Is it me or are the BBC and Met Office being very conservative about the colder weather if any/?

Was reading Weather online's forecast By John Ejdowski: - His forecast for THursday:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=weekahead&DAY=20160207

Thursday 11/02/16
Generally cloudy and cold with a risk of some patchy rain, sleet and snow across England and Wales in the morning. In the afternoon wintry showers may affect eastern coasts. Cold and frosty overnight. Expect maximum temperatures of 2 to 6C.  

 

 

 

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BBC monthly outlook

Monday 8 February—Sunday 14 February
Wind problems look set to continue

A lot going on weather-wise this week. Storm Imogen will cross the UK during Monday bringing very strong winds to southern areas and showers in many places, continuing into Tuesday. Then a quieter period of weather mid-week before another deep area of low pressure moves in from the Atlantic late in the week bringing strong winds and outbreaks of rain.

So looking at this week in a bit more detail. Monday will be a showery day and very windy in the south, severe gales or even storm force winds will affect south Wales and southern England. The centre of the low pressure will be over Scotland and here winds will remain light. To the south of the low centre, showers will be frequent and heavy with hail and thunder. Showers becoming fewer during Tuesday but still frequent over northeast Scotland where it will be windy. Winds veering into a northwesterly direction introducing colder air to all parts with the showers in the north falling as snow on high ground. The weather will draw a breath on Wednesday with something altogether quieter with fewer showers and lighter winds. It will be a colder night on Tuesday night and Wednesday night with a frost developing. The weather is set to turn more unsettled again during Thursday and into Friday with another area of low pressure moving in from the Atlantic. It is again expected to bring wet and windy weather to many areas although Scotland will be drier, brighter and colder with wintry showers. The low pressure will remain close by over the weekend with showers in many areas, wintry on high ground.

Monday 15 February—Sunday 21 February
Weather rollercoaster continues

It looks like an unsettled and cold start to the week with strong northerly winds and blustery showers, falling as snow on higher ground in the north. Then a brief ridge of high pressure will follow from the west during the early part of the week bringing drier conditions. The settled weather is not expected to last for too long before we begin to see further areas of low pressure coming our way across the Atlantic Ocean. At this stage it looks as though the track of the low pressure systems will move back to the north of the British Isles. This will mean the wettest and windiest weather is likely to be over parts of Scotland and Northern Ireland. There are also indications as we go towards the end week that high pressure will begin to build up from the south with something in the way of more settled conditions reaching many parts of England and Wales.

Monday 22 February—Sunday 6 March
Will February finish on a high?

As we head towards the end of February, there is a signal for further areas of low pressure to come our way across the Atlantic. However the various weather forecast models do show a large variety of tracks of these low pressure systems but mostly expected to pass to the north of the UK. This will allow high pressure to build at times, especially in the south bringing longer drier, brighter spells with lighter winds. This will also mean some cold and frosty nights. However we are still likely to see spells of wet and windy weather crossing from the west, more especially over the north of the country. These unsettled conditions will make their way southwards from time to time.

Next week

As we move into the meteorological spring will winter have a sting in its tail?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635167#outlook 

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

UK Outlook for Saturday 13 Feb 2016 to Monday 22 Feb 2016:

Unsettled and rather cold conditions are likely to continue through the weekend. Cold, showery conditions across the north at first may give spells of snow, with overnight frosts likely. Further south more prolonged spells of rain are likely, with a risk of this turning wintry, most likely over high ground. It will be windy at times, with a possibility of gales, most likely in the northeast and far southwest. It may turn drier from the west early in the following week, although remaining cold with overnight frosts. Later on, unsettled conditions are likely to return, with northwestern areas seeing the wettest, windiest weather, and southeastern areas likely to see more in the way of dry weather. Temperatures returning to near normal, although with overnight frosts still possible.

UK Outlook for Tuesday 23 Feb 2016 to Tuesday 8 Mar 2016:

Indications are that the latter half of February will be dominated by changeable weather coming in from the Atlantic. This will bring showers or longer spells of rain to most parts, wettest in northern areas, while southern parts may benefit from some longer dry spells. Snow is likely at times, mainly over northern hills. Temperatures should generally be near normal for the time of year, with the chance of occasional frosty nights where skies become clear. Generally windy with gales or even severe gales at times, mainly in northern and western parts. By late February there is a possibility of more settled weather becoming established, mainly across southern areas, bringing drier and less windy conditions here, however, wet and windy weather will most likely persistent in the north and west.

