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Whether Idle
18 August 2018 06:04:22

Well for London at least its looking warm, then very warm, then a cool down (but no more than a 2 day blip, and that is not nailed on) before the warmth potentially returns.  In summary - a very respectable end to one of the all time great summers for the capital at least.:


Diagramme GEFS


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Brian Gaze
18 August 2018 06:30:05

What is there not to like? The only downside is my tomato season will finish early this year... because all the fruits will have ripened and been picked.



 


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Whether Idle
18 August 2018 07:13:21


What is there not to like? The only downside is my tomato season will finish early this year... because all the fruits will have ripened and been picked.



 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Three things of note -


1.  The consistency (apart from the blip) of the mean being  circa 2c above the LTA


2. The relative dryness


3. Summer 2018 is truly one the greats, to be close to 1976 is a massive honour.


WI


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Bertwhistle
18 August 2018 07:18:59

Looking at the ENS graphs there, I had a look at the evolution in P6 (the blue anomaly that keeps things warm at the transition, around 24th). The low to our WSW maintains form in P6, whereas in the Control, for example, it slackens then disappears. The P6 then uses the interaction between that low and the receding high to drag some warm European air over us. The high itself in P6 also retains more spatial coverage for longer.


An unlikely, but interesting, bridge for the warmth at 6 days out.


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doctormog
18 August 2018 07:36:02

What’s not to like? Any chance of average of better than average weather is restricted to the southern half of the U.K.?

There you go, answered your question. Liking the weather hundreds of miles away is a bit pointless. 


Whether Idle
18 August 2018 07:36:05


Looking at the ENS graphs there, I had a look at the evolution in P6 (the blue anomaly that keeps things warm at the transition, around 24th). The low to our WSW maintains form in P6, whereas in the Control, for example, it slackens then disappears. The P6 then uses the interaction between that low and the receding high to drag some warm European air over us. The high itself in P6 also retains more spatial coverage for longer.


An unlikely, but interesting, bridge for the warmth at 6 days out.


Originally Posted by: Bertwhistle 


As you say, unlikely, but still possible.  We will finish 2nd to 1976 as things stand, IMHO, but the scenario you highlight could edge us very close to first place, possibly, IMHO fascinating stuff!


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Bertwhistle
18 August 2018 07:45:45


 


As you say, unlikely, but still possible.  We will finish 2nd to 1976 as things stand, IMHO, but the scenario you highlight could edge us very close to first place, possibly, IMHO fascinating stuff!


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Agree entirely. I suspect the model watching will step up a notch over the next 2 weeks if there are enough who like records or near misses.


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Gusty
18 August 2018 07:52:04

A reminder of where we are at...fascinating.


-- HOTTEST EVER SUMMER CHALLENGE (top 6) ---


1. 1976 CET summer average was 17.77C
2. 2018 so far (to the 16th) ----17.74C
3. 1826 was 17.60c
4. 1995 was 17.36c
5. 2003 was 17.33c
6. 2006 was 17.23c


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Solar Cycles
18 August 2018 08:03:52


A reminder of where we are at...fascinating.


-- HOTTEST EVER SUMMER CHALLENGE (top 6) ---


1. 1976 CET summer average was 17.77C
2. 2018 so far (to the 16th) ----17.74C
3. 1826 was 17.60c
4. 1995 was 17.36c
5. 2003 was 17.33c
6. 2006 was 17.23c


Originally Posted by: Gusty 

Looks likely 2018 will finish runners up, but what a summer nonetheless.

Gusty
18 August 2018 08:07:17


Looks likely 2018 will finish runners up, but what a summer nonetheless.


Originally Posted by: Solar Cycles 


Truly incredible SC. Having had a summer like this has given me even more respect for the 'big daddy of 1976' 


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LeedsLad123
18 August 2018 08:20:45


 


Truly incredible SC. Having had a summer like this has given me even more respect for the 'big daddy of 1976' 


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


I'm sure we'll beat it eventually. 


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Gusty
18 August 2018 08:25:18


 I'm sure we'll beat it eventually. 


Originally Posted by: LeedsLad123 


The tide is rising LL. It won't be too long. 


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Whether Idle
18 August 2018 08:54:26


A reminder of where we are at...fascinating.


-- HOTTEST EVER SUMMER CHALLENGE (top 6) ---


1. 1976 CET summer average was 17.77C
2. 2018 so far (to the 16th) ----17.74C
3. 1826 was 17.60c
4. 1995 was 17.36c
5. 2003 was 17.33c
6. 2006 was 17.23c


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


Very interesting.  By the way, worth noting that the ex-tropical storm is entraining some very moist tropical air, which will aid the night time minima to stay afloat in Lancashire


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18 August 2018 09:48:16


 


Very interesting.  By the way, worth noting that the ex-tropical storm is entraining some very moist tropical air, which will aid the night time minima to stay afloat in Lancashire


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


Perish the thought of any pesky northern site derailing the CET!


 


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Saint Snow
18 August 2018 10:25:31


What’s not to like? Any chance of average of better than average weather is restricted to the southern half of the U.K.?

