Remove ads from site

Chunky Pea
13 June 2018 16:06:49


 


I found the older website a little more user friendly to be honest, but maybe with time I'll get used to the new one. I'm not overly bothered about the colour, to be honest. The only major issue that I have with it is that the rainfall radar history now only goes back a couple of hours whereas it used to go back a good bit further - the longer history was good for letting you see how a rain system was developing etc.


I do think that it's a decent website. It gives good information on recent weather:https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations/yesterday , current conditions,https://www.met.ie/latest-reports/observations and excellent monthly data https://www.met.ie/climate/available-data/monthly-data . It really gives a wealth of information - not sure if you have the equivalent in Scotland or the UK? My only beef is that there's no station really close to me. 


 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


Not a fan of the new website at all. Like yourself, I found the old site much more user friendly and like John, I hate that dark blue colour theme. It's almost invasive. And despite living nowhere near the place, current and recent historical data always reverts back to Dublin, despite entering my own location. 


Current Conditions
https://t.ly/MEYqg 


"You don't have to know anything to have an opinion"
--Roger P, 12/Oct/2022
Whether Idle
13 June 2018 18:30:55

ECM wanting to nudge the yellows back in next week:



Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Arcus
13 June 2018 18:48:44
Phasing of the lows and interaction with the jet is notoriously difficult to resolve on the models at the T+120 plus range, so although we look like having a more unsettled few days I'm not placing too much faith beyond that inter- and intra- run. The propensity for blocking to try and reassert from the Azores is clearly there in the mid to longer term - any "gap in the traffic" could easily set up another long-lasting block.
Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Lionel Hutz
13 June 2018 20:26:30


 


Not a fan of the new website at all. Like yourself, I found the old site much more user friendly and like John, I hate that dark blue colour theme. It's almost invasive. And despite living nowhere near the place, current and recent historical data always reverts back to Dublin, despite entering my own location. 


Originally Posted by: Chunky Pea 


Dublin can be a bit of a bugbear for most of us in the rest of Ireland at times, I think! My location seems to default to Tipperary for some reason.(Sorry, mods, o-t, I know) 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
13 June 2018 20:49:31


 


Dublin can be a bit of a bugbear for most of us in the rest of Ireland at times, I think! My location seems to default to Tipperary for some reason.(Sorry, mods, o-t, I know) 


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


That’s a long way.


Sorry.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Lionel Hutz
14 June 2018 07:41:49


 


That’s a long way.


Sorry.


Originally Posted by: TimS 



https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/ecmwf.aspx?modelrun=na&charthour=24&chartname=mslp500&chartregion=na-region


Signs of the Azores High building northward next week to bring back the settled conditions? 


Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
68m ASL



TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
14 June 2018 18:44:30
So the first over of the new ball passed off with a few hairy moments in Scotland but the last 2 balls were driven beautifully to the cover boundary.

Hoping for some nice cuts and pulls over the next few overs before the field spreads out again.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Whether Idle
14 June 2018 20:45:30

ECM again in the 12zs offers the prospect of a very pleasant week for the southern half at least: With real heat a possibility if this verifies.


Chart image


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
15 June 2018 07:35:31
Things seem to have deteriorated overnight in the models. This is a bit of a rollercoaster.

GEFS now averaging around the mean long term after trending to very warm in yesterday’s runs.

Compare this:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=201&run=0&lid=ENS&bw= 

With yesterday’s 12z:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/show_diagrams.php?geoid=49069&model=gfs&var=201&run=12&lid=ENS&bw= 

ECM is back to its recent tricks of Northwesterly jet borne lows squashing ridging until we end up with a central Atlantic high:

http://www.wetterzentrale.de/en/topkarten.php?map=1&model=ecm&var=2&time=0&run=0&lid=OP&h=0&mv=0&tr=24 

Crossing my fingers for another reversal.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
15 June 2018 13:43:55

JFF, 384z - This would make for a fairly warm day in France:



Brockley, South East London 30m asl
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
15 June 2018 18:30:14
This evenings runs are a tad better again and I’m glad the GFS op is a cool outlier later in the run.

If you’re looking for the definition of a peach though, check out P02 in the GEM ensembles, which brings us August 2003 / June 1976.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Hungry Tiger
16 June 2018 09:50:39


JFF, 384z - This would make for a fairly warm day in France:



Originally Posted by: TimS 


In the south here it wouldn't be too bad either.


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
17 June 2018 05:21:10

Apart from NW Scotland,very little rain in the next couple of weeks generally, and virtually none for the south coast. The storms a couple of weeks back were very local, so in Chichester for instance, the only meaningful rain in the last four weeks was a shower lasting perhaps half an hour, on 31 May. And it looks as if the temperature will be well up, especially in a week or so. Drought warnings ahead!


