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xioni2
11 March 2020 10:46:47

I hadn't realised that Spain and Greece have closed all their schools. The family unit is stronger there, so it's probably significantly less disrupting than it'd have been here.


Interesting though that the greek medical officer cited a new study showing that children are efficient asymptomatic carriers of the virus and they transmit it. I don't know which study it is though.


 

Maunder Minimum
11 March 2020 10:49:23


I hadn't realised that Spain and Greece have closed all their schools. The family unit is stronger there, so it's probably significantly less disrupting than it'd have been here.


Interesting though that the greek medical officer cited a new study showing that children are efficient asymptomatic carriers of the virus and they transmit it. I don't know which study it is though.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Poland has also now done it, despite few cases and no deaths.


The best and most radical approach is that taken by Moldova however.


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Essan
11 March 2020 10:52:06

There is much dangerous stupidity and ignorance in the world ....

A president of India’s ruling BJP party in the state of West Bengal has said that people who turn out for prayer during mass events are immune to the coronavirus, as they enjoy the protection of higher forces.



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Essan
11 March 2020 10:53:50


I hadn't realised that Spain and Greece have closed all their schools. The family unit is stronger there, so it's probably significantly less disrupting than it'd have been here.


Interesting though that the greek medical officer cited a new study showing that children are efficient asymptomatic carriers of the virus and they transmit it. I don't know which study it is though.


 

Originally Posted by: xioni2 




Children now at home being looked after by their grandparents ?


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Brian Gaze
11 March 2020 10:54:58


Interesting though that the greek medical officer cited a new study showing that children are efficient asymptomatic carriers of the virus and they transmit it. I don't know which study it is though.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Doesn't surprise me at all. 


Poland has now closed its schools. UK's approach is an outlier. 


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xioni2
11 March 2020 10:55:11



Children now at home being looked after by their grandparents ?


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Yeah, pretty much. I spoke to my niece in Greece this morning and she was so happy. 


 


 

warrenb
11 March 2020 10:55:40
The Czech Republic is also closing all schools from Monday
speckledjim
11 March 2020 10:57:40


 


Natural justice decrees it. People who wish ill on others, deserve whatever they get.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


What comes around goes around....


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Justin W
11 March 2020 11:01:27

We don’t know what is driving HMG’s approach to this and we don’t know what the CMO’s advice has been. So this softly, softly approach could be effective.


But in the light of Italy, Spain and now Germany, it strikes me as a very high-risk strategy.


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speckledjim
11 March 2020 11:01:27
China have just announced that anyone arriving in Beijing from any country must self isolate for 14 days
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Gavin D
11 March 2020 11:04:27

Iran have reported 958 new cases and 63 new deaths

Total to 9,000 cases and 354 deaths

John p
11 March 2020 11:07:33
I predict after COBRA today they'll announce school closures from Monday and urge all to wfh where possible.

If they don't, they're off their rockers imo.
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Gavin D
11 March 2020 11:08:09

speckledjim
11 March 2020 11:09:28

I predict after COBRA today they'll announce school closures from Monday and urge all to wfh where possible.

If they don't, they're off their rockers imo.

Originally Posted by: John p 


 


It's a dilemma re school closures as what about all those NHS staff who have children. They will have to stay at home to look after them and then we have an even bigger problem.


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Ulric
11 March 2020 11:10:14

I predict after COBRA today they'll announce school closures from Monday and urge all to wfh where possible.

If they don't, they're off their rockers imo.

Originally Posted by: John p 


Agreed.


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xioni2
11 March 2020 11:15:31


We don’t know what is driving HMG’s approach to this and we don’t know what the CMO’s advice has been. So this softly, softly approach could be effective.


But in the light of Italy, Spain and now Germany, it strikes me as a very high-risk strategy.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 



This is what I think too. I just hope they don't rely too much on modelling, but they are also using data from other countries. The handling of experts from successive Tory governments and this government's obsession with political messaging doesn't inspire much confidence though. Last week there was also a lot of confusion on whether the CMO wanted to initiate the next phase.


I hope their strategy works and we only see a small and gradual increase in the number of infections and deaths.


 

Gavin D
11 March 2020 11:16:01

Breaking: Spain report 372 new cases and 11 new deaths

Total now 2,067 with 47 deaths

Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 11:16:34





Children now at home being looked after by their grandparents ?


Originally Posted by: Essan 


Well, family groups including elderly relatives is thought to have caused the high mortality rate in northern Italy. No solution is without consequences.


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xioni2
11 March 2020 11:19:47

 


Even though it's now on the BBC News website? 


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The BBC says *could*, your post said *will*


STOP QUOTING THAT WEBSITE.

Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 11:26:56


What it says is "German Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned that according to experts, 60-70% of the German population could become infected with the coronavirus."


Which is more or less the same 'worst case' assumption given by the CMO here, which was "up to 80%".  It's an absolute worst case scenario based on epidemiological modelling of a novel virus for which there is no herd immunity.


It's why the focus is on trying to flatten and delay the peak. Treating the serious cases spread over 3-6 months is better than it being compressed into 1-2 months. 


But Spanish Flu had three waves, so it's reasonable to assume that the maximum for any one wave is going to be way below 60-70-80%.


 


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John p
11 March 2020 11:27:22
Hancock statement tonight at 7pm.
Sounds like timed for maximum impact - I reckon containment measures will be announced.
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Roonie
11 March 2020 11:30:07

There is no doubt this is far more widespread than is being reported.


My brother returned from Austria 10 days ago and has all the main symptoms. He phoned 111 and they asked if he has been in contact with a known sufferer. His answer at the time was no so they said no need to test.


Today they have shut down après ski in the resort he was at due to cases there.


The people he went with now have the sympoms and 111 still saying no test needed....



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Gandalf The White
11 March 2020 11:31:09
Clearly some people are getting minimal symptoms from Covid-19, so mild can indeed mean exactly that.

"In France this week, Culture Minister Franck Riester was diagnosed. The 46-year-old minister was tested after displaying symptoms, but is "feeling well" in quarantine, French media say."
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Saint Snow
11 March 2020 11:32:57




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 


What a pity



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