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Maunder Minimum
18 March 2020 15:27:45


 


As I said, the whole fabric of conservative economics is being dismantled and they are terrified of this more than the virus itself.


If we can just create £350bn out of nothing, why did we have 10 years of austerity which led to the premature deaths of 100,000 poor people?


Why not solve the homeless crisis by paying for them  to stay at the Barclay Brother owned Ritz , which is empty?


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Duh! Because it is not real money and there will come a time when it has to be accounted for - either by currency debasement (think Weimar) or extra taxes to pay it off.


 


New world order coming.
Caz
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18 March 2020 15:28:38


The earth shakes as 100,000 children jump for joy in unison LOL!


Originally Posted by: westv 

   They’ll be begging to go back by September 2021!


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RobN
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18 March 2020 15:29:05


 


But cant you just keep doing it to keep the system going forever?


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I think that approach has been tried a few times already - and failed miserably every time.


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Maunder Minimum
18 March 2020 15:29:50


 


F#cking idiot sources and f#cking idiot journalists reporting this.


Don't these tools realize the reason Italy locked down is because people escaped the Lombardy quarantine.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 



It is absolutely true - because the Lombardy lockdown leaked 24 hours in advance, thousands left for the south and now the epidemic is increasing there, just as it is finally decreasing in northern Italy.


New world order coming.
Heavy Weather 2013
18 March 2020 15:30:31
There is apparently a convoy of army trucks heading down the A13 to London.
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The Beast from the East
18 March 2020 15:30:48


"We have some alternative facts for you"
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Caz
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18 March 2020 15:31:32


 


 


What an absolute selfish gobshite that's 168 bog rolls when there's people desperate (in more ways than one) because of bulk buying & stockpiling.


 


Originally Posted by: Saint Snow 

Even worse, it’s 192!  8 packs of 24!


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The Beast from the East
18 March 2020 15:31:53

There is apparently a convoy of army trucks heading down the A13 to London.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Yes its happening.


I just pray its only central London and not here. 


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 15:32:15


 



It is absolutely true - because the Lombardy lockdown leaked 24 hours in advance, thousands left for the south and now the epidemic is increasing there, just as it is finally decreasing in northern Italy.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


I agree but the government has been abysmal:


1) Schools should have been closed days ago. Everyone knew it was coming.


2) Khan should have been invited to the governments meetings sooner - once he was added it was obvious extreme measures were under discussion in London


On a slightly different note the NHS has been oversold for years by all three political parties. Our failure to have a grown up discussion about health provision is a source of national shame.


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Quantum
18 March 2020 15:34:38


 


I agree but the government has been abysmal:


1) Schools should have been closed days ago. Everyone knew it was coming.


2) Khan should have been invited to the governments meetings sooner - once he was added it was obvious extreme measures were under discussion in London


On a slightly different note the NHS has been oversold for years by all three political parties. Our failure to have a grown up discussion about health provision is a source of national shame.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Because the NHS is our damn national religion. In the US it's guns, in Italy it's pasta and in Sweeden it's gender pronouns. Here it's the godawful 3rd world excuse for healthcare that seems about the only thing it's politically acceptable to have national pride in despite it being the inside joke of the rest of christendom.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 15:35:09

There is apparently a convoy of army trucks heading down the A13 to London.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Have you got a source? I can't find anything and the report earlier this afternoon (which I referenced) was bogus.


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Rob K
18 March 2020 15:36:46


 


There is nothing stopping a central bank from simply "printing" new money and NOT counting it as borrowing. The problem as you suggest is inflation but that is also dependent on how fast the money circulates in the system. One problem I see is we could end-up - for a time - a little like the Soviet Union where there is plenty of "money" but nothing to buy with it. A black market could well spring up where people are buying products with other means than £s.  


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes, it’ll be like the Weimar Republic, one wheelbarrow full of bank notes for a pack of fags. On the plus side everyone’s mortgages will be inflated down to nothing in short order...


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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 15:41:22

Being widely reported now:


London braced for coronavirus 'lockdown' as restrictions face being tightened


Multiple sources told the Mirror they expect restrictions to be tightened in the capital. Exact measures and timing are not yet known - but emergency laws will soon allow the government to shut venues and restrict travel if needed


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/london-braced-coronavirus-lockdown-restrictions-21714419?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar


 


Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
18 March 2020 15:43:02

Daily Fail is starting to panic. I don't blame them:


 


Get a grip Boris


Britain's coronavirus infections soar 676 in a DAY: Another U-turn from Boris as he announces government in talks to buy four-hour testing kit as he finally admits screening needs to increase from 5,000 to 25,000 a day


 


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html


 


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Rob K
18 March 2020 15:44:03
The most serious situation to face the UK in 75 years and we have the least serious leader since Krusty’s Krazy Circus. Brilliant.
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
xioni2
18 March 2020 15:44:32

The government continues to mishandle this.

