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Ally Pally Snowman
04 March 2020 21:57:09


 


If Maunder is right that would seem to be the case. However, it is at complete odds with what the WHO said yesterday. Their investigation into China suggested there very few "invisible" cases of the coronavirus.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


This is what's so odd about what WHO said yesterday it goes completely against everything weve been told before. Its very strange.

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Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 22:00:33


 


If it is the latter then the mortality rate will obviously be a lot lower, and that’s good news.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Which brings us back full circle - it is not the mortality rate which is the issue, but the proportion requiring hospitalisation which is the problem for society as a whole.


Quantum is good at doing the maths - but assume 50% have the infection - out of a population of 100 million (for sake of argument and because it makes the maths easy), that is 50 million infected - if 5% of those have sever enough symptoms to require hospitalisation, that is 2.5 million people requiring hospital beds and care. This is where we get into difficulties.

New world order coming.
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:00:38


 


If it is the latter then the mortality rate will obviously be a lot lower, and that’s good news.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


 


Exactly.


And if it does impact mainly the elderly, we can view it as a cull of Brexit and Tory supporters, whilst leaving the nicer people to get the country back out of the hands of the shysters and spivs.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
CreweCold
04 March 2020 22:01:01


 


This is what's so odd about what WHO said yesterday it goes completely against everything weve been told before. Its very strange.


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


Ever get the feeling we are not being made privy to the full picture?


Conflicting reports, scenes of people collapsing and the lengths China went to with this virus suggests to me this could be far more severe than we are being led to believe.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Maunder Minimum
04 March 2020 22:01:49


 


 


Exactly.


And if it does impact mainly the elderly, we can viewbitvas a cull of Brexit and Tory supporters. 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Disgusting! But since you voted for Brexit yourself, I guess you are going to man up and volunteer for the cull!

New world order coming.
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:03:45


 


Which brings us back full circle - it is not the mortality rate which is the issue, but the proportion requiring hospitalisation which is the problem for society as a whole.


Quantum is good at doing the maths - but assume 50% have the infection - out of a population of 100 million (for sake of argument and because it makes the maths easy), that is 50 million infected - if 5% of those have sever enough symptoms to require hospitalisation, that is 2.5 million people requiring hospital beds and care. This is where we get into difficulties.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


 


Like I said, suspend all private hospital procedures, sequester private hospitals for care of Covid-19 patients, and co-opt the staff into the NHS until this blows over.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
The Beast from the East
04 March 2020 22:03:50


 


The japanese style toilets have this integrated and do it in a carefully planned way with no spilling or accidents. They can then dry the arsehole and even perfume it to your taste.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


no wonder Rear entry is so popular in Japanese porn 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Arcus
04 March 2020 22:04:56


Suggestions the UK will switch to CONTAIN tomorrow. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Nope, it will be delay. We're already failing at contain.

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:07:15


 


no wonder Rear entry is so popular in Japanese porn 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 


John Humphries: Your name?


Beast: Geoff


John Humphries: And your specialised subject?


Beast: Global pornography and its regional traits and quirks.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Ally Pally Snowman
04 March 2020 22:10:35


 


Ever get the feeling we are not being made privy to the full picture?


Conflicting reports, scenes of people collapsing and the lengths China went to with this virus suggests to me this could be far more severe than we are being led to believe.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


 


Could well be a WHO tactic to get other countries to try Chinese style containing methods. Maybe the death rate is higher than we're being told?


 

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
westv
04 March 2020 22:11:00
I want to ģo to Japan so I can give those loos a try!
At least it will be mild!
Arcus
04 March 2020 22:11:27


 


 


John Humphries: Your name?


Beast: Geoff


John Humphries: And your specialised subject?


Beast: Global pornography and its regional traits and quirks.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


If he gets through then I would suggest SS in the next round as "Defecation patterns on neighbours' driveways"

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:13:27


 Maybe the death rate is higher than we're being told. 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


 


If it is, then it's far less contagious than is being made out, as there simply haven't been the sort of mass deaths you'd expect to see.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:14:44

I want to ģo to Japan so I can give those loos a try!

Originally Posted by: westv 


 


Your personal emissions would apparently be around 2.5 tons.


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
CreweCold
04 March 2020 22:15:18


 


 


Could well be a WHO tactic to get other countries to try Chinese style containing methods. Maybe the death rate is higher than we're being told?


 


Originally Posted by: Ally Pally Snowman 


I'm increasingly wondering whether the death rate is actually more towards 5-7%  It wouldn't shock me at all if it was. Obviously some will disagree with my fears but it's how I see things right now.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Ally Pally Snowman
04 March 2020 22:21:00


 


 


If it is, then it's far less contagious than is being made out, as there simply haven't been the sort of mass deaths you'd expect to see.


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


 


Here's hoping for some good news but at the moment it only seems significant quarantining and disruption is the only way to avoid massive casualties.


 

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speckledjim
04 March 2020 22:22:07


 


I'm increasingly wondering whether the death rate is actually more towards 5-7%  It wouldn't shock me at all if it was. Obviously some will disagree with my fears but it's how I see things right now.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


The mortality rate on closed cases is 6% so you’re wrong.

Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
The Beast from the East
04 March 2020 22:22:34
Boris will never go to phase 2. The economic damage will be too great
"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Arcus
04 March 2020 22:24:16


 


If he gets through then I would suggest SS in the next round as "Defecation patterns on neighbours' driveways"


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


Humphrys: "In 2009 you left a faecal cable reminiscent of the peaks of what South American mountain range on the drive of No. 32 Acacia Avenue?"


Beast: "The Ojos del Salado range."


Humphrys: "Correct"

Ben,
Nr. Easingwold, North Yorkshire
30m asl
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:26:19


 


If he gets through then I would suggest SS in the next round as "Defecation patterns on neighbours' driveways"


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 



Or "The political opinions and drinking habits of Wetherspoons bigots and bores"


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
CreweCold
04 March 2020 22:27:57


 


The mortality rate on closed cases is 6% so you’re wrong.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


Well I hope that this isn't as grim as I fear it might be. 


It will be interesting (for those of us who make it to the other side of this) just what the social legacy of this virus will be.


Crewe, Cheshire
55 metres above sea level
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:28:04


 


Humphrys: "In 2009 you left a faecal cable reminiscent of the peaks of what South American mountain range on the drive of No. 32 Acacia Avenue?"


Beast: "The Ojos del Salado range."


Humphrys: "Correct"


Originally Posted by: Arcus 


 


[Must. Resist. Googling. Ojos del Salado]


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
Saint Snow
04 March 2020 22:30:04


 


Well I hope that this isn't as grim as I fear it might be. 


It will be interesting (for those of us who make it to the other side of this) just what the social legacy of this virus will be.


Originally Posted by: CreweCold 


 


A relaxation of laws preventing handgun ownership? So people can shoot any shambling figure that approaches them with a cough and flushed appearance?


Martin
Home: St Helens (26m asl) Work: Manchester (75m asl)
A TWO addict since 14/12/01
"How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics."
Aneurin Bevan
howham
04 March 2020 22:31:11


 


 


[Must. Resist. Googling. Ojos del Salado]


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 


Sounds like a dump...

westv
04 March 2020 22:31:43


 


The mortality rate on closed cases is 6% so you’re wrong.


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


What are the nùmbers? Surely closed case numbers can never be up to date anyway?

At least it will be mild!
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