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Gooner
25 January 2021 16:44:08

was literally about to say - the Icon gives Leeds and Pennine areas pretty much non stop snow from tomorrow til Friday

Pretty incredible, some areas are going to see some off the scale snow amounts, if the winds blow, expect to see some very impressive snow drifts

(If Icon is correct that is...)

Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


And massively different to what the Beeb think and the Met 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Russwirral
25 January 2021 16:47:44


 


And massively different to what the Beeb think and the Met 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


If youve seen the beeb video forecasts over the past day or so  theres been some definite hints of this situation developing. 


 


When ever they say a battleground is forming... says theres some wiggle room in their forecast


Whether Idle
25 January 2021 16:54:38

Well, Im sticking with my contention that GEM has this pattern nailed, for me, run of the winter so far and the fun starts at 144.  As I have consistently said, HP to our N/NE will be the controlling influence before the end of January.  UKMO looks to be changing its tune in GEM's direction too, although bottles it at 144.


Essentially anything can happen after 120 and FI is close, but wishfully-thinking, GEM is on it. Undercutting, a STJ and highs to the N seem the way things should go


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
ballamar
25 January 2021 16:55:49
Hints of a Feb 91 on the GFS op this evening obviously will change but nice to see
Rob K
25 January 2021 16:57:00


ICON 12z looks about right for the north...




 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


I shouldn't laugh but that's pretty amazing. Has the whole of Aberdeen been fitted with underground heating?


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Gooner
25 January 2021 16:57:01


 


 


If youve seen the beeb video forecasts over the past day or so  theres been some definite hints of this situation developing. 


 


When ever they say a battleground is forming... says theres some wiggle room in their forecast


Originally Posted by: Russwirral 


Not on todays forecasts , not even a mention from Thomas Sch whereas as Nick Miller yesterday was a tad cautious 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Whether Idle
25 January 2021 16:59:38


 


I shouldn't laugh but that's pretty amazing. Has the whole of Aberdeen been fitted with underground heating?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Its the force-field generated by Richard


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Ally Pally Snowman
25 January 2021 17:00:23

Stunning GEM,  shows what the smallest amount of heights just to our north can do. Sliders and then an snowy easterly. 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Whether Idle
25 January 2021 17:01:32


Stunning GEM,  shows what the smallest amount of heights just to our north can do. Sliders and then an snowy easterly. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


It seems the logical progression IF the high to the N can hold at 120/144.


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Rob K
25 January 2021 17:01:32

Hints of a Feb 91 on the GFS op this evening obviously will change but nice to see

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Feb 1991 only had 1045mb over Scandinavia.



 



 


GFS goes for 1055mb



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tallyho_83
25 January 2021 17:02:30

Hints of a Feb 91 on the GFS op this evening obviously will change but nice to see

Originally Posted by: ballamar 


Just what the south would want for sustained cold and guaranteed snow: - The issue with the last easterly early January was that it was very slack and too far west  -ie over North sea and Scandinavia wasn't cold enough but now it is and if we get a chart like this - then we could be in for some seriously cold weather - origins of air comes from the Urals - if this came off but i am just comparing the 12z run with the 06z run and i see there is a substantial flip:


Let's just hope it isn't a cold outlier and or this is continued in the para/control as well as in the 18z run later:


All in FI rang but contrasting purposes only - either way both look cold!


06z @ 342z



 


12z @ 336:



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Ally Pally Snowman
25 January 2021 17:05:00


 


It seems the logical progression IF the high to the N can hold at 120/144.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Yes definitely looks plausible certainly over GFS February 1986 redux.


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Saint Snow
25 January 2021 17:05:27

Both Icon and GEM keep the snow away from the Merseyside/Manchester conurbation (barring some areas round Manchester with elevation)


Not happy.



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Tom Oxon
25 January 2021 17:05:41


Stunning GEM,  shows what the smallest amount of heights just to our north can do. Sliders and then an snowy easterly. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


Yes, but I feel these scenarios are a perpetual jam tomorrow at the moment, can't get them out of T168+.


S Warwickshire countryside, c.375ft asl.
ballamar
25 January 2021 17:07:03


 


Feb 1991 only had 1045mb over Scandinavia.



 



 


GFS goes for 1055mb



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


if it came off could be better and looks like a northern reload. Perhaps would could get luck with the effects of a topsy turvy atmosphere

tallyho_83
25 January 2021 17:07:31


 


Feb 1991 only had 1045mb over Scandinavia.



 



 


GFS goes for 1055mb



Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Low pressure over southern Europe and HP over Scandinavia = air coming in from the URals - not easy way out of that but that's a chart to bank and will give proper sustained cold and longer lasting snow too.


Compared to 18th February 2018:



 


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Whether Idle
25 January 2021 17:07:47


 


 


Yes, but I feel these scenarios are a perpetual jam tomorrow at the moment, can't get them out of T168+.


Originally Posted by: Tom Oxon 


The heavy lifting on the GEM is at 120/144, still way too early*  but encouraging.  (*Rather large model divergence in evidence at 144 this evening.) 


Dover, 5m asl. Half a mile from the south coast.
Saint Snow
25 January 2021 17:07:55


Both Icon and GEM keep the snow away from the Merseyside/Manchester conurbation (barring some areas round Manchester with elevation)


Not happy.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Although GEM 168-192 would be fun.



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hobensotwo
25 January 2021 17:10:03
True beast in the offing, during the later stages of the gfs 12z.
Been a while since we had one of them in early Feb.
tallyho_83
25 January 2021 17:12:33

Para goes for a southerly tracking low on 30th:


But looks like a cold rain event?



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Ally Pally Snowman
25 January 2021 17:12:48


 


 


Yes, but I feel these scenarios are a perpetual jam tomorrow at the moment, can't get them out of T168+.


Originally Posted by: Tom Oxon 


 


As WI has said the important bit is at 120h. But I'd agree it's an outside bet at the moment.  We could do with the ECM showing something similar later.


 


Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
Rob K
25 January 2021 17:20:17


Para goes for a southerly tracking low on 30th:


But looks like a cold rain event?



Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


The para does give a bit of snow to the SW on the 30th and then again on the 31st.


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
tallyho_83
25 January 2021 17:25:56


 


The para does give a bit of snow to the SW on the 30th and then again on the 31st.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Argh yes I see that now and then turns back to rain - i am not use to using meteo site as yet - sure I will in due course.


Finally - JFF we see the BFTE - he looks scary doesn't he with purple eyes?



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hobensotwo
25 January 2021 17:31:03


 


Argh yes I see that now and then turns back to rain - i am not use to using meteo site as yet - sure I will in due course.


Finally - JFF we see the BFTE - he looks scary doesn't he with purple eyes?



Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Lovely view that, well and truly blocked. With PV almost split. I think that would have legs if verified. Sadly a 1 in 10 shot at best you would have thought.

Brian Gaze
25 January 2021 17:48:44

CMC looks very snowy at a quick glance.


https://www.theweatheroutlook.com/twodata/gem.aspx?run=12&charthour=180&chartname=ukpreciptyperatec&chartregion=uk&charttag=Precip%20type%20rate


 



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