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David M Porter
19 March 2020 16:47:03


 


Latest YouGov has Tories on 52%, 30 points ahead and Boris surging approval rating


I think most on this forum are out of step with public opinion


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


If that is really representative of public opinion, then it only serves to confirm what I have suspected for a while that anyone who voted for these crackpots that call themselves the government must be like the proverbial turkeys that voted for Christmas.



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Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 16:48:48


Same here according to people working in our local hospital.  Calm before the storm?  Hopefully not!


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Just been on the phone to my son-in-law - he tells me ICU beds are filling up in Birmingham, but Worcestershire is still OK. He has also received information from a Doctor he knows in New York - according to him, they have run out of free ventilators in NY and have started putting two patients on each ventilator - sounds terrible there.


 


New world order coming.
Northern Sky
19 March 2020 16:50:05

Got told today that our school will remain open. Staff will underlying health problems told to stay off work for 12 weeks.


Someone asked if we will be provided with any protection masks etc and was told no because anyone with symptoms, child or adult, would immediately sent home. 


The fact that most children are probably asymptomatic carriers seems to have passed them by.


I expect things to change when we start dropping like flies.  

xioni2
19 March 2020 16:50:41


 Just been on the phone to my son-in-law - he tells me ICU beds are filling up in Birmingham, but Worcestershire is still OK. He has also received information from a Doctor he knows in New York - according to him, they have run out of free ventilators in NY and have started putting two patients on each ventilator - sounds terrible there.


 

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Yeah, I think NY could easily end up worse than London. Higher population density too.

Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 16:51:08


 


They likely don't, but as they can just buy tests then they'd show up.


Mind you, when those "test to see if you've had it" tests come out, I'd be severely tempted to buy one.


Originally Posted by: Retron 


There could be some truth in the glitterati having a higher positive rate than normal people - don't forget the outbreaks in the ski resorts. Clooney and wife have a mansion on Lake Como too.


New world order coming.
xioni2
19 March 2020 16:51:42


I expect things to change when we start dropping like flies.  


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Man up and do your duty for the herd.


Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 16:53:01


Got told today that our school will remain open. Staff will underlying health problems told to stay off work for 12 weeks.


Someone asked if we will be provided with any protection masks etc and was told no because anyone with symptoms, child or adult, would immediately sent home. 


The fact that most children are probably asymptomatic carriers seems to have passed them by.


I expect things to change when we start dropping like flies.  


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Yes, your point is quite correct. I don't believe this solution the government have put in place will last very long.


Meanwhile, some strong words from London Underground and Tfl


https://tfl.gov.uk/


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Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 16:56:17
Wrt regards schools since there are no exams this year I assume kids of essential workers will not have normal lessons? Basically it's just a pen to keep kids in?
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SJV
19 March 2020 16:59:44


Got told today that our school will remain open. Staff will underlying health problems told to stay off work for 12 weeks.


Someone asked if we will be provided with any protection masks etc and was told no because anyone with symptoms, child or adult, would immediately sent home. 


The fact that most children are probably asymptomatic carriers seems to have passed them by.


I expect things to change when we start dropping like flies.  


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Do you have any outdoor space? Our school will be open next week with the potential for quite a significant attendance of children as well.


Our head intends to make use of the disrupted curriculum by spending as much time outdoors as possible with any children that turn up next week. At least then we'll be in fresh air! 

Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 16:59:50

P.S. On the topic of the glitterati getting it:


"Monaco's Prince Albert II has tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the principality said in a statement Thursday, adding there were "no concerns for his health".





The titular head of the Mediterranean enclave is continuing to work from his private apartments at the royal palace, the statement said."





New world order coming.
xioni2
19 March 2020 17:00:18

While many people are still lounging by the pool, there are 2 tsunamis coming our way:


The first one will be medical as all this country's stupidity, complacency and lack of leadership will wash over the ICUs over the next 4-5 weeks.


That will be followed by the economic tsunami, which will last longer.


 

Northern Sky
19 March 2020 17:01:21


 


Man up and do your duty for the herd.



Originally Posted by: xioni2 


As someone said, it feels like being sent to the front line armed with a peashooter.


