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27 December 2015 06:36:37


River levels are still rising, remarkably.



Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


I feel so sad and so sorry for people, this is utterly awful.  I also feel angry that more is not being done to mitigate against flooding.  With political will, a lot can be done in upper catchments to store much of the water on the moors and prevent the water getting straight into the rivers in the first place.  Serious thinking required. 


Sadly the weather pattern is very reluctant to allow easterly winds in - which would give the NW a break.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
tinybill
27 December 2015 07:51:03
Arcus
27 December 2015 09:52:03
Failure of Foss pumping station has caused Foss and Ouse to rise further. Ouse now at 5m above normal - highest recorded was 5.4m back in 2000, with 5.05m recorded in 2012. Projected that it may break the 5.4m given there's still 24 hours before peak levels reached. Evacuations of homes in the city is by in large not being caused by Ouse (the defences are much better), but it's the problems with the Foss.

If levels on the Ouse exceed 5.4m then the defences for a much larger part of the city may be breeched.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
westv
27 December 2015 09:54:50

Fortunately all fine here.


At least it will be mild!
four
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27 December 2015 10:19:08

Failure of Foss pumping station has caused Foss and Ouse to rise further. Ouse now at 5m above normal - highest recorded was 5.4m back in 2000, with 5.05m recorded in 2012. Projected that it may break the 5.4m given there's still 24 hours before peak levels reached. Evacuations of homes in the city is by in large not being caused by Ouse (the defences are much better), but it's the problems with the Foss.

If levels on the Ouse exceed 5.4m then the defences for a much larger part of the city may be breeched.

Originally Posted by: Arcus 



When with the water from the last day or two peak?
It always surprised me how long it takes.
Unlike the previous events this winter there will be quite a big input from the Derwent as well as Dales rivers this time - we had well over 30mm, probably twice that on the high ground no doubt.


Arcus
27 December 2015 10:35:39




When with the water from the last day or two peak?
It always surprised me how long it takes.
Unlike the previous events this winter there will be quite a big input from the Derwent as well as Dales rivers this time - we had well over 30mm, probably twice that on the high ground no doubt.


Originally Posted by: four 


I've read that they are looking at early Monday for the peak on the Ouse, so almost 48 hours after the rain stopped in the catchments.


Anyone that knows York will know some of these streets - which haven't flooded like this since the 1980s, but now the Foss is causing real problems:



Walmgate this morning (@yorkie_pudding)



Piccadilly (@your_funnyuncle)



Foss Islands Road (@SteveJBradley)


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Gooner
27 December 2015 10:43:47

I do feel for anyone who is flooded, lets hope the HP wins the battle currently being shown and it all dries out


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Hungry Tiger
27 December 2015 11:24:07

Any more rainfall totals anyone.


Does anyone have the graph showing the peak level of the River Aire. Last one showed it at 4.34m.


 


 


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Solar Cycles
27 December 2015 11:59:20
It's been an horrendous 36 hours around these parts luckily IMBY escaped the worst but all eyes now on the next event. Hopefully January will bring some much needed drier conditions at some point.🙁
27 December 2015 12:35:57

Here are the 6 hour rainfall totals for the 48 hours to 06z today from a selection of official Met Office stations.


Frank H
27 December 2015 12:54:44

I recorded 20mm to midnight on 25th and 48.8mm to midnight on 26th


Wrightington, Wigan
Arcus
27 December 2015 13:39:56
Ouse in York is at 5.09m above normal at 13.00. Currently rising at about 2cm per hour, which is slower than earlier. Main defences in city centre are under serious threat at about 5.40m+, will be a close call later and overnight.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Hungry Tiger
27 December 2015 13:46:30


Here are the 6 hour rainfall totals for the 48 hours to 06z today from a selection of official Met Office stations.



Originally Posted by: Global Warming 


Amazing - most of those readings for the 48 hours are over 2 inches. That figure for Capel Curig is over 8 inches.


I imagine that some places in the North West must be heading for over 20 inches for the whole month of December.


 


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Fothergill
27 December 2015 13:56:02


Amazing - most of those readings for the 48 hours are over 2 inches. That figure for Capel Curig is over 8 inches.


I imagine that some places in the North West must be heading for over 20 inches for the whole month of December.


