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KevBrads1
Friday, March 25, 2016 7:31:49 AM

The five strongest El Ninos since WWII before 2015-16 were 1957-58, 1965-66, 1972-73, 1982-83 and 1997-98


The CETs for the Aprils that followed these El Nino events


1958: 7.4



1966: 7.2



1973: 7.0



1983: 6.8



1998: 7.7



Will this April go down the same route?


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TimS
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Friday, March 25, 2016 7:50:56 AM
Well the latest model runs hint at something similar.
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Chunky Pea
Friday, March 25, 2016 9:55:47 AM

As Tim S suggests, a pattern change of some sort looks possible during the opening week of April, with pressure falling to our south and over the NW continent in general. A lot of warm uppers in the mix but how this would transpire into conditions on the ground should it pan out like this remains to be seen.


 



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Hungry Tiger
Friday, March 25, 2016 10:35:31 AM

Hmmm - so its not looking like a very mild April . Indeed the contrary.


 


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Sevendust
Friday, March 25, 2016 10:53:58 AM


Hmmm - so its not looking like a very mild April . Indeed the contrary.


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


I would be happy with 1983 and what came later!


 

KevBrads1
Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:17:36 AM

Looks like it has struck again.


I wonder how many who made predictions for this April's CET took this on board?


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picturesareme
Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:25:23 AM

I'm more interested now in what the following summers and winters were like 😏

Phil G
Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:26:21 AM
Thanks Kev, what were the May's like?
Snow Hoper
Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:04:20 AM


Looks like it has struck again.


I wonder how many who made predictions for this April's CET took this on board?


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


I know I did.


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KevBrads1
Thursday, April 21, 2016 2:30:02 PM

Thanks Kev, what were the May's like?

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


May 1998 was warm, May 1983 was chilly, the others were nothing special.


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Phil G
Friday, April 22, 2016 1:40:48 PM
Thanks Kev
KevBrads1
Tuesday, May 3, 2016 7:35:36 AM

Something to look at the next time we have a strong El Niño 


Strong El Niños and the following Aprils


1958: 7.4


1966: 7.2


1973: 7.0


1983: 6.8


1998: 7.7


2016: 7.5


The question for me is why? A statistical quirk? The Marches and Mays of those years were a mixture.


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Saint Snow
Tuesday, May 3, 2016 9:20:54 AM


Something to look at the next time we have a strong El Niño 


Strong El Niños and the following Aprils


1958: 7.4


1966: 7.2


1973: 7.0


1983: 6.8


1998: 7.7


2016: 7.5


The question for me is why? A statistical quirk? The Marches and Mays of those years were a mixture.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


 


That's quite a statistical series - even if not sufficient in number, the correlation is fascinating.


 


Wish I'd have taken notice of it before my monthly CET guess



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springsunshine
Tuesday, May 3, 2016 3:37:17 PM


Something to look at the next time we have a strong El Niño 


Strong El Niños and the following Aprils


1958: 7.4


1966: 7.2


1973: 7.0


1983: 6.8


1998: 7.7


2016: 7.5


The question for me is why? A statistical quirk? The Marches and Mays of those years were a mixture.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


When is the next strong El Nino due??

Saint Snow
Tuesday, May 3, 2016 4:11:43 PM


 


When is the next strong El Nino due??


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


 


Just before the next cool April...


 


 


 


 


 


 




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Caz
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Tuesday, May 3, 2016 8:07:21 PM


Just before the next cool April...


 



Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

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yorkshirelad89
Friday, May 6, 2016 10:49:09 AM


Something to look at the next time we have a strong El Niño 


Strong El Niños and the following Aprils


1958: 7.4


1966: 7.2


1973: 7.0


1983: 6.8


1998: 7.7


2016: 7.5


The question for me is why? A statistical quirk? The Marches and Mays of those years were a mixture.


Originally Posted by: KevBrads1 


I think there may be something in it. A few months after an El Nino event (ie Spring) North Atlantic SSTs often become anomalously warm. To get warm SSTs in this region you need persistant southerlies over this basin.


The consequence of that? The UK can be on the wrong side and be influenced by a higher then normal amount of northerly days.


Seems to have been something that has occurred this year.


During May north-easterlies can be very warm under the right synoptics so its not something that is clear cut.


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