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ChrisJG
22 June 2021 09:19:11
Sorry for the slightly OTP but can anyone point me in the direction of where I may find month to date stats on rainfall? Its been incredibly dry here in Cumbria and I'm intrigued to see where this month sits compared to others.
Thanks all in advance!
Home - near Penrith 150m ASL
Work - North/Central Cumbria
DEW
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22 June 2021 10:03:44

Sorry for the slightly OTP but can anyone point me in the direction of where I may find month to date stats on rainfall? Its been incredibly dry here in Cumbria and I'm intrigued to see where this month sits compared to others.
Thanks all in advance!

Originally Posted by: ChrisJG 


Try http://rp5.co.uk/Weather_in_Keswick and enter your preferred location


War does not determine who is right, only who is left - Bertrand Russell

Chichester 12m asl
overland
22 June 2021 10:30:20


 


But don't forget to balance your thoughts with the fact that Scotland and parts of Northern England have had a sunny, dry and warmish June


Edinburgh's mean temperature as of yesterday is +0.7, Rainfall is only 20% and sunshine already 90%


Originally Posted by: Crepuscular Ray 


 


This equally applies to parts of Wales. We had two days of drizzle about 2 weeks ago when large parts of the country were sunny, but otherwise it's been dry with plenty of sunshine. 


Mumbles, Swansea. 80m asl
idj20
22 June 2021 10:39:31

In defence of Moomin and his famed ark, the 06z GFS and even latest ICON run are showing an absolutely dire soakfest of a weekend for us SE collective. Of course it is a long way off and not all the models are showing the same thing.  


Folkestone Harbour. 
ChrisJG
22 June 2021 10:51:01


 


Try http://rp5.co.uk/Weather_in_Keswick and enter your preferred location


Originally Posted by: DEW 


 


That's brilliant. Thanks for that Dew. The nearest station I can find to me with an archive was Shap (where it always rains!) and they've recorded 6.8mm but I'll have a proper look later.


Thanks again.


Home - near Penrith 150m ASL
Work - North/Central Cumbria
moomin75
22 June 2021 12:10:39

Moomin!

Your reverse psychology is being taken to extremes, posting hyperbolic hysteria at 4am.

Originally Posted by: Downpour 


It was 5am actually as Brian's forum works on GMT!!!


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Taylor1740
22 June 2021 12:23:02
At least for once it has been the SE getting the worst of the weather (sorry). Looks like Saturday I might just be on the Northern edge of the rain but plenty of time for that to change.
NW Leeds - 150m amsl
GezM
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22 June 2021 12:34:44


 This equally applies to parts of Wales. We had two days of drizzle about 2 weeks ago when large parts of the country were sunny, but otherwise it's been dry with plenty of sunshine. 


Originally Posted by: overland 


Despite my complaints in the moaning thread, I'm actually pleased for other parts of the UK. Recent summers have tended to over-favour the south east of England so a bit of redressing the balance is overdue. The Met Office monthly summary maps for June will certainly be interesting to look at! 


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Working at Luton Airport, Beds (160m asl)
moomin75
22 June 2021 16:48:48


In defence of Moomin and his famed ark, the 06z GFS and even latest ICON run are showing an absolutely dire soakfest of a weekend for us SE collective. Of course it is a long way off and not all the models are showing the same thing.  


Originally Posted by: idj20 

Looking at UKMO, GEM and GFS for this weekend, I am definitely getting my Ark ready. Looks like an absolutely awful weekend coming up (AGAIN)!!!


ECM is constantly out on its own and I am certain it will back down soon.


A very disturbed miserable pattern for the Southern half of England for the foreseeable future. Definitely starting to feel like 2012 revisited.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
bledur
22 June 2021 17:28:38


Looking at UKMO, GEM and GFS for this weekend, I am definitely getting my Ark ready. Looks like an absolutely awful weekend coming up (AGAIN)!!!


ECM is constantly out on its own and I am certain it will back down soon.


