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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:20:56

It is the Mirror so treat with caution but this is worrying: 



Coronavirus: London hospital first to admit it is turning Covid-19 patients away



Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust - which saw three deaths in Wednesday's surge - admitted to sending patients to neighbouring hospitals but says all who needed ventilation have got it


 


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-london-hospital-first-admit-21723498


 


Brian Gaze
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Ulric
20 March 2020 08:21:38


 


Have you been to the pub, then?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I went in a pub yesterday. I was the only person in there. I went in because it's the closest point to my house where I could use a POS terminal to validate a new bank card.


I walked through the town after that and the few places open were as if they had been picked clean by locusts - the baker, the butcher. I was advised by people returning from our local Tesco not to even bother going in there.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:21:53


Tim is one of our most successful businessmen. He is not a retard 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


He is an idiot IMHO. 


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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:22:12


 


Have you been to the pub, then?


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


No, even though I am certain nothing bad would happen if I did, I am being a good citizen by keeping away.


New world order coming.
Essan
20 March 2020 08:22:25


But as someone else who lives in Worcestershire, I would wager that you do not know a single person who has the contagion.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



Indeed.  No signs of it here at all.   Although most of my customers seem to be staying at home ....


Edit: if it breaks out in Evesham it'll probably start at Wetherspoons ....  (usual suspects in there every afternoon when I go past).  


Andy
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Gooner
20 March 2020 08:22:44


 


Gooner am very sorry to hear your struggles. Unfortunately you must prepare for the business you work in to go to wall. This is the very consequence of the actions of a fair few people who being so so selfish as you illustrated in your post earlier.


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Cheers mate 


We have 21 outlets across the world , 500 million turnover but doesn't mean local companies wont be hit ,  I have put split shifts in the Operations so there is no contact , management staff rotate through the week . But if our customer base shrinks our workforce will have to follow .


Sounds an odd thing to say but if we make people redundant then they will have  real difficulty trying to find a job so when things turn the corner they might be available to re-employ …………….if that makes sense 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


warrenb
20 March 2020 08:23:18


 


Tim is one of our most successful businessmen. He is not a retard


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


He is a cretinous self serving idiot whose only concern is go keep the money rolling. Whoever at the bbc decided to get this idiot on should be sacked on the spot. Balance does not include stupity.


 


So beast you are doing well. At present you are serving the needs of Cummings and Martin at the moment. I suggest you may be in with the wrong crowd


The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 08:23:57


 


He is an idiot IMHO. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Perhaps, but you cant deny his entrepreneurial genius. 


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Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 08:24:01


 


Tim is one of our most successful businessmen. He is not a retard


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


No. What he is doing it seems is actively encouraging his customer base to commit involuntary man slaughter.  


Mark
Beckton, E London
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Gooner
20 March 2020 08:25:31


 


Oxfordshire is one of the worst affected counties - wouldn't be that a lot of people from Oxfordshire go skiing would it?


In Worcestershire, we still only have 8 official cases and our hospitals bear that out, whilst Birmingham hospitals are under pressure. Odd how adjacent regions can have such different profiles - you can of course point out that Worcestershire is a largely rural county and the West Midlands conurbation is densely populated, which of course is true - but Oxfordshire is largely rural too, as is Hampshire (which is also a hotspot).


 


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Disagree with that MM , Oxford itself attracts a huge amount of visitors , we have had a lot of students at the UNI with the virus  , Blenheim Palace ,on the edge of the Cotswolds , its a tourist attraction …………….oh and D Beckham is 6 miles from my house lol 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:26:16


 


No. What he is doing it seems is actively encouraging his customer base to commit involuntary man slaughter.  


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Very succinctly put. That IMO is exactly what the fool is doing.


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:28:51


 


Disagree with that MM , Oxford itself attracts a huge amount of visitors , we have had a lot of students at the UNI with the virus  , Blenheim Palace ,on the edge of the Cotswolds , its a tourist attraction …………….oh and D Beckham is 6 miles from my house lol 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Yes - I guess tourist hotspots are prime magnets for the virus - that is one reason why Italy and Spain have been so badly affected. Plus, that factory shopping area at Bicester was a particular magnet for Chinese tourists before the virus hit.


You did not reveal what line of business the company you work for is in.


New world order coming.
Gooner
20 March 2020 08:28:57


 


Hi Gooner - how many people are employed by the business and what line of work is it? Can the business still function at the moment?


Is it possible to work at home?


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Hello mate - we supply paint throughout the UK to the door / window and conservatory manufacturers  - Farrow and Ball colours / Ral / British Standard / Dulux colours ,  we are finding that our customers are now struggling to get timber .


I am lucky I can fluctuate from home and work , others cant - we employ 41 across England and Ireland 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Justin W
20 March 2020 08:31:36


 


No, even though I am certain nothing bad would happen if I did, I am being a good citizen by keeping away.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 



Although you can't be certain that you are not carrying it and would not spread it. I'm missing the pub like crazy but just won't risk other people's health.


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
SJV
20 March 2020 08:33:37

I don't know if this has been shared on here yet, but the following is a very informative (long!) piece about how various strategies work - the pros & cons of all of them - and what is recommended:


https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 


I found it a fascinating read.


