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Gandalf The White
19 March 2020 17:46:44


 


Even so , its hyped up ( the number not the virus) wont get to a  1,000 IMO 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


If the government had done nothing there's little doubt that numbers would have rocketed and the NHS would have been overwhelmed just like Wuhan and northern Italy and more recently parts of Spain.


We know that there's a proportion who remain asymptomatic, possibly a significant majority.


We know a significant number require hospital treatment and a sizeable proportion of those require intensive care.


We know the mortality rate amongst the elderly and vulnerable is very high.


We know that one person infects on average three more.


 


It doesn't take much to work out how fast this could get out of control without containment action.


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Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 17:47:57
He is talking about other countries where the curve is coming down. Most of these countries have enacted much forceful measures.

If I was one of those people thinking this wasn’t too bad, after watching that embrassing tulipshow of just go to the pub.

Utterly embrassing
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 17:48:03

Astonishing. Absolutely astonishing. If we'd handled this properly to begin with we would have been doing that all along. 


Vallance says the measures in place should have an impact on the rate of growth of the epidemic.


You would expect the epidemic to come down. Then you can move to a phase where you test and trace.


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Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 17:50:54
Probably one of the most appalling press conferences I have ever witnessed
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Gandalf The White
19 March 2020 17:51:20

It seems inconsequential to some I realise but having to deal with young people in tears as their chance to shine in end of year exams has been removed from them to be replaced by what appears to be poorly thought out un-policeable alternatives is deeply saddening.

Originally Posted by: doctormog 


That I fully appreciate, Michael.  It's a consequence of the government being forced to react rather than being proactive, i.e. Not properly thought through.


Surely it can't be difficult to make a clear statement that nobody will be disadvantaged by the closing of schools and cancellation of GCSE & A-level exams and that arrangements will be put in place with sufficient notice once conditions allow.  


Leaving a void where there needs to be really good communication and reassurance is not clever.


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Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 17:55:32
I am almost certain Boris was slightly drunk during that press conference.

I am being completely serious.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
warrenb
19 March 2020 18:00:07
A clue to London more severe resrrictions was in the fact he said that the press conference was probably going to have to be done remotely
Ulric
19 March 2020 18:06:19


 


Even so , its hyped up ( the number not the virus) wont get to a  1,000 IMO 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


I think you're out by a couple of orders of magnitude. (at least)


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
xioni2
19 March 2020 18:07:02

The figures from Lombardy were not good today:



  • An increase in the number of new infections 

  • They hit their ICU capacity of 1006 beds and had to transfer 29 cases to other areas

  • They plan to have ~1250 ICUs by the end of the week 

  • The Milan numbers were worse: 634 new hospital admissions vs 300 on Wed


The really tragic figures though are more than 3,000 hospital staff infected and 118 of them have already died including 14 doctors. Some of them were retired ICU doctors who answered the call to arms.


 

Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 18:07:49

The numbers on the governement website have been updated:

It says that 144 have died in the UK and that 3229 have tested positive.


Thats an increase of +603 positive tests


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Justin W
19 March 2020 18:12:04

London will not be locked down because of the effect on the value of sterling and the interest charged on government borrowing.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
RobN
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19 March 2020 18:19:33

A clue to London more severe resrrictions was in the fact he said that the press conference was probably going to have to be done remotely

Originally Posted by: warrenb 


Does that mean the govt are relocating to one of the few remaining cold war bunkers that hasn't been sold off for growing cannabis plants?


Rob
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Justin W
19 March 2020 18:21:24


 


Does that mean the govt are relocating to one of the few remaining cold war bunkers that hasn't been sold off for growing cannabis plants?


Originally Posted by: RobN 


It means that journalists will ask questions remotely because the conference itself is a breach of distancing guidelines.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 18:26:33

Breaking: +643 New Cases and 144 UK deaths.


Thats an increase of deaths (41) on yesterday.


Can anyone confirm if testing was up or down yesterday.


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
westv
19 March 2020 18:26:49


 


It means that journalists will ask questions remotely because the conference itself is a breach of distancing guidelines.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Is it? We don't see how far apart they sit.


At least it will be mild!
Gooner
19 March 2020 18:28:34


 


Is it? We don't see how far apart they sit.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Yes we do , they are actually close to each other ( yesterdays conference ) 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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westv
19 March 2020 18:36:34


 


Yes we do , they are actually close to each other ( yesterdays conference ) 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Don't remember that shot.


At least it will be mild!
Heavy Weather 2013
19 March 2020 18:47:45
For the first time during this crisis, I’m feeling really frustrated, angry and upset.

I am seeing people out and about drinking in pubs and having a good time while I have the misfortune of locking myself away for 12 weeks.

These people are putting so many people at risk. It’s my birthday next week and have had to cancel all my plans. I’m doing my bit for me and this country.

But I am ashamed of people who believe this is nothing serious and are carrying on as normal.

I am ashamed at how our PM is handling this during our darkest hour in modern times and I am ashamed of the British public.

The horrors due to unfold in this country over the coming weeks doesn’t bare thinking about. People who are out drinking now and having a good time will have blood on their hands.
Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 18:51:05


Breaking: +643 New Cases and 144 UK deaths.


Thats an increase of deaths (41) on yesterday.


Can anyone confirm if testing was up or down yesterday.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


How many tests were done?


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Gooner
19 March 2020 18:51:48


 


Don't remember that shot.


Originally Posted by: westv 


Its showed his ( Boris ) mate Laura and they were all very close to each other 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


picturesareme
19 March 2020 18:57:15


Goodness. why can't he give a straight answer. It is "don't know yet" that is fine:


Q: Is there any evidence young people are being affected worse than expected?


Whitty says most people who get this experience just a mild illness.


Older people get it more severely, he says.


But he says that does not mean that there will not be severe cases amongst some young adults.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Not that I'm comparing this to the seasonal flu but the same could be said about it..


Older folk and compromised folk get it worse,  but young healthy adults/ children can and do also die each year.m from it. 

Brian Gaze
19 March 2020 18:58:49


 


Not that I'm comparing this to the seasonal flu but the same could be said about it..


Older folk and compromised folk get it worse,  but young healthy adults/ children can and do also die each year.m from it. 


Originally Posted by: picturesareme 


Yes that is known. The concern is that data coming out of the US is tentatively suggesting younger people are more at risk of hospitalisation than was previously thought. 


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The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 19:01:25


Breaking: +643 New Cases and 144 UK deaths.


Thats an increase of deaths (41) on yesterday.


 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Impressive numbers and shows the virus is being contained and the voluntary social measures are working


No need to lockdown or force closures


 


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The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 19:03:19


 




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The Beast from the East
19 March 2020 19:06:13

Good luck with that sweetheart


 


 




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