A very disturbed miserable pattern for the Southern half of England for the foreseeable future. Definitely starting to feel like 2012 revisited.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


 It looks like high pressure will establish over the whole country next week after a very showery weekend and early next week. A north south split but not the typical one.

moomin75
22 June 2021 17:30:45


 


 It looks like high pressure will establish over the whole country next week after a very showery weekend and early next week. A north south split but not the typical one.


Originally Posted by: bledur 

Yes, this i agree with. A north/south split indeed, with good weather to the north and a rainfest for the south. All very 2012.


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
TimS
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22 June 2021 17:31:43

The old trough of despond certainly hangs around on both UKMO and GFS this evening. Finally departs GFS on 3rd July after pootling about in the Channel then the North sea for a week. GFS is thankfully a cool outlier on the ensembles though not a wet outlier - there are 14 spikes on London rain row above 10mm on the ENS so far.


GEM kicks the trough out earlier - it's melted in situ in the channel by 30th June, just in time for the changing month. ICON still has it over Southern England on the 30th but looking fairly weak.


What we all used to call a shortwave I suppose. A very pesky one.  


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
doctormog
22 June 2021 17:32:16


Yes, this i agree with. A north/south split indeed, with good weather to the north and a rainfest for the south. All very 2012.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Not really, as summer 2012 was rubbish up here too.


moomin75
22 June 2021 17:39:00


 


Not really, as summer 2012 was rubbish up here too.


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Maybe 2007 then???


Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
ozone_aurora
22 June 2021 18:23:27


Maybe 2007 then???


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


1968 certainly was.


It had a potential to be a good summer but frequently there were low pressures that kept lingering in the south, giving a wet summer there. The N/S split became even more enhanced in September, culminating in severe floods in the Thames basin.


Some colossal thunderstorms also occurred on the 1st (especially Wales), ending a short heatwave. 

ozone_aurora
22 June 2021 18:27:14

GFS looks a little like July 1965 (or 1962?).

Bow Echo
22 June 2021 18:45:10



1968 certainly was.


It had a potential to be a good summer but frequently there were low pressures that kept lingering in the south, giving a wet summer there. The N/S split became even more enhanced in September, culminating in severe floods in the Thames basin.


Some colossal thunderstorms also occurred on the 1st (especially Wales), ending a short heatwave. 


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Ahh 1968. After the Winter of 62/3  that year settled me off on a career in meteorology!! 2nd July 1968 in my hometown of Otley, Yorks is incised in my memory. There had been tremendous storms the day before but the grandaddy was the 2nd. 11 am and it went completely black. i dont mean dark I mean black. even with all the lights off it was black. The the lighning, the derecho winds and the hail. Never seen a storm like it before or since, and I've lived in the tropics. Our teacher burst into tears and a boy was running round the playground screaming it was the end of the world! Brilliant storm!!


 


Steve D. FRMetS
Burton Latimer, Kettering, Northants


doctormog
22 June 2021 18:54:55


Maybe 2007 then???


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


No, that was poor here too. 


 


Sevendust
22 June 2021 18:56:34


 


Ahh 1968. After the Winter of 62/3  that year settled me off on a career in meteorology!! 2nd July 1968 in my hometown of Otley, Yorks is incised in my memory. There had been tremendous storms the day before but the grandaddy was the 2nd. 11 am and it went completely black. i dont mean dark I mean black. even with all the lights off it was black. The the lighning, the derecho winds and the hail. Never seen a storm like it before or since, and I've lived in the tropics. Our teacher burst into tears and a boy was running round the playground screaming it was the end of the world! Brilliant storm!!


 


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


 I've seen some accounts of that event. Sounds utterly biblical 

Tim A
22 June 2021 19:29:56


 


Ahh 1968. After the Winter of 62/3  that year settled me off on a career in meteorology!! 2nd July 1968 in my hometown of Otley, Yorks is incised in my memory. There had been tremendous storms the day before but the grandaddy was the 2nd. 11 am and it went completely black. i dont mean dark I mean black. even with all the lights off it was black. The the lighning, the derecho winds and the hail. Never seen a storm like it before or since, and I've lived in the tropics. Our teacher burst into tears and a boy was running round the playground screaming it was the end of the world! Brilliant storm!!


