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Rob K
22 March 2020 14:36:53


Meanwhile. At Tesco...


 




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


The supermarkets need to shut too. This madness can’t continue. But what is the alternative? Put together boxes of essential rationed food and deliver them to people’s doorsteps?


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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RobN
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22 March 2020 14:40:12


 


She sends her children to school, as she is the type of person the openings are for. Not for anyone and everyone who could find alternative arrangements but is too lazy or selfish. An acquaintance of my wife was up in arms that she couldn’t get key worker status. She’s a makeup artist!


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


Well apart from the free child care angle I expect there are many people would have difficulty grasping the idea that their work is non-essential.


Society is an integrated machine, it's difficult to remove many parts of it before the whole thing stops working.


Like the Chinese we might have to build a few new hospitals before the second wave - think how many jobs and skills that involves. 


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Gavin D
22 March 2020 14:43:15
Timpsons have announced they are closing all 2,150 shops by 5pm tomorrow all staff will remain on full pay

Northern Sky
22 March 2020 14:47:51


Meanwhile. At Tesco...


 



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


That's Seacroft Tesco's. Not the most pleasant of places at the best of times.


I went to Waitrose in Otley yesterday and it was fine, pretty much a normal Saturday although a little bit low on fresh fruit and veg - still plenty though.

Gavin D
22 March 2020 14:50:39
Northern Ireland have announced a 2nd death. An elderly patient with an underlying medical condition.
speckledjim
22 March 2020 14:53:00


 


 


Few small groups otherwise it looks fairly quiet


https://magicseaweed.com/Live-Bournemouth-Webcam/16/


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I’ve got friends at Filey beach and they’re reporting it as quiet


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
speckledjim
22 March 2020 14:56:13


 


That's Seacroft Tesco's. Not the most pleasant of places at the best of times.


I went to Waitrose in Otley yesterday and it was fine, pretty much a normal Saturday although a little bit low on fresh fruit and veg - still plenty though.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Seacroft Tesco is my local one, agreed not the most pleasant and I’m not surprised at the queues considering the clientele. I’ll be off to my local Waitrose tomorrow and hopefully it’ll be as pleasant as it normally is.


Thorner, West Yorkshire


Journalism is organised gossip
Gandalf The White
22 March 2020 15:05:39


 


That's Seacroft Tesco's. Not the most pleasant of places at the best of times.


I went to Waitrose in Otley yesterday and it was fine, pretty much a normal Saturday although a little bit low on fresh fruit and veg - still plenty though.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


It's good to have some local knowledge for context, thanks.


Saw someone carrying toilet rolls on Friday and it turned out to be from the local cut-price supermarket in town. Went in out of curiosity to discover a queue of about 30-40 people trying to check out. It's not a large shop either.


Tesco Express had a reasonable amount of stock but no toilet paper; apparently what they received that morning was gone within 30 minutes!


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Bugglesgate
22 March 2020 15:12:32


 


The supermarkets need to shut too. This madness can’t continue. But what is the alternative? Put together boxes of essential rationed food and deliver them to people’s doorsteps?


Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I agree some people - OK  A LOT of people aren't taking this seriously.  I have a summer car (MX5) that has been stuck in the garage for months so  decided to give it a run out this afternoon.  Went up out the village  across White Hill towards Whitchurch in a loop and back home.


 At White Hill beauty spot I seriously couldn't believe it ! It was chock-a-block.  The car park was full and there were cars for about 1/4 mile by the side of the road.  -  I have NEVER seen it that busy in the 20 years I have lived in the village.  People were milling around in groups and chatting - no one seemed to be keeping 1 Ft distance between them let alone 2M.  I really despair. People are too dim for social distancing to work.  They  simply don't have the mental framework or discipline to deviate one iota from  following   through every random through that floats through their brain "I know Mildred, lets go for a nice walk  this  afternoon". Group think that 2000 times and you have a problem  if you don't have the wit to  deviate from your plan when you see 1999 other have the same idea - Of course none of the other 1999 have any intention of deviating from their whim either


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westv
22 March 2020 15:12:58
When toilet roll runs out the sh*t will hit the fan!
At least it will be mild!
Darren S
22 March 2020 15:17:57

I was quite shocked just now to see this post from one of our family friends, who we meet up with quite regularly. They live in North London, and she travels in to London by tube for work - though by the sounds of it, she caught it either from her father, sister or sister-in-law. She's mid-40s and doesn't have any specific health issues I'm aware of.



It come in waves. Makes you think you're fine, and then hits you hard and fast.


For the first 80 hours, I was mostly asleep. Sometimes, when I woke up, I'd feel well enough to log in and chat to work colleagues, concentrate and work.


It started with extreme tiredness. Accompanied by body aches - every joint from ankles to shoulders. And a headache from hell - worse than any that I have had before. A fever and shivers. There were a few coughing fits. At times, a painful, dry sandpaper throat.