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


To 6am today for Dec:

980.2 mm - Capel Curig
761.0 mm - Shap


Honister in Cumbria recorded 1,038mm in November and 978mm in December to the 26th.


A lot of rain.


 

Hungry Tiger
27 December 2015 14:04:49


 


To 6am today for Dec:

980.2 mm - Capel Curig
761.0 mm - Shap


Honister in Cumbria recorded 1,038mm in November and 978mm in December to the 26th.


A lot of rain.


 


Originally Posted by: Fothergill 


Phew - never mind 20 inches. Jeeesus - that is almost 40 inches.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
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South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Arcus
27 December 2015 15:48:17


York racecourse this afternoon. Think that's an overflowing covered drain rather than a drowning horse (pic by @thepottatoes)


 


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Brian Gaze
27 December 2015 16:55:57

Huntington Road on the edge of York is flooded now. The photo is about 100m from where I grew up.



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LeedsLad123
27 December 2015 17:02:15


Any more rainfall totals anyone.


Does anyone have the graph showing the peak level of the River Aire. Last one showed it at 4.34m.


 


 


Originally Posted by: Hungry Tiger 


The river level peaked at over 5.2 meters.


Whitkirk, Leeds - 85m ASL.
Arcus
27 December 2015 17:05:52


Huntington Road on the edge of York is flooded now. The photo is about 100m from where I grew up.


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That area has not flooded since the early/mid 80s Brian - not due to the height of the Ouse, just the failure of the Foss Barrier.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Brian Gaze
27 December 2015 17:09:58


 


That area has not flooded since the early/mid 80s Brian - not due to the height of the Ouse, just the failure of the Foss Barrier.


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


This stretch didn't flood in the early to mid 80s, I lived there until 1988. The Foss flooded along Huntington Road closer to York itself but not at the bottom of Mill Hill (where the photo is taken). 


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David M Porter
27 December 2015 17:14:55


 


This stretch didn't flood in the early to mid 80s, I lived there until 1988. The Foss flooded along Huntington Road closer to York itself but not at the bottom of Mill Hill (where the photo is taken). 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Do you still have family/relations in York, Brian? If so I really hope they haven't been affected by this.


I've been to York many times, mostly during good weather! Beautiful city, and a terrible shame that this flooding is occuring there just now. The same goes for Leeds & Manchester.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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27 December 2015 17:15:10

Here are some stats from the Met Office. Multiple stations in north Wales and north-west England seeing their wettest December on record by some distance and that is before the next major storm mid week which will significantly add to these totals.


That said some of the stations do not have a very long archive of data. However, Newton Rigg has a century of data and has gone way past its previous record.


Stations at height such as Shap and Capel Curig which always receive a lot of rain at this time of year are hundreds of mm above their previous record.


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2015/stormy-end-to-December


As a whole the NW England and Wales region has also recorded its wettest December on record. Total rainfall to 25th December is 226mm. Previous record was 202mm in 1986. This total does not include any rain since 09z yesterday so more to be added plus the next storm in midweek.


The region also recorded its wettest ever December day on Christmas day (09z 25/12 to 09z 26/12) with 39mm beating the previous record for any day in December of 33mm set in 1983.


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadukp/charts/daily_plots/HadNWEP_Dec2015.gif

Arcus
27 December 2015 17:15:14


 


This stretch didn't flood in the early to mid 80s, I lived there until 1988. The Foss flooded along Huntington Road closer to York itself but not at the bottom of Mill Hill (where the photo is taken). 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I remember the Foss flooding badly in 1982 down Huntington Road, didn't realise it was worse than that now further out from the centre.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Arcus
27 December 2015 17:17:45


 


Do you still have family/relations in York, Brian? If so I really hope they haven't been affected by this.


I've been to York many times, mostly during good weather! Beautiful city, and a terrible shame that this flooding is occuring there just now. The same goes for Leeds & Manchester.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


FWIW, we were in York visiting friends today and the town centre is very much open for business. 90% of the population are unaffected, it's just very difficult to get about in town by car as the inner ring road is affected.


Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Super Cell
28 December 2015 00:29:09

A Leeds montage:


 https://www.facebook.com/leedsbible/videos/1673654716250879/


EDIT: was working a few minutes ago but now seems not to!


Farnley/Pudsey Leeds
40m asl

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