 


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


One of the parents of the primary school I went to in the early 90's told us of an event when they were young at the same school in Calverley. Dark as night,  hair standing on end, massive hail, loud thunder, everyone hiding under desks. Didn't really believe them at the time but could have well been this event. 


Tim
NW Leeds
187m asl

 My PWS 
TimS
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22 June 2021 19:39:54

Northern blocking, slow moving troughs over the channel delivering copious precipitation… what if it were January?


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
scillydave
22 June 2021 20:42:34


 


Ahh 1968. After the Winter of 62/3  that year settled me off on a career in meteorology!! 2nd July 1968 in my hometown of Otley, Yorks is incised in my memory. There had been tremendous storms the day before but the grandaddy was the 2nd. 11 am and it went completely black. i dont mean dark I mean black. even with all the lights off it was black. The the lighning, the derecho winds and the hail. Never seen a storm like it before or since, and I've lived in the tropics. Our teacher burst into tears and a boy was running round the playground screaming it was the end of the world! Brilliant storm!!


 


Originally Posted by: Bow Echo 


 


Wikipedia has a good little write up on this....


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1968_United_Kingdom_thunderstorms


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Formerly of, Birdlip, highest village in the Cotswolds and snow heaven in winter; Hawkinge in Kent - roof of the South downs and Isles of Scilly, paradise in the UK.
Crepuscular Ray
22 June 2021 21:08:52


 


 


Wikipedia has a good little write up on this....


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_1968_United_Kingdom_thunderstorms


Originally Posted by: scillydave 


Bow! I witnessed the same storm, I was at Junior School in Yeadon, the area was wrecked with giant hail and to see day darkness was so frightening.


My family and friends will never forget that day


The large hail affected a swaithe from West Mids all the way up to NE England


The thunderstorms on the 1st were bad enough!


Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Crepuscular Ray
22 June 2021 21:17:37


The July 1968 United Kingdom thunderstorms were the most severe dust fall thunderstorms in the British Isles for over 200 years.[1] A layer of mineral dust blowing north from the Sahara met cold, wet air over the British Isles, resulting in thick, dense clouds and severe thunderstorms across most of England and Wales. These clouds completely blotted out the light in some areas and the rain and hail resulted in property damage and flooding, and at least

The storms resulted in at least four fatalities. Three people were struck by lightning – a 72-year-old woman in Northallerton, a 14-year-old girl in Oldham, and an unnamed woman in Hampsthwaite – while an 80-year-old man drowned in flooding in Welshpool.[2][3][9] Hail broke windows and dented cars across a wide swathe of the country, and damage was reported at both Cardiff Airport and RAF Chivenor. At Yeadon, West Yorkshire, the accumulated hail piled 450 millimetres (18 in) deep, and in parts of Yorkshire the ice was so severe that roads had to be cleared with bulldozers.[5]

Bradford saw severe flooding on 2 July, with many streets in the centre left underwater, as did the Isle of Man.[10][11] The Met Office noted that many rivers across the West Country and the Midlands burst their banks, and said that every town and village in Devon was flooded, with damage to property and crops assessed as "a major disaster".[12] The summer of 1968 would prove to be one of the worst ever recorded for flooding in the UK, with further storms causing the Chew Stoke flood of 1968 just a week later and the Great Flood of 1968 that September, and would not be equalled until the 2007 floods.[13]

In the wake of the storm, a number of normally rare African and Southern European insects were reported across England, having been blown across with the Saharan dust


Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill
Crepuscular Ray
22 June 2021 21:18:48
Sorry off topic but the wikipedia report mentions hail 18 deep, I have photos!
Jerry
Edinburgh, in the frost hollow below Blackford Hill

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