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Maunder Minimum
04 December 2016 20:26:12

The moaning thread is the only sane place to be during a British winter.  I am gutted that the current frosty spell is coming to an end, to be replaced with gut wrenching and sickening mild of unending and dispiriting duration.


The only sensible thing to do under the circumstances is to down a bottle of wine and watch a blockbuster.


New world order coming.
Arcus
04 December 2016 20:26:25


I think those 2 charts from 2009 and 2010 show more of a 'backdoor' maritime Arctic flow than true continental sourced cold. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 



Yes that 2010 chart was a dud. Good grief.


Ben,
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Solar Cycles
04 December 2016 20:45:20


The moaning thread is the only sane place to be during a British winter.  I am gutted that the current frosty spell is coming to an end, to be replaced with gut wrenching and sickening mild of unending and dispiriting duration.


The only sensible thing to do under the circumstances is to down a bottle of wine and watch a blockbuster.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Our fwosty spell consisted of two fwosty mornings, it's been above average temps for the majority of the week........ And this is a cold spell. 😂😂😂😂

Chunky Pea
04 December 2016 21:01:16



Yes that 2010 chart was a dud. Good grief.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 



 


Current Conditions
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Whether Idle
04 December 2016 21:13:35


I expect some people would find something to moan about with this type of chart. 01 Feb 1956.  Next day -20 uppers in Kent.


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JACKO4EVER
05 December 2016 06:28:30
I'm reserving judgment until -

1. We are much further into the winter period
2. I see Richard from Aberdeen post.

Which will be the soonest?
Shropshire
05 December 2016 08:46:22

I'm reserving judgment until -

1. We are much further into the winter period
2. I see Richard from Aberdeen post.

Which will be the soonest?

Originally Posted by: JACKO4EVER 


 


I think Richard has already posted in another thread, now his moaning is really first class. 


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Saint Snow
05 December 2016 10:04:38


The only sensible thing to do under the circumstances is to down a bottle of wine and watch a blockbuster.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


"I'll have a 'P' please, Bob"


 



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Saint Snow
05 December 2016 10:13:51

As far as late-autumn/early winter spells go, I can have no complaints. We've had some lovely crisp days with frosts (even some days where the temp has hit 0c by evening) - although most of last week was frost-free as night-time cloud & slightly increased temps put paid to that. Overall, I reckon we've had around 10 frosts over the last 3 weeks.


If this is a hors d'oeuvre for some better winter weather (OK, I mean snow & prolonged cold to keep it in situ for a couple/few weeks) then it would be a tasty treat to be fondly remembered in the context of a fabulous festive feast.


However, if it turns out to be the main course, or is only followed by another frosty-but-dry amuse-bouche, then it will leave a big, gaping gap in my nourishment, an appetite unfulfilled.


 



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nsrobins
05 December 2016 15:36:37


 


 


"I'll have a 'P' please, Bob"


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


😂👌


Maybe we can coin a new phrase: 'This winter has done a right Bob Holness?' 


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Brian Gaze
05 December 2016 15:42:30


The only sensible thing to do under the circumstances is to down a bottle of wine and watch a blockbuster.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


But make sure you've opened the windows and turned the aircon on full blast  otherwise you'll think it's June. The next 7 to 10 days look a pathetic excuse for mid December.


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sizzle
05 December 2016 16:05:40


 


 


But make sure you've opened the windows and turned the aircon on full blast  otherwise you'll think it's June. The next 7 to 10 days look a pathetic excuse for mid December.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

 BRILLIANT !!!!! now that's funny.

Solar Cycles
05 December 2016 17:08:10
I'm putting it out there now in that I think they'll be no lowland snow for the majority of UK this year. I'm also wondering on what the odds are for any of the major cities not seeing lying snow for the duration of this winter, might be worth a punt.
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05 December 2016 18:17:45


 


 


But make sure you've opened the windows and turned the aircon on full blast  otherwise you'll think it's June. The next 7 to 10 days look a pathetic excuse for mid December.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


If it is going to be mild then let it be exceptionally so from an extremes point of view. 10C in December just doesn't hold much interest.


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cultman1
05 December 2016 19:51:33

Surely having read these posts December mildness is utterly nailed on till at least the last week of December at the earliest? 

TimS
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05 December 2016 20:01:12
Looking forward to some pleasant mild weather this week. With central heating off, reasonably light winds and not much if any rain what's not to like?

