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Matty H
12 August 2020 11:35:29


 


Yes, even areas like Bristol are joining in the heat today. It feels more humid out there today. We had a short torrential downpour last night, and some shady areas are still damp from it. That might slow down temperature rises in this area. 


Jiries- if only you still had your legendary shed in Surrey. I wonder what temperatures it would have measured this week!?


Originally Posted by: GezM 


 


We’ve passed 30c here in South Glos just north of Bristol on each of the last 3 days. We are already at 31c here which will make it 4 on the bounce. Prior to this it was on the fringe of 30c as well


Rob K
12 August 2020 11:38:57

Just passed 31C at Blackbushe, up 0.7C in 35 mins and still only the barest wisp of cirrus. A hazier look to the sky generally than yesterday though.


 


Webcam could be somewhere on the African plains... https://www.blackbusheairport.co.uk/weather/


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
SJV
12 August 2020 11:44:50
Hot and hazy sunshine here. Very sultry at 27C and a dewpoint of 21C. Humidity at 70%.
Brian Gaze
12 August 2020 11:45:22

Looks like the heat might have got to Brian's servers, very slow loading at the moment.

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Not aware of any problems this morning. Traffic has been record breaking during the last 24 hours but things seem to be ticking over quite nicely. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
12 August 2020 11:49:51


 


Not aware of any problems this morning. Traffic has been record breaking during the last 24 hours but things seem to be ticking over quite nicely. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Like even compared to winter 2010, or June 2016?!


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
12 August 2020 11:52:37


 


Like even compared to winter 2010, or June 2016?!


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Miles and miles ahead of winter 2010. Summers always generate more traffic than winters.


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Berkhamsted
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Quantum
12 August 2020 11:56:08


 


Miles and miles ahead of winter 2010. Summers always generate more traffic than winters.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I think you said that before but I always forget.


Comes with being in the cold rampers bubble.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
warrenb
12 August 2020 11:56:58
33c here now
Retron
12 August 2020 11:57:33

I have a shed, I could put a thermometer in it this afternoon.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Thermometer and webcam is the way to go!



25.0C in there at the moment (and 25.1C outside, under cloud).


Leysdown, north Kent
Brian Gaze
12 August 2020 11:58:56


 


I think you said that before but I always forget.


Comes with being in the cold rampers bubble.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Over the years a number of people have asked me about setting up a weather website. I've told them summers generate more traffic and revenue than winters but I suspect many think I was feeding them with rubbish. Probably because they were snow rampers. Nonetheless, it is the absolute truth. The last week has generated more traffic than December 2010 in its entirety. 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Quantum
12 August 2020 12:02:08


 


Over the years a number of people have asked me about setting up a weather website. I've told them summers generate more traffic and revenue than winters but I suspect many think I was feeding them with rubbish. Probably because they were snow rampers. Nonetheless, it is the absolute truth. The last week has generated more traffic than December 2010 in its entirety. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Its very easy to naively extrapolate your own personal echo chamber. TWO forum members are cold rampers in their overwhelming majority, easy to forget that site viewers and the public at large are warm rampers not cold rampers.


Also I suspect the UIA stuff which feels like it generates alot of activity probably didn't even register in your overall traffic?


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
TimS
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12 August 2020 12:07:29


 


Its very easy to naively extrapolate your own personal echo chamber. TWO forum members are cold rampers in their overwhelming majority, easy to forget that site viewers and the public at large are warm rampers not cold rampers.


Also I suspect the UIA stuff which feels like it generates alot of activity probably didn't even register in your overall traffic?


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Given the media is always telling me I'm a remoaning metropolitan liberal who is out of touch with the will of the people, it's reassuring to know that in this one small area at least, I am squarely on side with the average British punter. Summer is so much more interesting than winter.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Jiries
12 August 2020 12:09:20


 


Yes, even areas like Bristol are joining in the heat today. It feels more humid out there today. We had a short torrential downpour last night, and some shady areas are still damp from it. That might slow down temperature rises in this area. 


Jiries- if only you still had your legendary shed in Surrey. I wonder what temperatures it would have measured this week!?


Originally Posted by: GezM 


I don't have it now as I moved to Galley Common near Nuneaton and no shed in the N facing garden but plan to put log cabin next year.  Now 31C in here.

Phil G
12 August 2020 12:09:32
Interesting as at 12.38 xcweather has the top temperature as 32c shared by Cambridge and six airports. Gloucester, Gatwick, Heathrow, Luton, Stansted and London City.
Okay, if the airports are the hottest places but with the above does make you wonder if these man made sites are really suitable in real terms.
Rob K
12 August 2020 12:11:00

Interesting as at 12.38 xcweather has the top temperature as 32c shared by Cambridge and six airports. Gloucester, Gatwick, Heathrow, Luton, Stansted and London City.
Okay, if the airports are the hottest places but with the above does make you wonder if these man made sites are really suitable in real terms.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Sites as far apart as Herstmonceux and Pershore are currently recording over 32C and they are pretty rural. And also show how widespread the heat is.


I suspect the only reason the airports were showing as higher is because it is generally airports that generate the half hourly METARs, so they will always be a step ahead.


