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johncs2016
17 December 2018 12:38:22
Even last year, there was some snow here in Edinburgh on Christmas night which was enough to technically, make that a white Christmas in this part of the world. However, it doesn't look as though we are going to see anything like that this year according to the latest model output.

The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
richardabdn
17 December 2018 19:10:08

For the second time in three years we have made it into the second half of December without so much as a flake of snow falling


Just what is there to enjoy about winter nowadays? It's just an ordeal. It just an endless cycle of miserable soul destroying garbage. All it does is alternate between crap cold windy westerlies that give temperatures around 5-6C by day and 1-2C by night with occasional frost, and horrendous totally vile muck from the SE quadrant that gives temperatures around 6-8C by day with 1C diurnal ranges and nothing approaching a frost


It's just stupefyingly  boring rubbish. We don't even see proper mild any more because instead of getting SW'lies delivering 10-15C with broken cloud, lenticulars and good sunsets we get the putrid SE'ly filth instead. It's not reached 10C once all month but there's been just three frosts the last of which was almost a week ago 


This morning we got no air frost, despite the sky being clear, yet still had to suffer icy pavements - another undesirable that seems to have increased in frequency recently despite the ridiculous reduction in air frosts. Tonight the wind is back in the most toxic of quarters again and instead of seeing a fall the temperature is doing what I detest the most and rising sharply, despite it being several hours past sunset. No doubt it will reach double figures during the night only to be much colder during the day. The sort of nonsense that happens all the time these days.


This horror is every bit as poor as 2013/14 but it started even earlier. It's barely stopped raining in the last four weeks, the vast majority of days have seen no sun or under an hour, and the ground is saturated. It's as if the drought earlier this year never happened.


There is little doubt that this is the most repellent winter weather that anywhere has to endure. Completely unacceptable 


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Gusty
17 December 2018 20:35:54


For the second time in three years we have made it into the second half of December without so much as a flake of snow falling


Just what is there to enjoy about winter nowadays? It's just an ordeal. It just an endless cycle of miserable soul destroying garbage. All it does is alternate between crap cold windy westerlies that give temperatures around 5-6C by day and 1-2C by night with occasional frost, and horrendous totally vile muck from the SE quadrant that gives temperatures around 6-8C by day with 1C diurnal ranges and nothing approaching a frost


It's just stupefyingly  boring rubbish. We don't even see proper mild any more because instead of getting SW'lies delivering 10-15C with broken cloud, lenticulars and good sunsets we get the putrid SE'ly filth instead. It's not reached 10C once all month but there's been just three frosts the last of which was almost a week ago 


This morning we got no air frost, despite the sky being clear, yet still had to suffer icy pavements - another undesirable that seems to have increased in frequency recently despite the ridiculous reduction in air frosts. Tonight the wind is back in the most toxic of quarters again and instead of seeing a fall the temperature is doing what I detest the most and rising sharply, despite it being several hours past sunset. No doubt it will reach double figures during the night only to be much colder during the day. The sort of nonsense that happens all the time these days.


This horror is every bit as poor as 2013/14 but it started even earlier. It's barely stopped raining in the last four weeks, the vast majority of days have seen no sun or under an hour, and the ground is saturated. It's as if the drought earlier this year never happened.


There is little doubt that this is the most repellent winter weather that anywhere has to endure. Completely unacceptable 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


As recently as 2006 I envied the Aberdeen winter climate. I'm not sure what's happened up there but winters are definitely not the same anymore. Even here in balmy SE Kent I've witnessed 3 days since mid November with snow falling (insignificant of course).


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Andy Woodcock
17 December 2018 22:00:05

What is there to enjoy about the UK in late 2018?


A country divided by Brexit, the laughing stock of the civilised world and enduring yet another mild miserable winter.


I Have been posting on TWO since 2002 and with a few exceptions winters in the UK are relentlessly crap, it's all so predictable and all so utterly boring.


This is my last Bartlett Winter, this time next year God willing I will be living in Spain where the usual Bartlett High is most welcome 


Until then is just one more deep easterly too much to ask?


Andy


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Solar Cycles
17 December 2018 22:01:40


What is there to enjoy about the UK in late 2018?


A country divided by Brexit, the laughing stock of the civilised world and enduring yet another mild miserable winter.


I Have been posting on TWO since 2002 and with a few exceptions winters in the UK are relentlessly crap, it's all so predictable and all so utterly boring.


This is my last Bartlett Winter, this time next year God willing I will be living in Spain where the usual Bartlett High is most welcome 


Until then is just one more deep easterly too much to ask?


Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 

Ruddy hell Andy how’s anyone suppose to compete with that moan. 😁

idj20
18 December 2018 20:17:04

I don't mind the rain, and yes, it goes get gloomy from time to time, but what I am already bored of this winter is the southerly gale-type wind which I'm experiencing yet again. I can't even seem to go through a week without experiencing that howling through the house and blowing a draught through the tiniest gap.


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tallyho_83
19 December 2018 20:38:40

Repulsive weather - coldest nighttime min has been +0.5c here in Exeter - we only had two frosts and most melted by midnight - it's not reached freezing let alone got below freezing! No snow of course! We had colder night time mins in October think the 26th or 27th where we plummeted to -3c . Clearly Autumn continues!

Past 2 weeks it's been overcast dull, wet and windy days - its is the worse December I can remember for a long time for cold ...because even if we don't get the snow at least we usually get several days of frost...or cold crisp nights but no nothing so far! It's rained every day since 3rd of December.
SICK weather!


(At least Scotland had snow) - my friend visited Balama last weekend and got a good 2-3cms 1' of snow last Saturday night/Sunday morning!


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springsunshine
19 December 2018 20:47:52


What is there to enjoy about the UK in late 2018?


A country divided by Brexit, the laughing stock of the civilised world and enduring yet another mild miserable winter.


I Have been posting on TWO since 2002 and with a few exceptions winters in the UK are relentlessly crap, it's all so predictable and all so utterly boring.


This is my last Bartlett Winter, this time next year God willing I will be living in Spain where the usual Bartlett High is most welcome 


Until then is just one more deep easterly too much to ask?


Andy


Originally Posted by: Andy Woodcock 


Yep! 

springsunshine
19 December 2018 20:52:57


Repulsive weather - coldest nighttime min has been +0.5c here in Exeter - we only had two frosts and most melted by midnight - it's not reached freezing let alone got below freezing! No snow of course! We had colder night time mins in October think the 26th or 27th where we plummeted to -3c . Clearly Autumn continues!

Past 2 weeks it's been overcast dull, wet and windy days - its is the worse December I can remember for a long time for cold ...because even if we don't get the snow at least we usually get several days of frost...or cold crisp nights but no nothing so far! It's rained every day since 3rd of December.
SICK weather!


(At least Scotland had snow) - my friend visited Balama last weekend and got a good 2-3cms 1' of snow last Saturday night/Sunday morning!


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Don`t worry Tally, at least it will be mild  14c forecast over the weekend and maybe a bbq xmas.

johncs2016
19 December 2018 20:53:38


Repulsive weather - coldest nighttime min has been +0.5c here in Exeter - we only had two frosts and most melted by midnight - it's not reached freezing let alone got below freezing! No snow of course! We had colder night time mins in October think the 26th or 27th where we plummeted to -3c . Clearly Autumn continues!

Past 2 weeks it's been overcast dull, wet and windy days - its is the worse December I can remember for a long time for cold ...because even if we don't get the snow at least we usually get several days of frost...or cold crisp nights but no nothing so far! It's rained every day since 3rd of December.
SICK weather!


(At least Scotland had snow) - my friend visited Balama last weekend and got a good 2-3cms 1' of snow last Saturday night/Sunday morning!


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Of course, you could always move to Edinburgh which according to all of the reports which I've been reading on both the CC and Precipitation Watch threads, appears to be the only location in the whole of the UK where it has been drier than average during this month so far. Everywhere else until now has been wetter than average and in a number of places, significantly so. Clearly, there has to be some scientific reason why the rainfall patterns for here during this month have been so different from what they  are like in the rest of UK and why we're just not getting anything like as much rain here as what the rest of the UK is getting, yet no-one on this forum has been able to shed any light so far into why that might be the case.


However, that is also another reason why if you did ever move to Edinburgh, you would also be moving to the most boring part of the UK in terms of our weather where very little of anything that is even remotely interesting ever happens. What happens in terms of our rainfall is that when it rains here, the amounts which I am reporting are usually so small that it actually makes the process of reporting that, rather tedious and boring after a while.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
tallyho_83
19 December 2018 21:41:40


 


Don`t worry Tally, at least it will be mild  14c forecast over the weekend and maybe a bbq xmas.


Originally Posted by: springsunshine 


Not worried at all! I am fed up of wind and rain every hissing day... it's hissing it down!


I can never understand this terminology - at least it will be mild' Darren Bett and sometimes Peter Gibb's always say that!! It's turning wetter or becoming wet and windy but at least it will be mild' - maybe it's a BBC thing?


No point it being mild if you're going to get soaked is it?