 


And to answer Brian, yes it won't be education it will be babysitting.

Darren S
19 March 2020 17:01:41


 


Yeah, I think NY could easily end up worse than London. Higher population density too.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Already is. New York State has 4,158 cases and a population of 19.54 million (213 cases per million). A couple of days ago, 75% of the cases were in New York County and Westchester County alone which have a combined population of 9.5 million, so the rates of infection there are similar to Italy.


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19 March 2020 17:02:07


Has the UK released today's test results / count?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

Are these figures now daily?


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Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 17:02:18


While many people are still lounging by the pool, there are 2 tsunamis coming our way:


The first one will be medical as all this country's stupidity, complacency and lack of leadership will wash over the ICUs over the next 4-5 weeks.


That will be followed by the economic tsunami, which will last longer.


 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Same applies in every western European country. Even those with more ICU capacity than the UK will soon use it up - that is the experience from Lombardy - they just have additional headroom.


New world order coming.
xioni2
19 March 2020 17:03:22


 Already is. New York State has 4,158 cases and a population of 19.54 million (213 cases per million). A couple of days ago, 75% of the cases were in New York County and Westchester County alone which have a combined population of 9.5 million, so the rates of infection there are similar to Italy.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


I didn't know this, it sounds ominous.

Sevendust
19 March 2020 17:03:41

Wrt regards schools since there are no exams this year I assume kids of essential workers will not have normal lessons? Basically it's just a pen to keep kids in?

Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes - I heard this discussed on 5live last night. They won't "teach" the kids because that would create an advantage for those who are still attending. Would be a good idea to teach them some non standard stuff though relating more to normal life

xioni2
19 March 2020 17:04:37


 Same applies in every western European country. Even those with more ICU capacity than the UK will soon use it up - that is the experience from Lombardy - they just have additional headroom.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


We shall see my border aficionado. Did you read the Reuters article about how unprepared and underinvested the UK is?

Maunder Minimum
19 March 2020 17:05:12


 


I didn't know this, it sounds ominous.


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Most cities worldwide have densely populated apartment blocks - evidence from China shows these are like cruise ships when it comes to spreading the virus. Most people in the UK are addicted to their houses and gardens - might (fingers crossed) make us less susceptible. Just a thought.


 


New world order coming.
xioni2
19 March 2020 17:05:55


Would be a good idea to teach them some non standard stuff though relating more to normal life


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Like arguing in UIA?

The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 17:07:43

I notice one of the new bits of legislation is the NHS cannot be sued for malpractice during the Coronavirus pandemic (seems to apply for any form of treatment).
Not sure how I feel about that.

Originally Posted by: John p 


It means they can switch off the ventilator and give it to a younger person and the family cant complain


 


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SJV
19 March 2020 17:09:41


Would be a good idea to teach them some non standard stuff though relating more to normal life


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


That's very much our intention next week onwards  As I work in Y5 and 6, it will be somewhat refreshing when I'm back at work and teaching without having SATs dictating my every move.

Northern Sky
19 March 2020 17:10:06


 


Do you have any outdoor space? Our school will be open next week with the potential for quite a significant attendance of children as well.


Our head intends to make use of the disrupted curriculum by spending as much time outdoors as possible with any children that turn up next week. At least then we'll be in fresh air! 


Originally Posted by: SJV 


We do and luckily I'm the outdoor learning coordinator so I'll be spending lots of time outdoors. 


If we can somehow avoid the virus I think it will be much better mentally than being locked up at home. Difficult to think we'll avoid it but we'll just have to take our chances.

The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 17:10:08


Closing of pubs/restaurants etc. in London to be announced today??


Originally Posted by: westv 


Hope not. Not necessary as the numbers of deaths are still low. 


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xioni2
19 March 2020 17:10:14


 Most cities worldwide have densely populated apartment blocks - evidence from China shows these are like cruise ships when it comes to spreading the virus. Most people in the UK are addicted to their houses and gardens - might (fingers crossed) make us less susceptible. Just a thought.


 

Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


It will make a difference I think. In large apartment blocks you come close to other people even for collecting mail or every time you go out (not to mention the lifts). Our terraced houses, gardens and parks should help with social distancing.

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