14C this afternoon. These last three days have been excellent!

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WTF
What a joke ha ha 😂😂😂😂
Anyone would think it's April Fools Day

Judging from the outside temperatures, it probably is

Well you either have to laugh or cry.

[edit] just been looking into Exacta Weather. It appears they base their forecasts on solar activity or lack thereof. They even thought last winter could be affected. But if December 2010 teaches anything about the solar influence, it is at the end of an extended minimum that it may cause effects, not at the start. We are only just now heading into solar minimum, so if there is any influence on the NAO which might help us, we might have to wait until winter 2018-19 before we see it.

 

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15 c today. overcast and mild. Quite yucky and unseasonal with this mild weather with many in short sleeves.

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It's just some bloke posting rubbish from his bedroom.

The Guardian shreds him to pieces here:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2015/apr/09/daily-express-weather-warning-beware-a-shower-of-extreme-inaccuracy

Looks like he's got some fans on Facebook too!

https://www.facebook.com/Exacta-Weather-the-truth-behind-the-headlines-231254790375886/

(No, I don't have a Facebook account but that link above seems to work well enough without one!)

 

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I'll start in his absence:

http://modeles7.meteociel.fr/modeles/gens/run/gensnh-11-1-384.png

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Mild here - but on the positive side it means heating costs are lower! But I always look for positives - it means I can watch for the Gemini meteor shower around the 13th December without wearing two jackets and two hats. Also Aurora can put on a show any time now - first sightings this end of the year in September. All I need is a clear sky ....and there's the problem.😬

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It's James Madman innit?

 

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If only his wishful thinking could become reality. 😜

Its probably the only piece of journalism  I'll ever agree with from the co-author of said article. 

I am sick to death of yet another rotten lousy winter that is beyond depressing. This month is the absolute pits - not just for the lack of snow and frost but mainly the extreme gloom.

Where the hell is the sunshine that was promised today? Clear at dawn but now it is yet more dismal grey muck totally obscuring the sky just like the last two weekends. Yet even with the clear skies the temperature got no lower than 4.2C.

If there had been as much sunshine as forecast this month we would be sitting on about 30 hours rather than the pitiful 9 hours. It is just grim and depressing - worse than 2013 and 2015. 5 days already with a big fat ZERO sunshine. Average number of sunless days in December over the last 10 years for the whole of December has been 6.8 with a range from 2 in 2011 to 12  in 2012 which puts in to perspective how awful this winter has been so far.

This month on course to be even milder than last December and two consecutive December’s with a mean over 6C would be unprecedented. Not to mention the mean of 5.6C in 2013. It’s been a truly dire run. It's not just a case of little snow, as there was in the 90s, but there is exceptionally little frost too and an inordinate amount of horrifically wet and unpleasant weather. February 2011, December 2012, Winter 13/14, first half of 15/16 and now this: all intolerable, insufferable and depressingly bad periods that rank amongst the worst winter weather on record.

 

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I know this is a moaning thread but if you continue with crap like this just as you did for months on end in the summer moaning/gloating thread then I'm just going to block your posts. You are a complete pain in the arse!

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Well I am looking on the bright side!   All this rain today means I wont have to cut the grass tomorrow: the garden will be too waterlogged

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Here in Edinburgh, it is completely different story since it is now so long ago since I last saw it raining during daylight hours, that I have actually forgotten when that was (I'm not a professional meteorologist, so I don't have means of measuring that which many other people on these forums have). So far, we have had a very dry start to the winter which is on the completely opposite extreme in terms of rainfall figures to what we had at this time last year, when there was all of that flooding around.

At the moment, there are weather systems coming in from the Atlantic but so far, they are either missing us altogether, or being weakened so much by that nearby blocking high over the continent, that there is little or no rainfall left on them by the time that they reach us. With forecasts showing no signs of that situation changing any time soon (if anything, the models are pointing toward that high pressure building back in towards us which then reduces the chances of us getting rain even further) and since it is now so long ago since we last had any sort of wetter than average season, we are still looking at a possible winter drought scenario where I live.

 

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Don't come on the moaning thread then The winters here since the first month of winter 2010/11 have been nothing short of a joke for what is meant to be the snowiest city in the UK. 

No it's not crap, it reflects the reality of the modern British Winter!

As the saying goes you can't polish a sh*t!

Can the last person to leave the UK please turn out the light.

Andy

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its seems to me that this winter is going to go TITS UP not evan the forecasters can get it right but saying that MR brian said winter is a tough call matt hugo said winter is WILDCARDS 10 days in im GREENED OUT already but tonight is wet and windy but mild so November has arrived.

looks like jan before we see some winter weather the UK is PANTS when it come to any season tho summer was ok and I HATE summer HP always dominates just like now

Winter is doing it's own thing this year.. The dive will come soon enough.... I Hope...

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Isn't pretty much every month/season in existence the worst on record for you, Richard?

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Oh crap, it's catching!

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I wil have my strong opinon about winter at the end of winter and I will speak my mind that's my moad for now,

Our seasons appear to be mixed up just now, and I have seen cooler maximum temperatures during the middle of summer, than what most of us have being seeing in recent days, and I can even recall that it was only last year (2015) that there was snow on the Cairngorms on the day of the SUMMER (yes, I do mean summer) solstice instead of that snow coming to us just now at the very time that we would expect to at the very least, start to be getting that snow.

On top of that, Richard from Aberdeen is actually quite right when he expresses just how crap our weather seems to be for most of the time, and I certainly wouldn't knock him for stating exactly how he feels about that (this is a moaning thread, after all). In many ways, it really is just the same old weather that we get throughout the year and because of that, our seasons seem to be becoming increasing indistinguishable with increasingly similar temperatures all year round and on top of that, our winters tend to be dark, dismal, mild and virtually snowless whilst our summers tend to consist of almost constantly grey skies.

That appears to be quite a depressing scenario and yet, that is the 'modern era' for you, which is mentioned so much on these forums.

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At least we don't have to worry about this here at the UK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/antarctic-explorer-suffers-freezing-condition-9438430

Saving grace every cloud has a silver lining and all that.

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lol Ian,there is however a notable rise here in U.K. This winter of "Mild mouldy manhood"