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tallyho_83
20 December 2018 01:04:11


For the second time in three years we have made it into the second half of December without so much as a flake of snow falling


Just what is there to enjoy about winter nowadays? It's just an ordeal. It just an endless cycle of miserable soul destroying garbage. All it does is alternate between crap cold windy westerlies that give temperatures around 5-6C by day and 1-2C by night with occasional frost, and horrendous totally vile muck from the SE quadrant that gives temperatures around 6-8C by day with 1C diurnal ranges and nothing approaching a frost


It's just stupefyingly  boring rubbish. We don't even see proper mild any more because instead of getting SW'lies delivering 10-15C with broken cloud, lenticulars and good sunsets we get the putrid SE'ly filth instead. It's not reached 10C once all month but there's been just three frosts the last of which was almost a week ago 


This morning we got no air frost, despite the sky being clear, yet still had to suffer icy pavements - another undesirable that seems to have increased in frequency recently despite the ridiculous reduction in air frosts. Tonight the wind is back in the most toxic of quarters again and instead of seeing a fall the temperature is doing what I detest the most and rising sharply, despite it being several hours past sunset. No doubt it will reach double figures during the night only to be much colder during the day. The sort of nonsense that happens all the time these days.


This horror is every bit as poor as 2013/14 but it started even earlier. It's barely stopped raining in the last four weeks, the vast majority of days have seen no sun or under an hour, and the ground is saturated. It's as if the drought earlier this year never happened.


There is little doubt that this is the most repellent winter weather that anywhere has to endure. Completely unacceptable 


Originally Posted by: richardabdn 


 


At this time last year Scotland saw quite a bit of snow, with so much cold zonality too! - I recall back in November 2017 end of) - you had at least 2" of snow or 5cms? Aberdeen has hardly seen any this winter so far? What was it like last Saturday night in Aberdeen Rich?


There was snow last Saturday night at Balama my friend said and it settle to a few 2-3cms and lasted until Sunday afternoon! But been poor so far and soon 1 month of winter will be gone and there is nothing cold or snowy in the next 10 days! So all eyes on January and the tropospheric response to the SSW in a few days time. SHould be signs we start to see some model runs turn cold in FI within the next week...!?


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johncs2016
20 December 2018 01:19:03


 


 


At this time last year Scotland saw quite a bit of snow, with so much cold zonality too! - I recall back in November 2017 end of) - you had at least 2" of snow or 5cms? Aberdeen has hardly seen any this winter so far? What was it like last Saturday night in Aberdeen Rich?


There was snow last Saturday night at Balama my friend said and it settle to a few 2-3cms and lasted until Sunday afternoon! But been poor so far and soon 1 month of winter will be gone and there is nothing cold or snowy in the next 10 days! So all eyes on January and the tropospheric response to the SSW in a few days time. SHould be signs we start to see some model runs turn cold in FI within the next week...!?


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


Last year, Aberdeen did get some snow from a Northerly and I can recall Richard posting some photos of that onto the snow reports thread at that time. However, I can also remember him not long afterwards, not even being happy about that as though it weren't enough but then, I guess that it just wouldn't be like Richard to actually be happy with the weather in his part of the world.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
tallyho_83
20 December 2018 01:49:51


 


Last year, Aberdeen did get some snow from a Northerly and I can recall Richard posting some photos of that onto the snow reports thread at that time. However, I can also remember him not long afterwards, not even being happy about that as though it weren't enough but then, I guess that it just wouldn't be like Richard to actually be happy with the weather in his part of the world.


 


Originally Posted by: johncs2016 


Whilst I heard a friend who went to Glasgow then Balama and there was snow in Balama - was there any in Edinburgh? last Saturday night?


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johncs2016
20 December 2018 05:28:40


 


Whilst I heard a friend who went to Glasgow then Balama and there was snow in Balama - was there any in Edinburgh? last Saturday night?


Originally Posted by: tallyho_83 


No.


It mostly rained here (albeit not to the same extent as in the rest of the UK as has been the case throughout this month) on Saturday and although that did turn to wet snow for a while, this left nothing other than a temporary slushy deposit.


Now, I know that I live in the north of Edinburgh where we get the least amount of snow on average anyway, due to being much lower down and closer to the coast. However, the reports from Jerry over on the other side of Edinburgh on that night confirmed that it was the same there as well.


 


The north of Edinburgh, usually always missing out on snow events which occur not just within the rest of Scotland or the UK, but also within the rest of Edinburgh.
Saint Snow
20 December 2018 09:58:07

Forever autumn...


 


 



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ARTzeman
20 December 2018 13:47:20


Forever autumn...