There you go, answered your question. Liking the weather hundreds of miles away is a bit pointless. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


 


I wouldn't even say 'southern half', Michael. I'd say the majority of the UK has had a disappointing August


We're off to Lanzarote on Thursday, and I'm glad I've timed it when I have. August has turned into a real crapfest - NW England looks like having about 2 weeks of max temps mostly around the 16-18c mark (albeit with a few days reaching the 'heady' heights of 20/21c)



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doctormog
18 August 2018 10:27:56


 


 


I wouldn't even say 'southern half', Michael. I'd say the majority of the UK has had a disappointing August


We're off to Lanzarote on Thursday, and I'm glad I've timed it when I have. August has turned into a real crapfest - NW England looks like having about 2 weeks of max temps mostly around the 16-18c mark (albeit with a few days reaching the 'heady' heights of 20/21c)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Yes, you could well be right. I would say you have picked your holiday timing very well! Enjoy. 


Rob K
18 August 2018 10:43:06


 


 


I wouldn't even say 'southern half', Michael. I'd say the majority of the UK has had a disappointing August


We're off to Lanzarote on Thursday, and I'm glad I've timed it when I have. August has turned into a real crapfest - NW England looks like having about 2 weeks of max temps mostly around the 16-18c mark (albeit with a few days reaching the 'heady' heights of 20/21c)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


It’s been crap in the southwest too. I’m camping in Devon and it’s been 17-18C maxes and it’s currently grey and drizzly. We arrived on Wednesday and the wind and rain wednesday night was incredible. It flattened our tent at 2.30am and snapped the poles in three places. We almost gave up but managed to strap it up using table legs and did at least get a reasonably sunny day on Thursday. But yes, August has been rubbish away from the SE corner. 


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LeedsLad123
18 August 2018 10:50:00

It's a warmer and drier than average month so far here and is likely to remain so, that's two of my three boxes ticked and makes it far better than most summer months since 2007 already.


Not sure what will happen regarding sunshine though, depends on how much we get in the final 10 or so days.


It's not really been any better in the SE corner compared to the rest of the country relative to average looking at Reading university's weather page. It's also been wetter in the SE than in most of England with some stations in Kent and Sussex already above average for the month, while here we've had very little rain - less than 10mm to date.


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Whether Idle
18 August 2018 10:52:44


 


It’s been crap in the southwest too. I’m camping in Devon and it’s been 17-18C maxes and it’s currently grey and drizzly. We arrived on Wednesday and the wind and rain wednesday night was incredible. It flattened our tent at 2.30am and snapped the poles in three places. We almost gave up but managed to strap it up using table legs and did at least get a reasonably sunny day on Thursday. But yes, August has been rubbish away from the SE corner. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Good to see Mother Nature balancing out the June situation where the SE corner was less well placed under NElies for much of the month, she always plays it her way


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David M Porter
18 August 2018 14:18:46


 


 


I wouldn't even say 'southern half', Michael. I'd say the majority of the UK has had a disappointing August


We're off to Lanzarote on Thursday, and I'm glad I've timed it when I have. August has turned into a real crapfest - NW England looks like having about 2 weeks of max temps mostly around the 16-18c mark (albeit with a few days reaching the 'heady' heights of 20/21c)


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


August has been a real disappointment here too, after the excellent weather we saw during much of June and July. It's almost been a throwback to what was commonplace last year and during many other summers over the past decade or so.


This year may have generally ended the long run of poor summers in years ending in 8, but the run of medicore Augusts, for many areas, seems to have continued this year.


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Rob K
18 August 2018 14:37:51
May (and increasingly April) seem to be summer months nowadays, and August seems to be part of autumn. Time to shift the school holidays I reckon!
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springsunshine
18 August 2018 19:54:49

May (and increasingly April) seem to be summer months nowadays, and August seems to be part of autumn. Time to shift the school holidays I reckon!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


It certainly does feel autumnal now and feels like summer has gone,this year summer was definatly May June and July.It seems over the past decade or so June and July have given the best summer weather and most years summer returns in September.

Whether Idle
19 August 2018 07:50:58

A pleasing run from the ECM, keeping the south clear of the coolest air until 26th August.  The majority of the run in the reliable is warm and settled for the south, the cooler interlude is diminished on this model, and deferred and brief. 


The Azores high then ridges across in FI out to day 10, which would bring further warmish and dry settled conditions quite widely across England and Wales, out towards the month's end.


My suspicion is that the month will end with another bit of real warmth, but we shall see in due course.


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Ally Pally Snowman
19 August 2018 08:12:57


A pleasing run from the ECM, keeping the south clear of the coolest air until 26th August.  The majority of the run in the reliable is warm and settled for the south, the cooler interlude is diminished on this model, and deferred and brief. 


The Azores high then ridges across in FI out to day 10, which would bring further warmish and dry settled conditions quite widely across England and Wales, out towards the month's end.


My suspicion is that the month will end with another bit of real warmth, but we shall see in due course.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


 


On paper it looks good but I think the reality like today will be cloudy skies for the south and wet and cool for the north. Apart from the first week August has been pretty average in the South worse in the north.


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Jiries
19 August 2018 08:31:59


A pleasing run from the ECM, keeping the south clear of the coolest air until 26th August.  The majority of the run in the reliable is warm and settled for the south, the cooler interlude is diminished on this model, and deferred and brief. 


The Azores high then ridges across in FI out to day 10, which would bring further warmish and dry settled conditions quite widely across England and Wales, out towards the month's end.


My suspicion is that the month will end with another bit of real warmth, but we shall see in due course.


Originally Posted by: Whether Idle 


And meanwhile the ensembles show poor BH weekend here as they getting worse with the runs and more wetter each time, it show the GFS had been very poor and not accurate lately even like today at 13-14C uppers I don't see any sun yet to bring the surface temps to high 20's.  Really keen now to get out of August and hope September do a better job. 

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