Isn't pretty much every month/season in existence the worst on record for you, Richard?

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Oh crap, it's catching!

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I wil have my strong opinon about winter at the end of winter and I will speak my mind that's my moad for now,

Our seasons appear to be mixed up just now, and I have seen cooler maximum temperatures during the middle of summer, than what most of us have being seeing in recent days, and I can even recall that it was only last year (2015) that there was snow on the Cairngorms on the day of the SUMMER (yes, I do mean summer) solstice instead of that snow coming to us just now at the very time that we would expect to at the very least, start to be getting that snow.

On top of that, Richard from Aberdeen is actually quite right when he expresses just how crap our weather seems to be for most of the time, and I certainly wouldn't knock him for stating exactly how he feels about that (this is a moaning thread, after all). In many ways, it really is just the same old weather that we get throughout the year and because of that, our seasons seem to be becoming increasing indistinguishable with increasingly similar temperatures all year round and on top of that, our winters tend to be dark, dismal, mild and virtually snowless whilst our summers tend to consist of almost constantly grey skies.

That appears to be quite a depressing scenario and yet, that is the 'modern era' for you, which is mentioned so much on these forums.

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At least we don't have to worry about this here at the UK: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/antarctic-explorer-suffers-freezing-condition-9438430

Saving grace every cloud has a silver lining and all that.

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lol Ian,there is however a notable rise here in U.K. This winter of "Mild mouldy manhood" 

It would be nice to get some sun, been dull for days on end - it's getting like Aberdeen!  cannot remember when there was some sunny spells.

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I blame myself the last three years iv had snow tyres on me car .yep bugger all snow i think i will sell them bound to snow then it all my fault

This year in particular has been very dull and boring weatherwise. Apart from the storms and rain in January and a few warm days in July I can't remember any weather events this year. Not even had a thunderstorm. I'd rather the raging active zonality of last winter than this nothingness. And I see we're being teased with more LRFs hinting at "blocked" weather next month. Tired of these wild goose chases with charts that are always 2 weeks away. Unless agreement within +144hrs I'm not interested anymore and even then I'll believe it when I see it. I've been around the block way too much over the years.

At least November was interesting with a good mix of cold, frost, rain, sun and thankfully calm - in these parts 0 and calm feels so much better than 10 and windy and looks better too. BUT as the saying goes:
"If November ice will bear a duck, the winter will be slush and muck." I reckon the ice around here in Northumberland would have borne a good sized Swan! I rest my case.....

In which case, we should be in for blizzards beyond all compare down here - two frosts in November, that was it. There wasn't enough ice to support a flea, let alone a duck!

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Same here, two frosts and three days of below average temps all standard November fayre around these parts. All eyes are now on the garden path for the Xmas period and beyond, are we being led up it again or should I be stocking up on supplies for the forthcoming "big" freeze. 😜

As winter progresses the north must surely get its act together and give the models conditions that they are progged to run with? As it stands its almost as though the deeper you get into the run the more the models try to pull things in a direction that they are prog'ed to see in the N.Hemisphere? Sadly we've been seeing some pretty 'extreme' behaviours across the north?

My greatest concern is what we see the eastern seaboard spawning as they have been our bain over winters since 07'? Our Flood Alleviation schemes are only half complete and though they might cope better with a Boxing Day 2016 scale event we would still see extensive flooding in areas still repairing from last year?

If things stay as they are with low solar driving Atlantic blocking for us then I am content even if it only means a worse Arctic summer in 2017 as next winter will see solar in a similar phase keeping the Atlantic at bay no matter how extreme it has become by then?

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It's becoming yet another overcast damp dull and dark muggy warm day with temperatures 0f 14c.

If this was summer we would be seeing a week or two of extreme heat and thunder etc. Just a big pity we never get the right set up in the right month. - We had a week of easterlies in October which could have brought cold and snow if this occurred now and now winter is here we get a perfect set up for a summers chart with southerly winds.

Just a horror show really - not to mention.. very unseasonal.

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Whenever I have a long and hot shower which naturally makes it steamy in the bathroom, I then leave the two windows and a wall vent open afterwards to air the room out. That usually does the trick where the room is dried out within the hour and thus kept free from mould.

On this occasion, I had a shower fours hours ago and did the venting routine but the walls are still wet with heavy condensation, the 95% outside humidity is what preventing evaporation from taking place indoors.

Yuk. No wonder why houses in the north suffers with mildew and mould.  

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Can the weather get any worse than it is today? No! Temps +11.0C, calm conditions and persistent drizzle accompanied by unremittingly overcast skies. Utterly dire. This is the dreaded Zonal Bartlett in action and personally if we can't get cold or storms I hope we'll switch to a full Bartlett.

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Welcome to my world!

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tbh looking at the charts at the moment even slush would be a bonus !

I suppose last year was worse with the severe flooding - albeit this was more for the northern half of the UK admittedly 

You make a very valid point re never getting the right set up in the right month.

 

Being stuck out on the east side of the Isle of Sheppey is not really representative though is it, especially in November (sea still very warm in relative terms) and with the 'type' of cold nights this November (clear and still) as opposed to truly cold air stream. 

In Horley, Surrey (and backed by the official Gatwick stats close by) a total of 9 frosts in November 2016.

(and indeed expecting slush and muck most of this winter )

 

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I heard a pop song from the 80s last night, it went 'They said there would be snow at Christmas. They said there would be peace on earth. Instead it just kept on raining......' You see the Met office have always got the blame for everything.

This can't get any worse - not to mention unseasonal or boring! Absolutely nothing here now - just another day of 14c with overcast skies spits of drizzle and dull or gloomy.

I am a little frustrated - we saw so many colder ensembles charts on the GFS A week ago including on Gav Christmas video updates - and now it looks like not one will materialise NOT one!! All we need is a cold spell ...just one.

Also, I thought because we have lower solar activity with fewer sunspots, a weak La Nina to Enso neutral, more hurricanes in the Atlantic (this fall) as well as a rapid build-up of Siberian snow-cover increases chances of blocking and colder air to come our way!? Why isn't this the case!? I am not criticising any Gav's video updates but we have had all of the above except a tri-pol yet we still fail to get any proper cold continental air or wintry weather so far and won't have any for the rest of the month now. Is this winter going to be another poor one or am I being too pessimistic!? 

At least December 2015 brought a good amount of snow to some parts of Scotland /mountains. This winter there has been little if any snow so far for Scotland and this looks set to continue. What a dire start!

Your turn now Richard?! How's the weather in Aberdeen - is this December worse that last December so far?!

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No it is nowhere near as bad as the incessant rain and damaging storms of last December and I certainly hope it will not develop into that at any stage this winter. Wintry it is not but better than last year? Without the shadow of a doubt! It's also not overly exciting or interesting, just rather benign.

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But last December Scottish highlands did have some snow in December right!?

 

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