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/prec4


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4 


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
some faraway beach
17 June 2018 09:13:23
I don't know whether those charts have updated since you posted them, DEW, but the temperature anomaly for the coming week is mostly slightly below average for the British Isles, with little change for the following week.
2 miles west of Taunton, 32 m asl, where "milder air moving in from the west" becomes SNOWMAGEDDON.
Well, two or three times a decade it does, anyway.
Hungry Tiger
17 June 2018 09:32:46

Not too bad at all. Just like the high to shunt a bit further east.


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSP19EU12_174_1.png


 


Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
17 June 2018 11:13:52

I don't know whether those charts have updated since you posted them, DEW, but the temperature anomaly for the coming week is mostly slightly below average for the British Isles, with little change for the following week.

Originally Posted by: some faraway beach 


Yes - they've been updated - and the rainfall pattern is different too, in places (though much the same for here)


Must give up getting up so early


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
17 June 2018 18:05:15
On days like today when I’m feeling particularly summer-is-over, faced with chilly charts and permacast, it’s always a tonic to turn to the GEM ensembles.

P08 this evening gives us an extended mini heatwave next week, then a brief chilly plunge, then June 1976 only hotter with the all time June record smashed on the 30th and 2015’s July record broken 3 years later to the day on the 1st. We can dream.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Jiries
17 June 2018 19:08:08

On days like today when I’m feeling particularly summer-is-over, faced with chilly charts and permacast, it’s always a tonic to turn to the GEM ensembles.

P08 this evening gives us an extended mini heatwave next week, then a brief chilly plunge, then June 1976 only hotter with the all time June record smashed on the 30th and 2015’s July record broken 3 years later to the day on the 1st. We can dream.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


So far no signs of 30C temps as this coming warm spell likely around high 20's so hottest day in April still stand.  Already half way to July and not yet seeing a 30C temps.  Despite no 30C on the forecast it still looking very dry with little rain around.  If that the case I would take it than seeing lot of 30C days then knowing we will have poor summer like last year.  

DEW
  • DEW
  • Advanced Member
18 June 2018 05:41:08


 


So far no signs of 30C temps as this coming warm spell likely around high 20's so hottest day in April still stand.  Already half way to July and not yet seeing a 30C temps.  Despite no 30C on the forecast it still looking very dry with little rain around.  If that the case I would take it than seeing lot of 30C days then knowing we will have poor summer like last year.  


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Nil desperandum: these charts have been updated again and now looking decidedly warm (and a bit wetter) for the second week


http://www.wxmaps.org/pix/temp4


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
18 June 2018 07:04:37
Nice looking ECM this morning. GFS goes pear shaped though. Still awaiting the elusive first 30C.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
speckledjim
18 June 2018 07:27:33
cracking spell of weather coming up....very little rain to speak of
Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Stormchaser
18 June 2018 11:18:03

The situation is very much 'poised' as we head through the second half of June and into early July.


Over the past month, tropical forcing has behaved quite nicely, with well-timed tropical forcing first setting up the long spells of mainly fine weather during May's second half (but with the notable exception of many eastern coasts!) and then mitigating the extent of unsettled conditions and southerly movement of the jet during June so far.


You see, with respect to having settled conditions across the UK, we essentially went from mostly helpful forcing to a mix of helpful and unhelpful forcing. 


 


Now, though, it's 'crunch time', as the unhelpful forcing (i.e. lingering La Nina-like atmospheric tendencies) has an opportunity to take over and send our summer markedly downhill - something a few model runs have explored during the past week. 


However, it just so happens that the state of the tropical Pacific Ocean is undergoing changes toward a more Nino-like state, and this is encouraging more counter-Nina events (such as westerly wind bursts (WWBs) i.e. weakened or reversed trade winds) to manifest compared to what might have been the case. One of those WWB taking place in the next few days will help to move the ridge back east next week after a brief retraction west that owes its occurrence to that Nina-like tendency we'd like to see the back of (unless for whatever reason - e.g. medicinal - you're not a fan of settled summer weather, that is!).


 


Unfortunately, we can't yet be sure that the Nina-like tendency won't fight back again and force the high pressure to locate west of the UK again by next weekend or soon after. GFS/GEFS continues to toy with this idea but ECM/EPS doesn't seem so interested.


This time last year, we were enjoying the fruitful outcomes of some very helpful tropical forcing with the Nina-like tendencies of the preceding winter broken, but then the tropical Pacific Ocean took on a Nina-like pattern, allowing the Nina-like tendencies to recover and then exert a strong enough influence on our weather patterns to steadily deteriorate conditions during July, resulting in a very westerly, changeable August that was uninspiring for the majority. In fact, I can't remember any weather highlights at all between mid-July and early September!


