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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 07:50:02


 


In my daughter's class (yr 6) of 28 there are only 4 returning as far as I know. That may rise slightly but certainly not much


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I would have hated being one of the four. 


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doctormog
20 March 2020 07:50:11

https://twitter.com/i/events/1240567679343353859  

Originally Posted by: Retron 


Still doesn't really mean anything - unless you test everyone with symptoms (impossible, pretty much) you will always have a high bias towards severe cases in hospitals.



Yes, absolutely Darren but that is less dramatic. Asymptomatic young people or those with mild symptoms will never end up in hospital and the available age profile data clearly demonstrate the age-related correlation of the disease. It does not say that no young people can be seriously affected just that the chance is significantly lower.


Gooner
20 March 2020 07:50:26

M Hancock is a dreamer , " if people follow our advice we will be on top of this in 12 weeks " he is in la la land , people still going to gyms , going to restaurants , pubs wake up man 


EDIT - Spoke to a friend of mine who proudly told me he has been to the gym at 05:30 " not too bad though just under a dozen in the room " I asked if he wiped the equipment down after he used it " no time mate , anyway not my job " of course I told him he was being a twit


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Banbury
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chelseagirl
20 March 2020 07:50:36


 


I'll get one too but I hope they will be easy to use and reliable. Blood glucose home test kits are prone to error. They can easily be contaminated and readings can be very inconsistent. I realise testing antibodies is different but there are potential problems. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Yes they can be especially the new continuous monitoring ones. I did a test before Christmas and it came out as 32. (Normal should have been 5-7). Was a very worried minute before I realised I had just finished icing Christmas cake! 


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
speckledjim
20 March 2020 07:51:55


 


I would have hated being one of the four. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed, however, they are all friends so it shoudn't be too bad for them. All the parents are NHS


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Justin W
20 March 2020 07:56:52

Our neighbour (a very healthy woman in her late 40s) has had Covid-19 for the last eight days. She contracted it skiing in Italy. She says (by text) that it is horrendous. The cough and breathing issues are the worst she has ever had and the fatigue means she hasn't got out of bed in almost a week. She says it is the worst illness that she has ever had.


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Gooner
20 March 2020 07:58:31


Our neighbour (a very healthy woman in her late 40s) has had Covid-19 for the last eight days. She contracted it skiing in Italy. She says (by text) that it is horrendous. The cough and breathing issues are the worst she has ever had and the fatigue means she hasn't got out of bed in almost a week. She says it is the worst illness that she has ever had.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I have heard accounts from people who have had it ( TV) it really does sound absolutely awful , the breathing issues really must be quite frightening 


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Banbury
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Rob K
20 March 2020 08:02:56


Yesterday's Boris pronouncements were more sloganising than announcing practical measures. Maybe there's not much he can say but he used his usual bluster to conceal that.


Depressingly, from the BBC news "But there is a question mark over whether this immunity will last. Other coronaviruses, which cause common cold symptoms, lead to a very weak immune response and people can catch the same bug multiple times in their lifetime." If this is true you have to hope that once caught, subsequent attacks will be no more serious than the cold we all get each winter.


 


Originally Posted by: DEW 


Yes I have been wondering that. When I first heard that coronaviruses are the same family that cause the common cold that worries me because medical science famously “can’t cure the common cold”. 


The only hope must be that it mutates into a strain that causes less serious illness. 


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chelseagirl
20 March 2020 08:03:18


 


Better a false reading you then double-check than no data with a problem left unrecognised. I'm running at a steady 4.2 - 6.4 approx.


I expect routine GP surgery diabetic consults and tests will be on hold for the foreseeable future except for those at particular risk.


R.


Originally Posted by: Roger Parsons 


Luckily had mine last week. Hb was 42 so quite happy with that. 


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 08:03:40


M Hancock is a dreamer , " if people follow our advice we will be on top of this in 12 weeks " he is in la la land , people still going to gyms , going to restaurants , pubs wake up man 


EDIT - Spoke to a friend of mine who proudly told me he has been to the gym at 05:30 " not too bad though just under a dozen in the room " I asked if he wiped the equipment down after he used it " no time mate , anyway not my job " of course I told him he was being a twit


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


He said “IF people follow our advice...”


What you are saying is some people won’t. Your anecdote is just another in a long list of people behaving selfishly; add the panic buyers to the list and those gathering in large numbers in pubs.


You may well be right but it doesn’t make Hancock wrong, does it??


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Gooner
20 March 2020 08:04:40

HR now off with a fever and cough - Finance Manager now Fever and Cough , that's 7 we have now 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:05:25


Still doesn't really mean anything - unless you test everyone with symptoms (impossible, pretty much) you will always have a high bias towards severe cases in hospitals.


EDIT: And given the 20-50 age group would be more socially active, more out and about and indeed are larger in number than the 65+ group, it's likely vastly more of them - percentage wise - are infected with the virus. It really skews the figures and I'd actually put very little faith on alarmist reports that young people are falling ill from it.


Yes, they are, but 0.1% of a large number is equal to 10% of a much smaller one!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


But doesn't it suggest a higher number of younger people are ending up in hospital than expected? I understand the point about not knowing how far the virus has spread, but I still think it is something that needs watching. Birx flagged it up a couple of days ago at the White House conference so I think it is at least causing some concern.


