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Brian Gaze
24 July 2018 20:39:58

Things look a bit more uncertain tonight. Extreme heat (35C or higher) looks likely on Thursday and Friday and we may get another go during the first week of August. Onwards...


 


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Rob K
24 July 2018 20:45:42
xioni2 posted in last thread:

"For fans of extreme heat, the EC ens has 5-6 perturbations for 4-5 Aug with >20C at 850mb and 2 runs with ~25C at 850 (>40C in SE England).

I guess a 10% risk of extreme heat sounds reasonable at this stage."

In terms of 2m temps, the ECM ensembles for London peak at 37.1C on Aug 3rd (ensemble mean is only 27.8C though).

https://weather.us/forecast/2643743-london/ensemble/euro 

Surprised they don't go higher than that if there are really >25C 850s.

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The Beast from the East
24 July 2018 20:47:24
Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!
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Rob K
24 July 2018 20:58:11

Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Seems a strange thing to say when the ensembles suggest that the most prolonged heat is yet to come, after a brief cool-down next week.


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Polar Low
24 July 2018 20:59:55

Very much so keep your deicer handy


Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 

Heavy Weather 2013
24 July 2018 21:10:15

Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Somthing Ironic that much cooler is around 25C!


Looks probable that August could be a record breaker.


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roadrunnerajn
24 July 2018 21:24:55

Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


I hope not... 10 months of drizzle is not a nice thought...🙄


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Sevendust
24 July 2018 21:25:47

Looking much cooler after Friday thank god. Hopefully that’s it for summer!

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 Takes all sorts! 


 

White Meadows
24 July 2018 21:26:19


 


Seems a strange thing to say when the ensembles suggest that the most prolonged heat is yet to come, after a brief cool-down next week.


Originally Posted by: Rob K 

yes it’s a very odd & misleading comment. Temperatures are almost certainly on the rise again from as early as Sunday evening (850’s)


Edit: met office up until 22.08. “Temperatures are expected to remain widely above average for most, with further spells of very warm or hot conditions probable, and a likelihood of very hot conditions at times, especially in the south.”

Weathermac
24 July 2018 22:33:55


 


 Takes all sorts! 


 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


That comment is as daft as some of your winter is over posts beast lol

Steve Murr
24 July 2018 22:47:41
Day 10 18z Theta E charts

https://modeles.meteociel.fr/modeles/gfs/runs/2018072418/gfseu-6-240.png?18 


>56c

Normally equates to over 100F
Retron
25 July 2018 03:58:02

xioni2 posted in last thread:

https://weather.us/forecast/2643743-london/ensemble/euro



Surprised they don't go higher than that if there are really >25C 850s.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


You can see the 850s by going to temperature > 850 on those weather.us links.


(The highest on any of the 52 members on the 12z run yesterday was 23C for London, not 25C).


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Jiries
25 July 2018 06:09:16
Good 00z ensembles and Friday see a full day of 15-16C uppers then dropped for the weekend and then rise again from Monday onward with the peak still primed on 3rd August which is now 8 days away down from 10 days away with solid support. If places missed the storms on Friday evening then might reach 70 days without rain.
TimS
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25 July 2018 06:23:46
Less spread on morning GEFS. ECM looks quite similar to GFS so far. UKMO too early to tell - it only goes up to the messy start of next week.

As for GEM, long the hot option this year, it’s now going off on one in both the op and ENS.
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superteacher
25 July 2018 06:26:59
GEM is very overrated sometimes.
TimS
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25 July 2018 06:42:05

GEM is very overrated sometimes.

Originally Posted by: superteacher 


4th in accuracy after ECM, UKMO and GFS.


Funny how we all look at GFS because it provides so much more free data and runs 4 times a day.


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superteacher
25 July 2018 06:48:58


 


4th in accuracy after ECM, UKMO and GFS.


Funny how we all look at GFS because it provides so much more free data and runs 4 times a day.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


It seems very prone to big swings and showing more extreme conditions.

Ally Pally Snowman
25 July 2018 07:07:07

GEFS are the hottest I've seen this summer the Control run gives a week of 35c + .


 


ECM is stunning again to start August although the high doesn't quite get in the right position to draw up the highest uppers. Still 30c in the south by day 9 though.


 


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Rob K
25 July 2018 07:16:36

Yes the ECM doesn’t quite draw up the 15C+ air but it still looks very warm and settled. The first week to 10 days of August at least look odds-on to be very summery, even away from the SE.


 


Even the GEM grudgingly gives us some warmth in the end. 


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TimS
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25 July 2018 07:21:18
The ECM would be very nice. Ideally we can squeeze out a 35C this week and then settle into an August of absolute drought, long sunshine hours and late 20s-30C temperatures.
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Jiries
25 July 2018 07:34:03

The ECM would be very nice. Ideally we can squeeze out a 35C this week and then settle into an August of absolute drought, long sunshine hours and late 20s-30C temperatures.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


That would be fine as I like to see other areas to join in and see their lakes water levels dropping further to reveal houses which they show a lot in 1989 and 1990 summers.  Either August get a very hot one or June type set-up, either way let take this and avoid seeing boring rain showers/cold and wet days this summer full time.  Plus Uk cannot go cold and wet since all countries around us are baking hot at the moment and this will eventually cool down in Autumn.  Sea temps now 19-21C in North sea, SW UK and off S Ireland so that ensure HP easily settled over us.


https://www.seatemperature.org/

White Meadows
25 July 2018 08:07:09
00z op and control went crazy hot again for the foreseeable future.
On the subject of sea temps, they were talking on the radio this morning we are breaking records, 22-23 quite widely through the English Channel, that’s 3-4 degrees above normal. Chichester harbour recorded 25 yesterday. The Baltic Sea is even more unusual with temps 5-6 above normal.
This can only serve to build the heat into next month.
TimS
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25 July 2018 08:20:12


http://www.wetterzentrale.de/maps/GFSOPNS00_0_35.png 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Tgis is probably the difference between inshore / tidal waters and open sea temperatures. I can well imagine Chichester harbour, which is quite shallow, getting to 25C.


Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Arcus
25 July 2018 08:29:42


 


4th in accuracy after ECM, UKMO and GFS.


Funny how we all look at GFS because it provides so much more free data and runs 4 times a day.


Originally Posted by: TimS 


GEM's verification stats tend to be very similar to the GFS. For July NH SLP it's ahead in the 1 to 5 day range (3rd behind ECM and UKMO), but as suspected it tends to fall behind GFS in the 6 to 10 day range.


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Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
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