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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 17:58:00

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Lionel Hutz
20 March 2020 17:58:08

VAT payments deferred which will make a big difference for me. Plus no payment on account in July.

Originally Posted by: Justin W 


We've got a similar measure here. However, I  would be extremely reluctant to spend any of my VAT money on anything other than VAT. If I do, what happens if I have no money in July to pay the deferred VAT.


I am very impressed, though, with Sunak's proposal to pay 80% of staff wages. I hope that our government beefs up its proposals in this regard. Otherwise, I will have to lay off people soon.

Lionel Hutz
Nr.Waterford , S E Ireland
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Gusty
20 March 2020 17:59:04


 Hopefully we can buy bottles and stand outside and drink. Or just go to the Tesco carpark


 

Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


It could be a good time to develop a little humanity and at the same time deal with the instant self gratification associated with alcohol addiction.

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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 17:59:41
I have to say that I'm impressed with the range of measures being rolled out from the Treasury. After an understandably slow start (given the unprecedented shocks to the economy) the steps should calm things down and I would expect the markets to react favourably again next week, subject to other news.

To an extent some of the other measures needed the financial safety net to be announced first, to avoid unnecessary anxiety amongst those facing no work for weeks/months to come. Arguably the government has been at least week too slow but I think you do need public opinion to be behind the measures and this week's news from here and elsewhere has underlined the seriousness of the challenge; something that has clearly escaped a portion of the population until now.
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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 18:00:37

Ok, since we are still allowed to go outside as much as we want,  people will find a way to congregate, perhaps in the supermarkets where they can tool up with booze and then go and find somewhere to drink it


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
westv
20 March 2020 18:00:41


 


It could be a good time to develop a little humanity and at the same time deal with the instant self and instant gratification associated with alcohol addiction.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


I'll raise a pint to that.

At least it will be mild!
Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 18:01:28

UK Data

66,976 have been tested +2,355

62,993 negative 

3,983 positive +714

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Is this a typo or some sort of joke?

Brian Gaze
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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 18:01:28




Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


That's good to see. Working together to make the best policy decisions.


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Justin W
20 March 2020 18:02:34


 


We've got a similar measure here. However, I  would be extremely reluctant to spend any of my VAT money on anything other than VAT. If I do, what happens if I have no money in July to pay the deferred VAT.


I am very impressed, though, with Sunak's proposal to pay 80% of staff wages. I hope that our government beefs up its proposals in this regard. Otherwise, I will have to lay off people soon.


Originally Posted by: Lionel Hutz 


We will apparently have until the end of the year to pay it back but I take your point.


 

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 18:04:07


Ok, since we are still allowed to go outside as much as we want,  people will find a way to congregate, perhaps in the supermarkets where they can tool up with booze and then go and find somewhere to drink it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


A perfect encapsulation of all that's wrong with the selfish attitude of a minority.


Pathetic.


I wish all those that put their short-term personal wants first could be identified and told there would be no place for them in hospital if they fall ill with Covid-19.  Maybe that message would get through their thick heads.


 

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Justin W
20 March 2020 18:06:15


Ok, since we are still allowed to go outside as much as we want,  people will find a way to congregate, perhaps in the supermarkets where they can tool up with booze and then go and find somewhere to drink it


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Stay classy, Croydon

Yo yo yo. 148-3 to the 3 to the 6 to the 9, representing the ABQ, what up, biatch?
Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 18:07:03

I have to say that I'm impressed with the range of measures being rolled out from the Treasury. After an understandably slow start (given the unprecedented shocks to the economy) the steps should calm things down and I would expect the markets to react favourably again next week, subject to other news.

To an extent some of the other measures needed the financial safety net to be announced first, to avoid unnecessary anxiety amongst those facing no work for weeks/months to come. Arguably the government has been at least week too slow but I think you do need public opinion to be behind the measures and this week's news from here and elsewhere has underlined the seriousness of the challenge; something that has clearly escaped a portion of the population until now.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Agree with this. The measures announced by Sunak are good. However, things are now moving so quickly I think this time next week a lot of today's announcements could be superseded.

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 18:07:11


 


We will apparently have until the end of the year to pay it back but I take your point.


