance out to some degree and hence why I would fully expect a UK HP to become established next week; a break from the floods!


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Retron
10 January 2016 11:22:59

The extended London ECM ens show that the op was right at the coldest end of the main pack - and there's growing agreement of a return to nearer-normal temperatures by the end. That said, the cold cluster remains in the majority out to day 12 or 13 or so.



Leysdown, north Kent
Gandalf The White
10 January 2016 11:35:02


The extended London ECM ens show that the op was right at the coldest end of the main pack - and there's growing agreement of a return to nearer-normal temperatures by the end. That said, the cold cluster remains in the majority out to day 12 or 13 or so.



Originally Posted by: Retron 


Yes, a similar picture to yesterday's 12z with the cold cluster slowly eroding as we move through w/c 18th.


Interesting that the runs that go less cold earliest mostly also dip back down again after 2-3 days. Brief warm sector incursion followed by polar maritime?


 


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Brian Gaze
10 January 2016 11:49:01

GEFS6z update looks reasonably consistent.



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Retron
10 January 2016 11:50:27
The ECM control is now out - at 168 there's a high extending from the UK into France. The high moves SE'wards at 192, leaving a ridge over the UK. 216 sees a col, then at 240 a high over Scandinavia brings easterlies and SE'lies (not very cold ones though as the colder air aloft has already moved away).

The high builds over northern Germany at 264, allowing SW'lies to return over Scotland and NI. The high then turns into a Euro high and SW'lies cover the UK out to 360.
Leysdown, north Kent
Brian Gaze
10 January 2016 12:17:27

Here's the 0z Arpege +102 precip type view for 06GMT Thursday. 



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soperman
10 January 2016 12:30:31
Seems consistent with Meto tv forecasts
sriram
10 January 2016 13:42:24
Great to see the red colours appearing

Hopefully this will continue and will destroy the polar vertex soon

And lock us into the freezer

I think there also might be a precedence for cold anticyclonic conditions to precede severe wintery spells like Jan 1991 - as long as the high pressure stays with us and the Atlantic does not get in - there is always a chance of linking to the east and giving us really cold air
Sriram
Sedgley, West Midlands ( just south of Wolverhampton )
162m ASL
Edicius81
10 January 2016 13:47:46


 


I am in Copenhagen at the moment where currently we are in a mild sector - however, temperatures are due to plummet over the next few days, with a daytime max of -10 forecast for Friday and an overnight low of -15. The beast will be here in other words, but will it head due west?


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


A max of what? I'm going to Copenhagen this coming weekend, guess I'll need to wrap up!


Sorry for OT mods.

Arcus
10 January 2016 13:51:59

Not sure if anyone's mentioned the GFS Parallel, but I've noticed it has tended to lean more toward the UKMO/ECM solutions in the mid/longer term in recent runs. Today's 0z gives us this early next week:



The high quickly sets up shop in Europe centred over Germany after that, with a ridge extending into the UK. Sounds not too dissimilar to the ECM control that Darren mentioned earlier although timings slightly different.


 


 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Bertwhistle
10 January 2016 13:55:18


Not sure if anyone's mentioned the GFS Parallel, but I've noticed it has tended to lean more toward the UKMO/ECM solutions in the mid/longer term in recent runs. Today's 0z gives us this early next week:



The high quickly sets up shop in Europe centred over Germany after that, with a ridge extending into the UK. Sounds not too dissimilar to the ECM control that Darren mentioned earlier although timings slightly different.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


For a brief time I could access the parallels as an option on TWOs front charts page but it doesn't seem to be there anymore. Any guidance?


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