Outlook for Wednesday to Friday:

 

Bright or sunny spells and a few showers on Wednesday and Thursday, with winds moderating. Cloudier and windier on Friday, with some more general rain or sleet possible.

 

Updated at: 1411 on Mon 8 Feb 2016

 

Local met office text forecast is trying to sound wintry at the end.

 

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Outlook for Wednesday to Friday:

Cold, easing winds and mainly dry on Wednesday and Thursday with scattered wintry showers and overnight frosts. Stronger winds with further rain and hill snow in the south on Friday.

Updated at: 1312 on Mon 8 Feb 2016

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Over on the Beeb website J Hammond not even mentioning snow, shows a slider on Friday but with rain, unsure as to how far N and E the front will get

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J Hammond

" come the weekend some of you could be seeing a different side to winter"

T Showery , some wintry   5c-7c

W Clear day 4c-9c

T Slider entering the UK rain for most V wet 5c-9c

F / S  SNOW RISK models are struggling

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John Hammond on snow : 'We're keeping a careful eye on it '

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The globe behind him starting to look a tad wintry also.

Lets hope we get some white ppn rather than wet

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Here, if anyone missed it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/feeds/35529030

 

Another forecasters nightmare coming up. 

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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

UK Outlook for Sunday 14 Feb 2016 to Tuesday 23 Feb 2016:

Unsettled and rather cold conditions are likely to continue at first. Cold, showery conditions across the northeast at first may give spells of snow, with overnight frosts likely. Further southwest more prolonged spells of rain are likely, with a risk of this turning wintry, most likely over high ground. It will be windy at times, with a possibility of gales, most likely in the northeast and far southwest. It may turn drier from the west at the start of next week, although remaining cold with overnight frosts. Through the week, unsettled conditions should gradually return, with northwestern areas seeing the wettest, windiest weather, and southeastern areas likely to see more in the way of dry weather. Temperatures returning to near normal, although with overnight frosts still possible.

UK Outlook for Wednesday 24 Feb 2016 to Wednesday 9 Mar 2016:

Indications are that the latter half of February will be dominated by changeable weather coming in from the Atlantic. This will bring showers or longer spells of rain to most parts, wettest in northern areas, while southern parts may benefit from some longer dry spells. Snow is likely at times, mainly over northern hills. Temperatures should generally be near normal for the time of year, with the chance of occasional frosty nights where skies become clear. Generally windy with gales or even severe gales at times, mainly in northern and western parts. Into early March there is a possibility of more settled weather becoming established, mainly across southern areas, bringing drier and less windy conditions here, however, wet and windy weather will more likely persist in the north and west.

Short term

Outlook for Thursday to Saturday:

Sunny spells and the odd shower on Thursday. Friday and Saturday will be cloudier with rain at times, particularly in southern and central areas. Bright and cold in the north.

Nice to see the 3-5 day Met text forecasts being upgraded 

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John H Is more confident in next weeks weather and the fact that milder and wetter weather will push in - he seems to know more of that than any cold or snow in a few days time. - Why does he have to bring an end to the cold spell before it's even started (if it does).

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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

UK Outlook for Monday 15 Feb 2016 to Wednesday 24 Feb 2016:

Rather cold conditions are likely at first, with showery conditions across the east and far southwest, and fine conditions elsewhere. Showers are likely to be a mix of sleet, snow and hail, and there will be a widespread overnight frost. It should then turn drier from the west by Tuesday, but remaining cold with widespread, locally severe, overnight frosts. Later next week, unsettled, changeable conditions should gradually return from the west, with a band of cloud and rain making erratic progress eastwards, which may also give some transient snow in places. Thereafter, it should remain unsettled with northwestern areas seeing the wettest, windiest weather, and southeastern areas likely to see more in the way of drier spells. Temperatures returning to near normal, although with overnight frosts still possible.

UK Outlook for Thursday 25 Feb 2016 to Thursday 10 Mar 2016:

Indications are that the end of February will be dominated by unsettled, changeable weather coming in from the Atlantic. This will bring showers or longer spells of rain to most parts, wettest in northwestern areas, while southeastern parts may benefit from some longer dry spells. Snow is likely at times, mainly over northern hills. Temperatures should generally be near normal for the time of year, with the chance of occasional frosty nights where skies become clear. Generally windy with gales or even severe gales at times, mainly in northern and western parts. Into early March there is a possibility of more settled weather becoming established, mainly across southern areas, bringing drier and less windy conditions here, however, wet and windy weather will more likely persist in the north and west.