As for cold spells, anyone remember this very short lived but dramatic one?

https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/52188-the-great-midlands-blizzard-9th-december-1990/ 

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TimS
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05 December 2016 20:08:46
And I have a hunch (call it a Brian Gaze Trump / Brexit kind of hunch) that we will see a snowy Easterly this winter, for the first time in years. January I reckon.
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Chunky Pea
05 December 2016 20:14:25

Can't believe it is a year ago today that 'Storm Desmond' hit, which gave some huge rainfall totals to parts of both Ireland and the UK. Analysis chart at midnight 6th (from UK Met) The 'storm' itself was more a strong long-fetch flow rather than from an organised depression so sorta unusual in that regard. I remember the rain well, but the winds if I recall correctly were not particularly notable here in the west of Ireland at least.


 



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Arcus
05 December 2016 21:49:18


 



 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Apologies, only just noticed this.  Have a look at the archive charts prior to that date. CP airmass, no PM influence.


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Jonesy
05 December 2016 23:03:15

Looking forward to some pleasant mild weather this week. With central heating off, reasonably light winds and not much if any rain what's not to like?

As for cold spells, anyone remember this very short lived but dramatic one?

https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/52188-the-great-midlands-blizzard-9th-december-1990/

Originally Posted by: TimS 


I don't mind a warm up aslong as its not a low cloud gloomy, foggy/misty one 


 


 


 


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tallyho_83
05 December 2016 23:51:34


Surely having read these posts December mildness is utterly nailed on till at least the last week of December at the earliest? 


Originally Posted by: cultman1 


According to the Met Office it will turn unsettled toward the new Year which means milder I guess!?


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TomC
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06 December 2016 08:56:08

I blame Brexit, access to air from the European Union will have to be negotiated, in the meantime we have Atlantic air both summer and winter.

Crepuscular Ray
06 December 2016 09:48:13

Looking forward to some pleasant mild weather this week. With central heating off, reasonably light winds and not much if any rain what's not to like?

As for cold spells, anyone remember this very short lived but dramatic one?

https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/52188-the-great-midlands-blizzard-9th-december-1990/

Originally Posted by: TimS 


Remember it well Tim I lived in Nottingham. A Saturday morning and a serious wet blizzard deposited 20cm! No electricity or 'telephones' for 24hrs.Wires were sagging towards the ground.


Thousands were marooned including a lot of folk at the Clothes Show, NEC Birmingham


Worst affected area was the Birmingham Nottingham Sheffield triangle


As you say, short-lived in an otherwise mild December


Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
idj20
06 December 2016 12:03:28

Not a moan from me, but a nod of approval.

Take today for instance, 10 C in soft winter sunshine under calm wind where it felt positively spring-like. I could even smell the scent of summer in the air since the light wind is still wafting in from the near Continent via a relatively warm Channel. The heating went off a few hours ago and I have a couple of windows ajar to let the air circulate indoors.

I could easily live with all that if it could actually stay like this more often than not throughout the winter.

 


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richardabdn
06 December 2016 18:17:42

Depressing grey gloomy frost-free muck for the 6th day out of 7th and by the looks of things the mean temperature could end up even higher for the first half of the month than it was last December


Only worse start to winter in my memory was 2002 and if the WeatherOnline forecast is to be believed we could be in for a repeat of that repulsive month.




*10/12/16 - 17/12/16*
A mixed week for all.
Hints of conditions becoming cooler again through this week as higher pressure builds.
Winds becoming more southeast to easterly again. There will be some dry conditions, but the risk of drizzle and patchy outbreaks of rain is also increasingly likely during the week.


*18/12/16 - 24/12/16* High pressure may stay east of the country in the run-up to Christmas.
Critically important is the positon of the high as this will dictate what the wind direction wil be.
At this stage we expect an east to southeast wind and for conditions to be cool overall. A risk of some rain or sleet in the west.


*25/12/16 - 31/12/16*
Little change with the cooler, east to southeast flow dominating with higher pressure ot the east.
Driest in the east, although bands of precipitation trying to get into the west which could turn to sleet and snow for some.



http://www.weatheronline.co.uk/weather/reports/month-ahead.htm 



The most sickening and revolting forecast I have ever read for winter. Beyond vile Just hopes its accuracy turns out to be as awful as the pidgin English it’s written in. How on earth can a piece with spelling mistakes and poor grammar make it on to, what I had assumed was, a professionally run website?


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