The weirdest thing about this illness is the rate of deterioration. In the space of an hour, I went from feeling fine, to struggling for air (sorry for the gory details but it was accompanied by stuff exiting both ends simultaneously while I was burning up, just wanted to add it for completeness) and calling an ambulance. It all happened so quickly.


A word of advice - if someone in your family has it, and you have isolated from them, don't blare music or watch a movie with your headphones on!!! Shouting for help is impossible when you don't have enough air to breathe!


I don't need a test to know for sure that I have COVID-19. It's more contagious than flu. My 2 kids, husband, father, sister, and sister-in-law all have symptoms that began in the last 5 days. I was the second, and so far, the worst hit. I've never had a breathing problem before.


Over here, we aren't being tested. The few tests they have are being used in hospitals to work out whether people have recovered, so that a bed can be freed up. The paramedic who saw me said there were 9500 ambulance jobs in London that day. Double their usual. The 'UK number of cases' is severely distorted.


I've shared my story to let people know what it's like. To raise awareness, much needed at a time when little is known about this virus. It's one thing to wash your hands for 20 seconds. But what do you do when you actually get it? How do you know you have it when you can't be tested? How do you all self isolate for 14 days when you can't get enough food from the shops? What happens after you have it? Can I give it to my parents? Can I get it again? I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but the reality is that most of us will probably get it.
May all your loved ones stay safe xxx



Darren
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Rob K
22 March 2020 15:23:44
Doesn’t sound much fun does it Darren? I think the GI issues mentioned in that post are fairly rare aren’t they? I mention that because stupid as it may sound I have something of a phobia of vomiting, mainly because I have never done so since I was a child!
Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Perthite1
22 March 2020 15:24:01
A quick report from here in Perth, Western Australia. We are the most remote city in the World, but with international air travel we now have 120 cases and yesterday the first reported community transmission. The has spiked today with 30 cases. All pubs, gyms etc are closing tomorrow, we are hoping to get ahead of the game. What is interesting here is that the weather is very warm. We are looking at 34-35c for most of this week with temps not dropping out of the 20's at night. Therefore we are a bit of a test case for hot weather transmission. I have seen a couple of scientists who have stated that heat will not have much impact with this virus, we will see this week.
Perthite1
22 March 2020 15:28:31


I was quite shocked just now to see this post from one of our family friends, who we meet up with quite regularly. They live in North London, and she travels in to London by tube for work - though by the sounds of it, she caught it either from her father, sister or sister-in-law. She's mid-40s and doesn't have any specific health issues I'm aware of.


 


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


It certainly gives pause for thought. We are all at risk, this is not just a case of protecting the elderly. 

Joe Bloggs
22 March 2020 15:30:13

Doesn’t sound much fun does it Darren? I think the GI issues mentioned in that post are fairly rare aren’t they? I mention that because stupid as it may sound I have something of a phobia of vomiting, mainly because I have never done so since I was a child!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


I have vomit phobia too Rob. Quite common. 


Vomiting doesn’t sound like a common symptom so don’t worry. 



Manchester City Centre, 31m ASL

Roger Parsons
22 March 2020 15:31:24


I was quite shocked just now to see this post from one of our family friends, who we meet up with quite regularly. They live in North London, and she travels in to London by tube for work - though by the sounds of it, she caught it either from her father, sister or sister-in-law. She's mid-40s and doesn't have any specific health issues I'm aware of.


Originally Posted by: Darren S 

A tough read, Darren - I hope they all get over it OK. Roger


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Northern Sky
22 March 2020 15:33:12


I was quite shocked just now to see this post from one of our family friends, who we meet up with quite regularly. They live in North London, and she travels in to London by tube for work - though by the sounds of it, she caught it either from her father, sister or sister-in-law. She's mid-40s and doesn't have any specific health issues I'm aware of.


 


Originally Posted by: Darren S 


I'm not sure it does me any good to read stuff like this. I'm trying to remind myself that lots of people have less severe symptoms.

Rob K
22 March 2020 15:33:46


 


I have vomit phobia too Rob. Quite common. 


Vomiting doesn’t sound like a common symptom so don’t worry. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Having two children has probably done something to cure it anyway!


There is plenty more serious to worry about with this illness, of course. 


My eye has just been drawn to a high altitude airliner heading west out of the window. There are definitely a lot fewer of them - normally the sky in this area is crisscrossed with them all day. FR24 tells me it’s an Air France 777 from Paris to Boston. I wonder how many people are on it!


Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
Joe Bloggs
22 March 2020 15:34:15

As much as these personal accounts are informative, I think everyone reacts to this virus ever so slightly differently. 


I’m trying to take some reassurance from the fact that many people don’t have an experience quite as bad as Darren’s friend, at least I hope so. 


Trying to find RELIABLE, personal accounts seems quite difficult - has anyone found any less dramatic accounts of what it’s like to have COVID-19? Hopefully for some people it isn’t that bad. 