This year, the oceanic trend is in the opposite direction, so there's reason to be optimistic about the July prospects this year, but until if and when we see the La Nina tendencies fail to put up a significant fight during the next lull in helpful, Nino-like forcing (such as the WWBs), it's best to add in 'cautiously' before 'optimistic'. 


 


Basically, it's the ENSO World Cup taking place on a neutral stage, and those who enjoy fine summer weather should throw their support behind El Nino team .


p.s. Come On England! 


If you have any problems or queries relating to TWO you can Email [email protected]

https://twitter.com/peacockreports 
2023's Homeland Extremes:
T-Max: 30.2°C 9th Sep (...!) | T-Min: -7.1°C 22nd & 23rd Jan | Wettest Day: 25.9mm 2nd Nov | Ice Days: 1 (2nd Dec -1.3°C in freezing fog)
Keep Calm and Forecast On
cultman1
18 June 2018 13:21:18
Excellent explanation and like you let’s hope El Nino wins this particular set up !
Hungry Tiger
18 June 2018 14:21:26


 


So far no signs of 30C temps as this coming warm spell likely around high 20's so hottest day in April still stand.  Already half way to July and not yet seeing a 30C temps.  Despite no 30C on the forecast it still looking very dry with little rain around.  If that the case I would take it than seeing lot of 30C days then knowing we will have poor summer like last year.  


Originally Posted by: Jiries 


Amazing the 29.2C in April is still the hottest day of the year - Plenty of time for that to be broken - I have a hunch feeling that April figure could still be begging in August - But sorry to go OT - this summer so far is turning out to be a very nice one. Long may it continue.



Gavin S. FRmetS.
TWO Moderator.
Contact the TWO team - [email protected]
South Cambridgeshire. 93 metres or 302.25 feet ASL.


Joe Bloggs
18 June 2018 16:44:24

g


The situation is very much 'poised' as we head through the second half of June and into early July.


Over the past month, tropical forcing has behaved quite nicely, with well-timed tropical forcing first setting up the long spells of mainly fine weather during May's second half (but with the notable exception of many eastern coasts!) and then mitigating the extent of unsettled conditions and southerly movement of the jet during June so far.


You see, with respect to having settled conditions across the UK, we essentially went from mostly helpful forcing to a mix of helpful and unhelpful forcing. 


 


Now, though, it's 'crunch time', as the unhelpful forcing (i.e. lingering La Nina-like atmospheric tendencies) has an opportunity to take over and send our summer markedly downhill - something a few model runs have explored during the past week. 


However, it just so happens that the state of the tropical Pacific Ocean is undergoing changes toward a more Nino-like state, and this is encouraging more counter-Nina events (such as westerly wind bursts (WWBs) i.e. weakened or reversed trade winds) to manifest compared to what might have been the case. One of those WWB taking place in the next few days will help to move the ridge back east next week after a brief retraction west that owes its occurrence to that Nina-like tendency we'd like to see the back of (unless for whatever reason - e.g. medicinal - you're not a fan of settled summer weather, that is!).


 


Unfortunately, we can't yet be sure that the Nina-like tendency won't fight back again and force the high pressure to locate west of the UK again by next weekend or soon after. GFS/GEFS continues to toy with this idea but ECM/EPS doesn't seem so interested.


This time last year, we were enjoying the fruitful outcomes of some very helpful tropical forcing with the Nina-like tendencies of the preceding winter broken, but then the tropical Pacific Ocean took on a Nina-like pattern, allowing the Nina-like tendencies to recover and then exert a strong enough influence on our weather patterns to steadily deteriorate conditions during July, resulting in a very westerly, changeable August that was uninspiring for the majority. In fact, I can't remember any weather highlights at all between mid-July and early September!


This year, the oceanic trend is in the opposite direction, so there's reason to be optimistic about the July prospects this year, but until if and when we see the La Nina tendencies fail to put up a significant fight during the next lull in helpful, Nino-like forcing (such as the WWBs), it's best to add in 'cautiously' before 'optimistic'. 


 


Basically, it's the ENSO World Cup taking place on a neutral stage, and those who enjoy fine summer weather should throw their support behind El Nino team .


p.s. Come On England! 


Originally Posted by: Stormchaser 


Brilliant post James - thanks so much for the insight. :) 


12z GFS and MetO rolling out and the output is bloody brilliant.


High pressure slap bang across the UK into the mid range with sunshine and warmth for most if not all. Increasingly hot too I would have thought. 


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPEU12_144_1.png


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/UKMOPEU12_144_1.png



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Remove ads from site

Ads