Quantum
18 March 2020 15:46:48


Being widely reported now:


London braced for coronavirus 'lockdown' as restrictions face being tightened


Multiple sources told the Mirror they expect restrictions to be tightened in the capital. Exact measures and timing are not yet known - but emergency laws will soon allow the government to shut venues and restrict travel if needed


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/london-braced-coronavirus-lockdown-restrictions-21714419?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar


 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Who are these 'sources'


They need to be imprisoned.


Utter t*ats.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
xioni2
18 March 2020 15:47:08

The most serious situation to face the UK in 75 years and we have the least serious leader since Krusty’s Krazy Circus. Brilliant.

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


You can see that even his smirk seems to have disappeared these days, it's because he knows that (unlike with Brexit) he cannot easily bullsh1t himself out of this crisis. He will still try of course, the scientists will probably be the first to be scapegoated.


 

Gandalf The White
18 March 2020 15:47:31


 


Because the currency is only a representation of the trade of Labour and produce. If you just print money to temporaily redistribute the wealth an inevitable consequence of that is people start to lose confidence in the currency.


There isn't a magic money tree, borrowing from the future is going to have consequences in the future.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


But if nothing is done we will see massive deflation as wealth is wiped out as businesses go bust.  Which is the lesser evil?  A slump and huge levels of unemployment or a bout of inflation.


My knowledge of economics is a little rusty but does filling a void caused by huge numbers of people suddenly not spending money have to lead to uncontrolled inflation?


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Rob K
18 March 2020 15:48:02
The sports betting firms are getting desperate. Just had this email.



Hi Robert,

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How long will Boris address the nation for? We're currently priced at 36-38 minutes for today's 'Length of Briefing', with 'Sips of Water' available at 1.5-2.5.

The phrase of the moment from the Government has been 'Whatever it Takes', but how many times will it be used in today's briefing? We're currently offering this at 2.5-3.5, with mentions of the 'NHS' priced at 12-14.

We appreciate that the situation is a serious one, we're just trying to look for glimmers of light-heartedness during an otherwise dismal period. We hope you're all staying as safe as possible and look forward to the not-too-distant future when the sports that we love are back up and running.


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Quantum
18 March 2020 15:49:48


 


But if nothing is done we will see massive deflation as wealth is wiped out as businesses go bust.  Which is the lesser evil?  A slump and huge levels of unemployment or a bout of inflation.


My knowledge of economics is a little rusty but does filling a void caused by huge numbers of people suddenly not spending money have to lead to uncontrolled inflation?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I'm not saying it's a bad policy at all. This was a response to beast's question about why you can't just do this all the time. Doing this in 'peacetime' (since we are effectively in wartime mode now) would be a disaster.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Steve
18 March 2020 15:49:49


 


Because the NHS is our damn national religion. In the US it's guns, in Italy it's pasta and in Sweeden it's gender pronouns. Here it's the godawful 3rd world excuse for healthcare that seems about the only thing it's politically acceptable to have national pride in despite it being the inside joke of the rest of christendom.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Having just had a close relative spend time in intensive care and helped to full recovery from a life threatening condition by an absolutely fantastic team in the NHS, I find your comment above even worse than the usual garbage that come from your keyboard 

Gandalf The White
18 March 2020 15:50:34


 


You can see that even his smirk seems to have disappeared these days, it's because he knows that (unlike with Brexit) he cannot easily bullsh1t himself out of this crisis. He will still try of course, the scientists will probably be the first to be scapegoated.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


He's probably wishing he hadn't taken the job.


Looking around I'm not sure there's any standout candidate who would do a better job.  On the other hand Churchill had his flaws but still stepped up and provided the leadership needed.


 


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xioni2
18 March 2020 15:51:10

The line about the the correct timing and responding to the latest data is also quite tired now. We don't have the luxury to wait until the data changes on the ground, there is a significant lag involved!


 

Quantum
18 March 2020 15:51:21


 


Having just had a close relative spend time in intensive care and helped to full recovery from a life threatening condition by an absolutely fantastic team in the NHS, I find your comment above even worse than the usual garbage that come from your keyboard 


Originally Posted by: Steve 


I'm sorry but facts are facts. On just about every possible metric the NHS is the worst healthcare system in the western world, 2nd only to the US.


 


2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.

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