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


I am certain that additional measures will be put in place come December if this is still on-going.  The government is doing this to help with cash flow and it would make no sense to end it abruptly if there is still a need to support the cash flow of business in nine months' time.

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Heavy Weather 2013
20 March 2020 18:07:27


 


Is this a typo or some sort of joke?


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 

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@Gavin - Are the number of deaths today correct. The number was higher on the news earlier.


@Brian - So much for the 10k tests. You'l notice these were released after the press conference. So much for the 10k per day. Yesterday he was going on about 250K

Mark
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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 18:07:34


 


A perfect encapsulation of all that's wrong with the selfish attitude of a minority.


Pathetic.


I wish all those that put their short-term personal wants first could be identified and told there would be no place for them in hospital if they fall ill with Covid-19.  Maybe that message would get through their thick heads.


 


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


You cant expect people, especially the young to stay indoors. People get bored and need fresh air. If you live in a big house with a garden its easier, but for the millions who live in flats etc, as long as they are still allowed to go out, they will, and they will go to the places that are still open - supermarkets, even just to chill out


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 18:08:32


 


Stay classy, Croydon


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


 


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Gandalf The White
20 March 2020 18:09:50


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@Gavin - Are the number of deaths today correct. The number was higher on the news earlier.


@Brian - So much for the 10k tests. You'l notice these were released after the press conference. So much for the 10k per day. Yesterday he was going on about 250K


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Do you think they can just magically go to 10k per day overnight?

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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 18:12:30


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@Gavin - Are the number of deaths today correct. The number was higher on the news earlier.


@Brian - So much for the 10k tests. You'l notice these were released after the press conference. So much for the 10k per day. Yesterday he was going on about 250K


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I worry that some of yesterday's "8000" tests were actually taken from today. It seems odd that we've gone from 8000 down to 2300 in a day. 

Brian Gaze
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Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 18:13:03


 


You cant expect people, especially the young to stay indoors. People get bored and need fresh air. If you live in a big house with a garden its easier, but for the millions who live in flats etc, as long as they are still allowed to go out, they will, and they will go to the places that are still open - supermarkets, even just to chill out


 


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


 



Brian Gaze
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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 18:13:52

You can see why Boris is more popular than Jesus. A rare thing for a politician to be both Teflon and have the Midas touch. He can get away with lying, philandering, aborting his own unwanted foetuses, wasting public money, undermining democracy,  and they still love him


Amazing. I take my hat off to him. He is the modern day Henry VIII or Emperor Nero


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Whether Idle
20 March 2020 18:14:07


 


 


A lot of it seems to be appearing on ebay


 


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tesco-Luxury-soft-9-Toilet-Rolls/223952162389?hash=item342496ce55%3Ag%3AqCUAAOSwsG9edMtR&LH_BIN=1


 


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


Send the [censored]some faeces so they can apply their toilet rolls to it. 

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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 18:16:52


 


 




Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Don't joke, A lot of his pubs have outside seating. I don't know how the rules will be enforced so he could sell takeaway beer in sealed plastic cups


 

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Brian Gaze
20 March 2020 18:18:31

Also the positive tests have increased from ~6% to ~20% overnight. Either something is very badly wrong or the virus has just exploded. I suppose another explanation is most of the tests were done in hot spots but that also seems questionable. My conclusion is one of:


1) NHS incompetence - I know from experience that tests can go missing, be duplicated or be garbage and need redoing


2) The UK death count is about to go through the roof 

Brian Gaze
Berkhamsted
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The Beast from the East
20 March 2020 18:19:31

"We have some alternative facts for you"
Kelly-Ann Conway - special adviser to the President
Bugglesgate
20 March 2020 18:20:41


 


Don't joke, A lot of his pubs have outside seating. I don't know how the rules will be enforced so he could sell takeaway beer in sealed plastic cups


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


As he was so belligerent  WRT complying with the sane requests  to voluntarily close I'm sure he will try something "weasely".  If he does, I sincerely hope the local authorities concerned won't hesitate to remove his licence to operate if at all possible - the bloke is a pillock of the first order

Chris (It,its)
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