 


And yes, it also proves, not that we all had any doubt anyway, that people like Tim Martin are greedy cretins effectvely advocating for mass slaughter so they can line their pockets with blood money.


 

Gooner
20 March 2020 08:34:06


 


Yes - I guess tourist hotspots are prime magnets for the virus - that is one reason why Italy and Spain have been so badly affected. Plus, that factory shopping area at Bicester was a particular magnet for Chinese tourists before the virus hit.


You did not reveal what line of business the company you work for is in.


Originally Posted by: Maunder Minimum 


Bicester Village was hit badly from day 1 it seemed , the Nike store closed quite quickly 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 08:34:48


 


Yes I have been wondering that. When I first heard that coronaviruses are the same family that cause the common cold that worries me because medical science famously “can’t cure the common cold”. 


The only hope must be that it mutates into a strain that causes less serious illness. 


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


The main reason we catch the common cold multiple times is that there are many variants; exposure to one doesn’t provide immunity to the others.


This needs someone with expertise in this field but I think it’s very complicated to answer and being a novel virus there’s insufficient data to reach an informed answer. 


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Ulric
20 March 2020 08:35:13


Our neighbour (a very healthy woman in her late 40s) has had Covid-19 for the last eight days. She contracted it skiing in Italy. She says (by text) that it is horrendous. The cough and breathing issues are the worst she has ever had and the fatigue means she hasn't got out of bed in almost a week. She says it is the worst illness that she has ever had.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


TBH, there are very varied reports about the severity of symptoms. Some people get hit very hard and others it seems, have very mild symptoms. I hypothesise that there are a number of factors which predispose people to severe symptoms, some of which may be genetic and most of which are currently unknown. The UK testing regime almost guarantees that we have little idea how far/fast this is spreading in the population at large but I'm sure that social distancing is having an effect. Round here, the streets are deserted and traffic is very thin. People are keeping their distance and not touching each other when they meet. Elbow bumps instead of handshakes and respectful distances kept.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Ulric
20 March 2020 08:36:23

This.



This needs someone with expertise in this field but I think it’s very complicated to answer and being a novel virus there’s insufficient data to reach an informed answer. 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
chelseagirl
20 March 2020 08:39:26


 


I don't have the big D but was interested to do some tests on myself. All of my results were under 5.9 mmol/L before meals and under 7.8 mmol/L after meals. However, I noted: 


1) If the blood was smeared in the meter could say "too low to measure" 


2) The second drop generally gives a different result to the first, sometimes notable. At the higher range a couple of hours after a sugar orgy I think the readings where 6.4 and 7 from the same sample


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


reading fine for a non D. I have a new meter which links into an iPad app and it actually lets you add blood if there wasn’t enough etc on the first sample. I think if AI had a sugar orgy my readings would be up in the 30s, that is if I were still conscious enough to do a test! Tip. Red wine lowers blood glucose very well. 🤣


The Fenlands of Cambridgeshire
Ulric
20 March 2020 08:39:39



Although you can't be certain that you are not carrying it and would not spread it. I'm missing the pub like crazy but just won't risk other people's health.


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


It's funny, I'm usually a regular pub-goer but stopped 10 days ago. I find I don't miss the beer but I do miss the social contact. In a small town, a lot of local information changes hands at the bar.


To doubt everything or to believe everything are two equally convenient solutions; both dispense with the necessity of reflection. - Henri Poincaré
Maunder Minimum
20 March 2020 08:40:21


 


Hello mate - we supply paint throughout the UK to the door / window and conservatory manufacturers  - Farrow and Ball colours / Ral / British Standard / Dulux colours ,  we are finding that our customers are now struggling to get timber .


I am lucky I can fluctuate from home and work , others cant - we employ 41 across England and Ireland 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Thanks. Difficult in the meantime, but your line of business will ramp up quickly again once this epidemic is under control. I would love to think 12 weeks would be sufficient, but I have my severe doubts on that one - even if it is contained, it is not possible to go back to business as usual until there is herd immunity (either by mass vaccination or most people having caught it) - that is the issue - how long before then? Will be more like 12 months than 12 weeks.


New world order coming.
Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 08:41:08

This is very impressive if correct:


A scramble by the UK to produce thousands of ventilators to fight the coronavirus outbreak was achieving results as top companies have already produced a prototype and it should be ready for use in hospitals by the end of next week, according to Britain’s health secretary.


“More than half a dozen companies have already made one in prototype, to check with us that we are happy with the quality ,” Matt Hancock told BBC TV.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-live-updates-outbreak-deaths-italy-uk-us-australia-europe-vaccine-china-global-economy-toll-latest-update-news


 


Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Justin W
20 March 2020 08:42:32

I agree with Richard. This is likely to be a 12-month ordeal before some semblance of normality starts to return. But who knows what the world will look like then?


Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
John p
20 March 2020 08:44:18
As I mentioned yesterday,now the list of keyworkers is out, you'll see the schools are not closed. Far from it.
They might as well carry on with the exams!
I wonder if this was factored in to the imperial model?
My view is the Government still haven't actually done anything tacit and that we're more on course for 250k deaths than 20k.
Camberley, Surrey

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