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Nordic Snowman
Friday, February 7, 2014 4:48:30 PM
I definitely agree that Ireland, Wales and SW Eng have been battered. My comments are more in reference to the hype regarding tomorrow. Whilst I acknowledge the aforementioned locations will again suffer, I am not seeing a 'major' event for C and E areas.
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Jive Buddy
Friday, February 7, 2014 4:58:33 PM

Right, part one complete!

It was amazing to see so many people ready and willing to help today: Community Wardens, Parish Councils, City Councils, Kent County Council, The EA, Kent Fire & Rescue, St. John Ambulance, Kent Police, The British Red Cross, and....the Red Lion Pub, who's car park became the rendevous point, and who's toilets were in constant use! (plus they had fresh coffee on the go all the time  ).


I managed to get a good chat with the BBC news crew, to give them some idea on our role both here and elsewhere. Local BBC did a piece on the Red Cross, so hopefully that'll make it to air.


We're now of course, looking to see what tonight and tomorrow bring....


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

Location: St. Mary Cray, S.E. London border with Kent.
Rob K
Friday, February 7, 2014 5:18:28 PM

Not sure why people were saying Wednesday's rain wasn't as bad as expected. We had 20mm+ from that event which was more than forecast. Areas further south and east had 35mm+.


The River Blackwater here is currently about 60cm above normal but still about 25cm short of the levels reached in July 2007.


A couple of pics from this afternoon in rare sunshine:


The ford at New Mill, Eversley. Normally the river is confined to the space under the footbridge in the distance!



 


Mill Farm in Yateley. Water well over the lawns and it wouldn't take much more of a rise to be flooding the house.



 


In Eversley a big tree has come down and smashed through the railings of the bridge by the Tally Ho, for those who know that area. The pub appeared to be open still although half the car park and garden are under water...


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Nordic Snowman
Friday, February 7, 2014 7:04:44 PM
ECM Op run is going for between 4 and 8mm of rain in the nxt 24 hrs - across C and E areas. That is, as I said earlier, light rain. As expected, up to an inch in the SW where the heaviest and most frequent showers will be.
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Stormchaser
Saturday, February 8, 2014 12:35:33 AM

ECM Op run is going for between 4 and 8mm of rain in the nxt 24 hrs - across C and E areas. That is, as I said earlier, light rain. As expected, up to an inch in the SW where the heaviest and most frequent showers will be.

Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/02/07/basis12/ukuk/rsum/14020812_0712.gif


7-14mm here for the SW'rn third. Moderate for the most part I'd say. Then yes, only light accumulations of 3-5mm for the rest of England.


http://expert-images.weatheronline.co.uk/daten/proficharts/en/euro4/2014/02/07/basis12/ukuk/rsum/14020912_0712.gif


5-10mm possible from Sunday's showers for many, but considerably more than that across a fair part of Devon and Cornwall and a substantial amount for Wales - some 25mm or so.


 


The showery element is highly uncertain, of course. Recent westerlies have not tended to deliver much here in Reading, but each airmass differs in terms of moisture and lapse rates so you can never really be sure what to expect exactly.


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Whether Idle
Saturday, February 8, 2014 5:35:34 AM


GFS serves up more misery, and even the threat of heavy transient wet snow overnight Tuesday to Wednesday, but the main theme is rain rain rain.  And wind. Above is the accumulated rainfall chart. OK for some  NE districts, again.


 


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Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:12:37 AM
Winds now picking up in the south-west. Recent gust in the Scilly Isles of 77mph
Osprey
Saturday, February 8, 2014 7:51:02 AM

Off topic a bit, and maybe this needs a seperate thread or it's not worth discussing


Might seem a daft question too, but does anyone think we need more reservoirs?


I ask this because my gut feeling again is the weather may swing back more severely the other way and we end up again like the year before last with water shortages.


It's still fresh in my mind the worries discussed (Especially for the eastern side of the UK) of the desperation for rain, and it doesn't take long but several weeks without rain before we are back in to hosepipe bans again.


...and it could be why the EA are slow on the flood preventions or which is the worst of the two evils floods or drought


Just a thought and some idle Q's while I'm twiddling my thumbs, waiting for the dry weather to come back...


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johnr
Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:07:01 AM

Wave heights a few miles west of Lands End showing a dramatic rise this morning. Seems to be already higher than Wednesday.


http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=62107&unit=M


http://magicseaweed.com/Sevenstones-Lightship-Wave-Buoy/61774/?start_format=04+Feb+2014&end_format=08+Feb+2014


 


 


 


 


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Nordic Snowman
Saturday, February 8, 2014 9:59:45 AM
A few showers here but largely dry with sunny spells and with a gentle breeze. Windy later - perhaps an odd gust up to 50mph on this part of the s coast.
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Matty H
Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:15:35 AM
A better day so far than I was anticipating. Dry and fairly calm.
Hippydave
Saturday, February 8, 2014 10:51:30 AM

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/136485.aspx?stationId=1074


Getting interestingly close to the highest 'recent' reading although some way to go to the highest ever. Think we had somewhere around 10mm for the last 24 hours here so levels will stay high for a while but should drop off before the next bout of rain moves through.