JFF - For you Marcus! - Snow IYBY - right over Banbury! haha! 🙂 BUT I bet this position of snow will change.

 

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Weather online:

http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/cgi-app/reports?LANG=en&MENU=weekahead&DAY=20160211 

Shows a max of 4c in the south this Thursday!??

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http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast 

Cold and predominantly fine on Tuesday, with a hard frost and potentially some freezing fog patches morning and night. On Tuesday night, it is expected to turn milder and breezy with rain across Scotland and Northern Ireland. The rain perhaps preceded by some snow for a time. During Wednesday and Thursday, the rain and hill snow is expected to spread across Wales and England, but is likely to stall across central parts whilst dying out. Brighter weather with scattered wintry showers follows into northern and western areas. Thereafter, the weather looks set to be rather cold and changeable, with some wet and windy weather, but also some frosty conditions around too during quieter interludes. Probably cold enough for snow at times, though mainly on higher ground and towards the north.

UK Outlook for Friday 26 Feb 2016 to Friday 11 Mar 2016:

A continuation of rather cold and changeable weather conditions looks the most likely trend at this stage, with winds predominantly blowing from the west or northwest. Probably wettest and windiest towards the north, with a greater likelihood of longer settled periods of weather in the south. By mid March, there are signs of more settled weather across other parts of the country too. Temperatures probably averaging out at near or just below the seasonal norm.

Met office update, different from one above, showing a much colder outlook in the second paragraph!

UK Outlook for Tuesday 16 Feb 2016 to Thursday 25 Feb 2016:
Cold and predominantly fine on Tuesday, with a hard frost and potentially some freezing fog patches morning and night. On Tuesday night, it is expected to turn milder and breezy with rain across Scotland and Northern Ireland. The rain perhaps preceded by some snow for a time. During Wednesday and Thursday, the rain and hill snow is expected to spread across Wales and England, but is likely to stall across central parts whilst dying out. Brighter weather with scattered wintry showers follows into northern and western areas. Thereafter, the weather looks set to be rather cold and changeable, with some wet and windy weather, but also some frosty conditions around too during quieter interludes. Probably cold enough for snow at times, though mainly on higher ground and towards the north.

UK Outlook for Friday 26 Feb 2016 to Friday 11 Mar 2016:
A continuation of rather cold and changeable weather conditions looks the most likely trend at this stage, with winds predominantly blowing from the west or northwest. Probably wettest and windiest towards the north, with a greater likelihood of longer settled periods of weather in the south. By mid March, there are signs of more settled weather across other parts of the country too. Temperatures probably averaging out at near or just below the seasonal norm.

Updated at: 0035 on Thu 11 Feb 2016

Looks Gavin D updated it not longer after I reissued it, oh well

Daily Mail says south will get snow on Sat/Sunday. Ok pinch of salt stuff I know and BBC R adio London upgraded their lunchtime forecast today for wintry weather for London from Saturday it us marginal between sleet and snow ..... They state that the Met Office has stated the jet stream has sunk a long way south ? . A lot at stake

BBC Weather just tweeted early indications of disruptive snow next weds/thurs.

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Forecast summary

• UK 5 days


• UK 6-30 days

Outlook for the UK over the next 6-30 days

UK Outlook for Tuesday 16 Feb 2016 to Thursday 25 Feb 2016:

Cold and predominantly fine on Tuesday, with a hard frost and potentially some freezing fog patches morning and night. On Tuesday night, it is expected to turn milder and breezy with rain across Scotland and Northern Ireland. The rain perhaps preceded by some snow for a time. During Wednesday and Thursday, the rain and hill snow is expected to spread across Wales and England, but is likely to stall across central parts whilst dying out. Brighter weather with scattered wintry showers follows into northern and western areas. Thereafter, the weather looks set to be rather cold and changeable, with some wet and windy weather, but also some frosty conditions around too during quieter interludes. Probably cold enough for snow at times, though mainly on higher ground and towards the north.

 

On the basis of this update return to mild is delayed considerably.However rather cold probably means not very exciting.

All very uninspiring to an already uninspiring few months proceeding this. Still I'm certain HLB won't be in short supply cometh the summer.😡

 

Thats an unusually early call for snow they must be pretty confident. 

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Latest bbc weather forecast ive just seen was very interesting if you like the white stuff she mentioned monday snow for the eastern side of the uk