I agree with you - some of the things she has said have certainly raised an eyebrow. 

Originally Posted by: John p 

I never said she wasn’t bright, I also never said that I was brighter than her. That doesn’t mean I don’t consider her a nodding donkey.

I seem to remember you calling me out for calling Hancock a slime ball. Seems, that a few posters agree with me today on that front as well.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

That's a very demeaning and uncalled for comment. She's a darn sight brighter than you mister.  

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

I like her - she always tries to give a straight answer. 

Unlike some politicians, scientists   don't tend to get to elevated positions unless they know what they are on about.

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

I never said she wasn’t bright, I also never said that I was brighter than her. That doesn’t mean I don’t consider her a nodding donkey.

I seem to remember you calling me out for calling Hancock a slime ball. Seems, that a few posters agree with me today on that front as well.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Frankly I find a lot of this name calling (not you exclusively by any means), both boring and incredibly immature, but if you want to draw me into it, you have a habit of agreeing with quite a lot of posts without adding any content - that would be my definition of a nodding donkey.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Name calling public figures that none of us know personally is very different to directly insulting members of this forum. I find that post outrageous. 
Sadly I know I can now expect an insult coming my way too. 🙁

Originally Posted by: John p 

Well you'd be very wrong. Pray tell me what insult am I guilty of?

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

I cannot understand why there are attempts to censure opinions today? No one is being overly profane? Merely an opinion is expressed, most often with a decent reason why and that goes for both sides of the debate.

Unless it is needlessly offensive or blatantly untrue what is the issue? Mountains and molehills come to mind. We're adults debating a very divisive topic that deeply affects all of us - I think we need to take stock for a moment and count to ten 🙂

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Is calling someone a nodding donkey not an insult?

Is Doc a ‘nodding donkey’, due to him agreeing with a post and not adding any content (a few posts up)?

Originally Posted by: John p 

I cannot understand why there are attempts to censure opinions today? No one is being overly profane? Merely an opinion is expressed (at times quite strongly), often with a decent reason why and that goes for both sides of the debate.

Unless it is needlessly offensive or blatantly untrue what is the issue? Mountains and molehills come to mind. We're adults debating a very divisive topic that deeply affects all of us - I think we need to take stock for a moment and count to ten 🙂

Originally Posted by: SJV 

Steve I'm not censuring...I'm not moderating....I'm not deleting any posts. I just expressed a personal opinion which seems to have upset a few in here. Hey ho - ruffled feathers and all that.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Steve I'm not censuring...I'm not moderating....I'm not deleting any posts. I just expressed a personal opinion which seems to have upset a few in here. Hey ho - ruffled feathers and all that.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Frankly I find a lot of this name calling (not you exclusively by any means), both boring and incredibly immature, but if you want to draw me into it, you have a habit of agreeing with quite a lot of posts without adding any content - that would be my definition of a nodding donkey.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

For the record, I’m only carrying this on because you’ve asked me to but:

If you are seriously saying this:

“but if you want to draw me into it, you have a habit of agreeing with quite a lot of posts without adding any content - that would be my definition of a nodding donkey.”

Was not aimed at Mark, then I’d say you should have been a politician (maybe you were?)

Originally Posted by: John p 

Thanks John. My issue is she seems to go with the government line. Sometimes when she talks through the slides it’s like we are looking at something different. 

Also, her advice on mass gatherings was a total joke.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Here is a question for teachers - if June is so bad for some classes going back, why is September going to be any better?

There still won't be the possibility of mass vaccination by then, so we will still be living with the virus just as we are now going into the autumn.

If anything, the summer months, when it is warmer and there is more outdoor activity, would be a better time to be at school.

The other thing which puzzles me is some authorities getting uptight about people being on beaches - I would have thought a beach was the last place where you could pick up the virus, being outdoors with onshore breezes - perfect place for people to relax without anxiety.

There appears to be an element of mass hysteria about corona virus.

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 

Name calling public figures that none of us know personally is very different to directly insulting members of this forum. I find that post outrageous. 

Doc has just agreed to a post without adding any content. Is he a nodding donkey too?
Sadly I know I can now expect an insult coming my way too. 🙁

Originally Posted by: John p 

No I didn't.

What I said as you full know was, " Check through all of the forums and find one incidence where I have ever insulted a poster and let me know" .....which you couldn't.

Anyway enough of this pointless discussion. You, a couple of other members and of course Mark have your own views. I have a different one. Let's leave it there.

Originally Posted by: llamedos 

Would it have been better for me to tend to verbosity and explain in lots of words why I agree with Chris’s post?

As for your question Maunder, why not just open up everything now? If it is safe for lots of little kids day after day in a confined space then it is safe in the Tube and without a doubt in every national park. June is “bad” as few effective risk assessments and management are in place. The infrastructure is not there, by August/September the virus will either have died down even more or, if it it is not heading in that direction, there will be sufficient time for the massive measures which would be needed for safe and effective schools operations.

It is nit hysteria, I know the risk and even if I am not at high risk I don’t want to support any measure that puts the more vulnerable at higher risk.

Originally Posted by: doctormog