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Gooner
Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:27:34 AM



GFS serves up more misery, and even the threat of heavy transient wet snow overnight Tuesday to Wednesday, but the main theme is rain rain rain.  And wind. Above is the accumulated rainfall chart. OK for some  NE districts, again.


 


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Sunday:


Remaining very windy but winds should ease slightly through the day. Further bright spells and scattered showers, again heavy and possibly thundery in places and wintry over higher ground.


Outlook for Monday to Wednesday:


Winds should continue to ease on Monday, with brighter spells and scattered showers. Becoming very wet and windy again on Tuesday but probably becoming more showery for most on Wednesday.


Issued at: 0400 on Sat 8 Feb 2014


No mention of snow from the Met this week


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Osprey
Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:35:24 AM

The wind has become more gusty and beginning to darken after a sunny start...


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Jive Buddy
Saturday, February 8, 2014 11:47:28 AM

No idea how much rain fell in East Kent last night - it was raining slightly when I went to bed, and hammering it down when I woke up around 6am this morning. So far, we've not been called out. However, the river at Bridge is back to yesterday's peak level (and very slightly higher), and we have been tasked to help there tomorrow morning at 8am.


Today is very much a waiting game, so see if levels rise in other areas. This gives an idea of the potential so far:


http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/136486.aspx?stationId=1139


That station is a few miles downstream from where we were yesterday.


The drive to Bridge from Thanet reveals a landscape of lakes that were once fields. Many minor roads already suffering badly - sadly, complete with turdheads who think it's fun to drive through floodwater in their 4x4s at high speed :-(


Watching the water bubbling through the road surface yeasterday, was one of the most mind-blowing effects I've ever seen from UK weather. Worse, is that it's sewage contaminated water!


Some (as always) pooh pooh these weather events if they don't witness it first hand, but I can tell you in places like Bridge, it's a very real crisis. God knows what it must be like in some of the worse areas like Somerset/Devon/Cornwall etc!


It's not over, until the fat Scandy sinks.....

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pnepaul
Saturday, February 8, 2014 2:16:53 PM

Does this count as extreme - current pressure here is 955mb

Nordic Snowman
Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:41:47 PM
Blustery showers but I think it's fair to say it isn't the extreme storm which the media and hype suggested.
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Bagfish
Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:44:37 PM

I grew up in East Kent and don't remember any flooding like that being seen at the moment. In fact what I remember most is that the fords along Old Palace Road near Patrixbourne were almost always dry, it was very rare for there to be water in them. 


I've just had a look at the gauging station data at Littlebourne on the Little Stour at it is at 0.7m.  The highest recorded flood before this was 0.25m.  It's almost three times higher than the highest recorded level


 


http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/riverlevels/136486.aspx?stationId=1139


 


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idj20
Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:46:51 PM

Blustery showers but I think it's fair to say it isn't the extreme storm which the media and hype suggested.

Originally Posted by: Nordic Snowman 



A couple of very brief passing showers had flitted through here at Folkestone but funnily enough it is being all unremarkable stuff so far today. Did get rather wet and hairy last night, though.
  However, I won't be dropping my guard just yet as apparently it is still expected to get blustery and squally this evening.

But all in all, as far as this area is concerned, so far, so good.

I wonder how those living over the South West and Wales are coping, I've noticed there seems to have been a LOT of heavy rain over Wales.


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Nordic Snowman
Saturday, February 8, 2014 3:59:44 PM
Of course, the SW and Wales taking the brunt - as expected. My point yesterday was that C and E areas wouldn't fair too bad and this seems the case with some fair weather, scattered blustery showers with fresh but gusty winds. Some flooding in SE areas too, as seen in this thread but in the main, I would say not an extreme event in its own right.

This evening could see stronger winds and after midnight, perhaps more widespread rainfall amounts in the S.
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Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:18:22 PM

Rain predictions for here have been going down steadily the last few days with 12mm in week one and 6mm in week two - near normal.


Phil G
Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:19:16 PM
Weather in between, and another notable storm in six days if this comes off
http://www.wetterzentrale.de/pics/Rtavn1448.gif 

Charmhills
Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:21:55 PM

Strong gusty winds here and wet.


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Rob K
Saturday, February 8, 2014 5:09:39 PM
Went for a walk in the sunshine up on Yateley common today and it is the wettest I have ever seen it in 35 years living around here. Bearing in mind it is sandy free draining heathland so it takes a lot of sustained rainfall to get it wet. The pond (Wyndham's Pool) is full to the brim with a real waterfall pouring over the concrete spillway which I have never once seen overtopped before now. Paths are mostly fast-flowing streams now. Quite remarkable to have that level of surface water on what is basically a big layer of sand and gravel soils.
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Whether Idle
Saturday, February 8, 2014 6:07:29 PM

 


http://www.meteox.com/h.aspx?r=&jaar=-3&soort=satradar


 


Some squally wet conditions brewing in the channel and heading for SE corner.  More disturbances further N and W too.


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