 


32.1 at Blackbushe currently, which although it is an airport is not exactly a UHI, being mostly grass with a couple of runways, one small car park and two small terminal buildings.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
idj20
12 August 2020 12:11:18


 


Over the years a number of people have asked me about setting up a weather website. I've told them summers generate more traffic and revenue than winters but I suspect many think I was feeding them with rubbish. Probably because they were snow rampers. Nonetheless, it is the absolute truth. The last week has generated more traffic than December 2010 in its entirety. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 



Could it be because in 2010 Wi-Fi technology was relatively new with slow 2g internet and everything were viewed on the device's own browser (the proper way ) so it was mainly destkop-based as viewing the internet on a PC was faster then. Nowadays practically everyone owns a smartphone who can easily view the TWO app on fast & cheap 4G internet so word about this site is spread about more easily.

Anyway, back to the matter in hand, the sun is coming out now and temps are slowly creeping up to 24.6 c (77% h) when it was 23.3 c 15 mins ago, all down on this time yesterday where I managed a peak of 31.9 at 1.30 pm.


Folkestone Harbour. 
Quantum
12 August 2020 12:12:54

Interesting as at 12.38 xcweather has the top temperature as 32c shared by Cambridge and six airports. Gloucester, Gatwick, Heathrow, Luton, Stansted and London City.
Okay, if the airports are the hottest places but with the above does make you wonder if these man made sites are really suitable in real terms.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I suppose it depends what you want when it comes to temperature measurments.


You could argue the urban heat island is unsuitable because it artificially modifies the temp, but I don't think anyone would suggest getting rid of all urban sites. Airports definitely push that line further. Miniture heat islands caused by tarmaced surfaces. Perhaps they should have an asterix like mountain sites do.


Then again these are the environments people live in (not airports, but similar heat islands in urban environments) so perhaps these temperatures are relevant to people's experiences in a way cairngorm summit is not (and is more a meterological curiosity).


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
TimS
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  • Advanced Member
12 August 2020 12:16:44

Interesting as at 12.38 xcweather has the top temperature as 32c shared by Cambridge and six airports. Gloucester, Gatwick, Heathrow, Luton, Stansted and London City.
Okay, if the airports are the hottest places but with the above does make you wonder if these man made sites are really suitable in real terms.

Originally Posted by: Phil G 


I think this is just a feature of which sites publish half hourly SYNOP readings automatically. The majority of those locations that feature on XCWeather are airfields. Many of them are very rural, little more than one strip of runway surrounded by fields. Not "airports" in the sense you might be thinking of. The non-airport sites, many of which end up posting the daily UK max, don't report half hourly but just give daily max-mins.


XCWeather is, after all, a site for glider pilots. Essentially it's not surprising that a site publishing weather reports from a base of mainly airfields ends up showing the highest temps at airpot sites.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
redmoons
12 August 2020 12:17:58
33.2c @ 1pm feeling very steamy outside,

Looks unlikely to get to 36 or 37c as its slowed down a lot, clouds are starting to bubble up to the west.
Andrew,
Watford
ASL 35m
http://weather.andrewlalchan.co.uk 





Rob K
12 August 2020 12:18:55

Remember Herstmonceux was the UK hot spot twice in the past few days. Hardly a UHI is it? Although if this location is the weather station it does look extremely sheltered by trees and high hedges.



Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Phil G
12 August 2020 12:19:10


 


I think this is just a feature of which sites publish half hourly SYNOP readings automatically. The majority of those locations that feature on XCWeather are airfields. Many of them are very rural, little more than one strip of runway surrounded by fields. Not "airports" in the sense you might be thinking of. The non-airport sites, many of which end up posting the daily UK max, don't report half hourly but just give daily max-mins.


XCWeather is, after all, a site for glider pilots. Essentially it's not surprising that a site publishing weather reports from a base of mainly airfields ends up showing the highest temps at airpot sites.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


I was just thinking that with so many aircraft related sites monitored. Add Mildenhall Royal Air Force Base to the highest temps at 33c at 1.08pm.

Rob K
12 August 2020 12:26:09
32.6C currently at the concrete metropolis* of Blackbushe airport

* grass and heathland with three small runways. The Blackbushe weather station is 100m asl and usually a degree or two cooler than nearby official stations, so I wouldn't be surprised if Farnborough is well above 33 by now.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Matty H
12 August 2020 12:29:18


 


Miles and miles ahead of winter 2010. Summers always generate more traffic than winters.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Makes perfect sense. Normal people buzz about summer weather not about feeling cold and miserable 


redmoons
12 August 2020 12:31:20
Lots of places at 33c with top being Luton airport
Andrew,
Watford
ASL 35m
http://weather.andrewlalchan.co.uk 





TimS
  • TimS
  • Advanced Member
12 August 2020 12:32:00


I was just thinking that with so many aircraft related sites monitored. Add Mildenhall Royal Air Force Base to the highest temps at 33c at 1.08pm.


Originally Posted by: Phil G 


Landuse definitely makes a difference to daytime temperatures - not UHI per se (UHI is largely a nocturnal phenomenon and is most pronounced in city centres rather than places like airports), and I the fact is airports are generally open areas, there are not so many trees around and as they are often low altitude and flat they are more likely to be in arable zones, all of which lend themselves to lower humidity, larger diurnal ranges and high daily maxes.


Essentially everywhere on the world's surface other than true wilderness areas (and nowhere in the UK) the climate is influenced by human landuse change. Deforestation in the tropics is probably the extreme example, where whole regional climates can be affected. As a species we have changed the land cover, topography, humidity, albedo, and soil moisture of vast swathes of the continental land masses. It means that, even before we consider greenhouse gases, all temperature readings in the British isles are arguably artificial, even in somewhere like Aviemore or Altnaharra.


 


Brockley, South East London 30m asl

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