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Brian Gaze
22 March 2020 15:35:52

Some truly horrendous reports now emerging in the UK. Similar to what we've been hearing from Italy:


Three junior doctors at the same NHS hospital have contracted coronavirus, it is reported.


It is believed the professionals, each aged 30, are on ventilators and are being treated by colleagues at Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow, northwest London


...


“It is beginning to affect a lot more young people. Some will get mild symptoms — but not all will, and what has happened to the junior doctors shows that.”


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-three-doctors-aged-30-21734594

 


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Joe Bloggs
22 March 2020 15:43:22


As much as these personal accounts are informative, I think everyone reacts to this virus ever so slightly differently. 


I’m trying to take some reassurance from the fact that many people don’t have an experience quite as bad as Darren’s friend, at least I hope so. 


Trying to find RELIABLE, personal accounts seems quite difficult - has anyone found any less dramatic accounts of what it’s like to have COVID-19? Hopefully for some people it isn’t that bad. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


To add, it’s probably the case that accounts of what it’s like to have COVID-19 found online are likely to the ones which are more dramatic and unpleasant, especially those on news websites. 



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pfw
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22 March 2020 15:44:06

Went for a run this morning. One of those lovely early spring days here where the air temp is around freezing but the sun is starting to have some warmth.


Extremely quiet, almost no traffic. More birdsong than usual, although that may have been wishful thinking. Almost everyone practicing good social distancing - as soon as I saw anyone I either ran on the road for a while or crossed over. Don't think I was within 5m of another person the whole time. It feels unnatural to move away from someone when you see them approaching but a wave and a "good morning" usually offsets this.


Meanwhile:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-house-returns-1.5506049


Govt. expecting social distancing measures here to last "months" and police in some provinces being given the power to issue tickets for people flouting the rules.


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22 March 2020 15:45:39

Doesn’t sound much fun does it Darren? I think the GI issues mentioned in that post are fairly rare aren’t they? I mention that because stupid as it may sound I have something of a phobia of vomiting, mainly because I have never done so since I was a child!

Originally Posted by: Rob K 


From the Lancet paper by the Chinese doctors who reported on one of the first clusters of cases:


Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38), haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38). Dyspnoea developed in 22 (55%) of 40 patients (median time from illness onset to dyspnoea 8·0 days [IQR 5·0–13·0]). 26 (63%) of 41 patients had lymphopenia. All 41 patients had pneumonia with abnormal findings on chest CT. Complications included acute respiratory distress syndrome (12 [29%]), RNAaemia (six [15%]), acute cardiac injury (five [12%]) and secondary infection (four [10%]). 13 (32%) patients were admitted to an ICU and six (15%) died. 


Vomiting not mentioned. Only 1 out of 41 with diarrhoea.


Trouble is there's a lot of other infections going the rounds. A lot of people with symptoms are convinced they've got it or had it, but there's no reliable way of telling for sure without being tested.


Rob
In the flatlands of South Cambridgeshire 15m ASL.
Quantum
22 March 2020 15:46:31


Went for a run this morning. One of those lovely early spring days here where the air temp is around freezing but the sun is starting to have some warmth.


Extremely quiet, almost no traffic. More birdsong than usual, although that may have been wishful thinking. Almost everyone practicing good social distancing - as soon as I saw anyone I either ran on the road for a while or crossed over. Don't think I was within 5m of another person the whole time. It feels unnatural to move away from someone when you see them approaching but a wave and a "good morning" usually offsets this.


Meanwhile:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-house-returns-1.5506049


Govt. expecting social distancing measures here to last "months" and police in some provinces being given the power to issue tickets for people flouting the rules.


Originally Posted by: pfw 


I'm going to try and do a run at 5:30am tommorow in the most secluded part of the neighborhood. It will still be darkish at that time but probably just light enough to see where I'm going.


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29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
Bolty
22 March 2020 15:48:18


As much as these personal accounts are informative, I think everyone reacts to this virus ever so slightly differently. 


I’m trying to take some reassurance from the fact that many people don’t have an experience quite as bad as Darren’s friend, at least I hope so. 


Trying to find RELIABLE, personal accounts seems quite difficult - has anyone found any less dramatic accounts of what it’s like to have COVID-19? Hopefully for some people it isn’t that bad. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


I think it's hard to get something truly reliable. As you say every infected person will react to it in a different way. Some will get such mild symptoms that they don't really notice anything, whilst others will be hit more severely and require hospitalisation.


I think it's just a case of taking it day-by-day. Do what you can to prevent yourself and others in your house from becoming ill and using your wits and common sense. At the same time, it's important to not worry too much (as it weakens you after all). If you do catch it then it will just be a case of isolating yourself as much as possible and monitoring your symptoms, and if you require hospital treatment then it is what it is. At least if you can look back and say you did everything you could to keep yourself and your family safe, that's the main thing.


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