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Gooner
20 March 2020 08:06:34


 


He said “IF people follow our advice...”


What you are saying is some people won’t. Your anecdote is just another in a long list of people behaving selfishly; add the panic buyers to the list and those gathering in large numbers in pubs.


You may well be right but it doesn’t make Hancock wrong, does it??


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


No but he also said "most are" , well they aren't , not here anyway , it makes the whole government wrong in the fact that they are being too polite , enforce it 


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Banbury
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Rob K
20 March 2020 08:07:28
Last night was meant to be my daughter’s performance night at stage school with parents watching (and would have been the first one I could go to because I was always at work for previous ones). The performance was cancelled, understandably, but the meeting was still on. Based on how upset my daughter was with the anticlimactic nature of the evening, it would have been better to scrap it altogether.

She is going to school today but already yesterday more than half her class were off. My two-year-old had just started going to preschool for two mornings a week, and now that will stop too, of course.
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Essan
20 March 2020 08:07:36
8am on a Friday morning and not a single car parked at Evesham station (normally almost full with commuters at this time). Quite eerie!
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Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 08:07:59


HR now off with a fever and cough - Finance Manager now Fever and Cough , that's 7 we have now 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Gooner am very sorry to hear your struggles. Unfortunately you must prepare for the business you work in to go to wall. This is the very consequence of the actions of a fair few people who being so so selfish as you illustrated in your post earlier.


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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:08:24


HR now off with a fever and cough - Finance Manager now Fever and Cough , that's 7 we have now 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Oxfordshire is one of the worst affected counties - wouldn't be that a lot of people from Oxfordshire go skiing would it?


In Worcestershire, we still only have 8 official cases and our hospitals bear that out, whilst Birmingham hospitals are under pressure. Odd how adjacent regions can have such different profiles - you can of course point out that Worcestershire is a largely rural county and the West Midlands conurbation is densely populated, which of course is true - but Oxfordshire is largely rural too, as is Hampshire (which is also a hotspot).


 


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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:09:27

8am on a Friday morning and not a single car parked at Evesham station (normally almost full with commuters at this time). Quite eerie!

Originally Posted by: Essan 


But as someone else who lives in Worcestershire, I would wager that you do not know a single person who has the contagion.


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Justin W
20 March 2020 08:09:35

R4 Today had the mulleted cretin, Tim Martin, on half an hour ago telling us that people should continue to go to pubs because the Govt guidelines were 'an overreaction'.


The BBC's obsession with 'balance' continues long after Brexit: Having a scientist or subject on? Ensure 'balance' by also inviting a retard onto your show to give his view.


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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:11:41


 


Yes they can be especially the new continuous monitoring ones. I did a test before Christmas and it came out as 32. (Normal should have been 5-7). Was a very worried minute before I realised I had just finished icing Christmas cake! 


Originally Posted by: chelseagirl 


I don't have the big D but was interested to do some tests on myself. All of my results were under 5.9 mmol/L before meals and under 7.8 mmol/L after meals. However, I noted: 


1) If the blood was smeared in the meter could say "too low to measure" 


2) The second drop generally gives a different result to the first, sometimes notable. At the higher range a couple of hours after a sugar orgy I think the readings where 6.4 and 7 from the same sample


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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:12:05


HR now off with a fever and cough - Finance Manager now Fever and Cough , that's 7 we have now 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Hi Gooner - how many people are employed by the business and what line of work is it? Can the business still function at the moment?


Is it possible to work at home?


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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 08:14:42


Our neighbour (a very healthy woman in her late 40s) has had Covid-19 for the last eight days. She contracted it skiing in Italy. She says (by text) that it is horrendous. The cough and breathing issues are the worst she has ever had and the fatigue means she hasn't got out of bed in almost a week. She says it is the worst illness that she has ever had.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Madine Dorries, 62, and her 84 year old mum both recovered fully with no trouble. If they can do it, so can we all


This thing is going to rip anyway. No point trying to hide from it. 


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Justin W
20 March 2020 08:15:49


 


But as someone else who lives in Worcestershire, I would wager that you do not know a single person who has the contagion.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Have you been to the pub, then?


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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 08:16:09


R4 Today had the mulleted cretin, Tim Martin, on half an hour ago telling us that people should continue to go to pubs because the Govt guidelines were 'an overreaction'.


The BBC's obsession with 'balance' continues long after Brexit: Having a scientist or subject on? Ensure 'balance' by also inviting a retard onto your show to give his view.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Tim is one of our most successful businessmen. He is not a retard


 


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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:19:19


Our neighbour (a very healthy woman in her late 40s) has had Covid-19 for the last eight days. She contracted it skiing in Italy. She says (by text) that it is horrendous. The cough and breathing issues are the worst she has ever had and the fatigue means she hasn't got out of bed in almost a week. She says it is the worst illness that she has ever had.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


If the government had suspended all flights to Italy back when, no doubt she would have complained like mad that the government had over-reacted and stolen her holiday - but now she would fervently wish that the government had done so.


This is human nature unfortunately - since you cannot prove a negative, if people are stopped from doing something they complain and call it an overreaction, without realising that the measure is actually keeping them safe - that is the message to those who still crowd into public places.


New world order coming.
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