 


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Until Friday 21st December 2018 10:35 pm. Actual solstice.  






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richardabdn
20 December 2018 20:35:49

Another utterly awful day with drizzle and a stupidly boring lack of temperature range with a max of only 6.2C achieved following a min of 4.7C. Stuck on 5C all evening 


This is unreal. It's just the same crap day in day out. There is just nothing remotely interesting at all. The lack of mild daytime temperatures and any sort of cold is just astonishing. Near average daily high of 6.0C this month and extreme max just 9.7C but no snow and a pitiful three frosts with mean min running 1.5C above average at 2.8C.  The second month in a row to see an average diurnal range of just 3C. 44% wind from the SE quadrant which is horrendous but pales into comparison with 73% in November.


Unspeakably bad and I challenge anyone to find a forecast for a populated part of the world, outside of the British Isles, that depicts conditions more dire and boring than what we have had to put up with for the past month


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2024 - 2023 without the Good Bits
Snowjoke
21 December 2018 21:45:18

Spare a thought for us in the Massif Central in Central France. Endless grey, wet and relatively mild gloom. This is the epitome of the modern climate change winter. This area at an average of 700 metres above sea level is seeing no snow at all. Hardly any frosts; hardly any high pressure or sunshine. It is relentless rain and gloom and following on from one of the hottest summers on record. Winter is no longer a season here. It is just very, very depressing.

springsunshine
22 December 2018 19:23:39

Unfortunatly I have not posted much in this thread as imby we are still waiting for winter to arrive and looks like it won`t be arriving anytime in the foreseeable   Today has been 13c+ and it feels more like April than December.Ive a feeling we could end up completely bypassing winter this year. January will be key.

richardabdn
23 December 2018 10:36:12

Yet another horrendous nothing day dawns with cloudy frost free crap. Closing in on a fortnight without any frost now. Used to be an exceptional occurrence but happens pretty much every "winter" now. 


Like the 1950s and 1980s this has been a decade of dire Decembers but unlike in those decades the garbage has continued throughout the winter with almost no let up. Whilst 2013, 2015 and 2016 were all atrocious Decembers none of them were anywhere near as mind-numbingly boring as this month of utter dross has been.


I can't remember having as little enthusiasm for Christmas as I have this year and this endlessly crap is the cause. It sucks the life out of you. Just wish I could hibernate until March because I am getting nothing out of this winter at all and don't believe there will be any change for the better.


We need some new emoticons for this winter. This one would be ideal:


 


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2024 - 2023 without the Good Bits
tallyho_83
23 December 2018 18:22:20
Just as bad if not worse that December 2015 - So far out of 22 nights we have had no frost and it has rained on every day! Very damp and gloomy. It reached 14c earlier in brighter spell. Very unseasonal. I never knew this December will be this crap for cold weather enthusiasts! At least in October we recorded a sub-zero night time max -3c on 26th/27th October. This December not got below 1c.
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richardabdn
24 December 2018 09:07:56

The frost free horror goes on and on despite clear skies this morning. It's just unreal. 13 days without any frost now despite only two days in that period reaching as high as 7C


May 2018 was the warmest on record yet it still got down to -1.5C. Now the nights are at their longest and with maxes of 5C  it can't even drop below 1C under clear skies  Just a complete joke which defies any sort of logical or rational explanation.


December 2015 was definitely no where near as bad as this. It was utterly dire but there was much more variety both in temperature and weather conditions- it was nowhere near as pitifully boring as this. We'd had two falls of snow by now: 5cm on 21st/22nd Nov and 1cm on 30th Nov/1st Dec whereas there hasn't been a flake so far this year and only two years in the past 70 have had nothing by the end of December - 1953 and 2006.


To be struggling to get much higher than average during the day but failing to get frost is just disgusting and appalling winter weather. I can't imagine anywhere even at 47 degrees North struggling to get frost in the core winter period never mind 57 degrees North.


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Tim A
24 December 2018 09:12:08

A rare frost here this morning.
Whilst not overly mild this month has been boring weatherwise with the freezing rain event the only real interest and even that isnt as exciting as snow.
Very little snow this autumn /winter even on the higher ground. Normally even in a mild December there would be a handful of days when you could go to 300-500m asl to see some snow. Basically no cool NW or W incursions.


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Solar Cycles
24 December 2018 12:19:55

Second frost of the winter this morning after enduring a wet three days in the Lakes to recharge the batteries.😏

A crap winter thus far to go with the zillion other proceeding crap winters, and I’m far from convinced the SSW will do us any favours either looking at at the GFS.

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