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Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:19:11
Rate of new infections has slowed again in Italy from 9% yesterday to 8.1%
Gooner
23 March 2020 17:20:28



Don't know what will happen if food shops are closed. I know lockdowns are necessary to help stop the virus spread, but some people of course could starve. Those who have panic buy will now say their actions are justified.

I never went out to panic buy because I did not want to be part of the problem (including risking that I could pass on the virus), and feel that other people should have the essentials.


Originally Posted by: ozone_aurora 


Food and medical shops will stay open , they are the only essentials 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:20:40
4,790 new cases and 602 new deaths in Italy 

New cases down by 470 New deaths down by 41

Changes with yesterday
Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 17:20:42


Some interesting stats from the Tele, sourced via Imperial College.


 


The key thing, of course, is knowing how mnay asymptomatic cases there are - and how many are so mild, symptoms-wise, that they're not on the radar.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/23/government-coronavirus-advice-walk-friends-gp-gym/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr


 


 






























































Age group % symptomatic cases requiring hospital % hospitalised cases requiring critical care Infection Fatality Ratio
0 to 90.1%5%0.002%
10 to 190.3%5%0.006%
20 to 291.2%5%0.03%
30 to 393.2%5%0.08%
40 to 494.9%6.3%0.15%
50 to 5910.2%12.2%0.60%
60 to 6916.6%27.4%2.2%
70 to 7924.3%43.2%5.1%
80+27.3%70.9%9.3%

 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


Interesting analysis, Darren.


A quick calculation gives a 1 in 20k chance of requiring critical care if you're under 10; 1 in 600 if you're 30-39; 1 in 300 for 40-49;  rising to 1 in 25 in the 60-69 band and jumping to 1 in 9 for the 70-79 group. 


The fatality rates against those suggest if you end up in intensive care you've a 40%-50% chance of not pulling through.  That doesn't seem to vary very much across the age bands, for some reason: nearer 40% at the bottom and closer to 50% at the upper end.  That seems horribly high to me.


You can see why they want to try to protect the over-70s.  


I suspect the figures are heavily influenced in the older groups by the high likelihood of one or more other medical conditions.


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ozone_aurora
23 March 2020 17:20:48


 


Supermarkets will be kept opened


Originally Posted by: Jonesy 


Oh, I see. Thanks. :)

ozone_aurora
23 March 2020 17:21:59


 


Food and medical shops will stay open , they are the only essentials 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Oh, I see. Okay, thanks. 

Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:26:44

2-weeks since the full Italian lockdown and finally some light at the end of the tunnel


 


 



Gooner
23 March 2020 17:28:23


2-weeks since the full Italian lockdown and finally some light at the end of the tunnel


 


 




Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


I wonder how long they keep them locked down, a further 2 to 3 weeks ?


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:30:53


 I wonder how long they keep them locked down, a further 2 to 3 weeks ?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


 


That's the crucial thing. The move to unlock the nation will have to be taken very carefully and slowly otherwise cases could rocket again before they know it.

xioni2
23 March 2020 17:33:45


 I wonder how long they keep them locked down, a further 2 to 3 weeks ?


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


As long as it takes is what the Italian PM has said.

Heavy Weather 2013
23 March 2020 17:35:04
Have the UK test results been announced yet?
Mark
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23 March 2020 17:38:43

Probably already covered but at my local Sainsbury's this morning, during the over 70's hour, there was no checks as to who was going in.  I challenged a security guy as to why they were not asking for id, he replied not today.  There seemed quite a number of people obviously under 70 but they may be priority cases, one chap waved a piece of paper saying he had cancer.  Of course, some may have been key workers.  In any case, although not packed, it was nigh impossible to keep the recommended 2m distance.  The four big supermarkets have no delivery or click and collect slots available for the next 3 weeks.  I overheard a Sainsbury's click and collect operative saying he only serviced 3 slots yesterday. 


Pat, Crawley Down, West Sussex.
Heavy Weather 2013
23 March 2020 17:38:56
Just hearing a story of someone who had COVID 19. Was put into Intensive care. 39 YO

Sounds like a nightmare over a few days to get through to 111. Eventually had to call 999. Test took 2 days to come back.

Initially just given antibiotics


Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
David M Porter
23 March 2020 17:40:42


The pictures of the tube Gavin posted made me feel physically sick.


London is a disaster waiting to happen. 


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


If I was someone living in London, I would have got out at least three weeks ago.


I have a cousin, originally from Glasgow, who lives in London and is training to be an accountant at the moment. Needless to say I am pretty concerned for her well-being right now.


The government should have made every effort to get on top of the coronavirus issue at least two months ago instead of waiting so many weeks until the start of March, by which time it was pretty apparent that this country was in real danger of a widespread outbreak.


If the worst does happen in this country, both in terms of the human cost and the economic one, I think Johnson and his government will never be forgiven by a great many people.


Lenzie, Glasgow

"Let us not take ourselves too seriously. None of us has a monopoly on wisdom, and we must always be ready to listen and respect other points of view."- Queen Elizabeth II 1926-2022
xioni2
23 March 2020 17:42:40






Gooner
23 March 2020 17:44:49








Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Shameful 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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xioni2
23 March 2020 17:46:23

For the first time the number of hospital admissions has dropped in Lombardy (9266 today vs 9439 yesterday).

Jonesy
23 March 2020 17:46:27








Originally Posted by: xioni2 


And to think they probably now back in the UK, hopefully in quarantine. 


Medway Towns (Kent)
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Gooner
23 March 2020 17:49:33

Just thinking about self isolating 


7 days for self isolating if you live on your own


14 days if there is a family …..……….but if there is a family of 4 , are they expecting the other 3 to be clear on day 14? why isn't it 7 days per person?


Thick question I know 


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Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
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Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:50:41
UK data

5,605 tests, 967 were confirmed as positive, confirmed rate is 17.25%.
Bugglesgate
23 March 2020 17:51:52


 


If I was someone living in London, I would have got out at least three weeks ago.


I have a cousin, originally from Glasgow, who lives in London and is training to be an accountant at the moment. Needless to say I am pretty concerned for her well-being right now.


The government should have made every effort to get on top of the coronavirus issue at least two months ago instead of waiting so many weeks until the start of March, by which time it was pretty apparent that this country was in real danger of a widespread outbreak.


If the worst does happen in this country, both in terms of the human cost and the economic one, I think Johnson and his government will never be forgiven by a great many people.


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


 


My sister is now in isolation after one of her friends went down with it !  Stupid woman went to a load of concerts, clubs, pubs  and  criss crossed London on the Tube  over a number of days - went on a right "bender" by the sounds of it -  well after the lock-down had been mooted but  just before everything was locked down (probably why she did it !!)   Only mentioned this to my sis and her other half after she had been a passenger in their car for a few hours - a few days later she gets symptoms.  I don't like my sis's chances  of not getting it.  It's especially concerning as she's asthmatic.  With friends like that who the hell needs enemies.   The words selfish, self centred bint don't cover it !  and she's far from stupid, so  it makes it much worse     


 


It's beginning to look like it's very widespread in London - bit of a test case really, if teh death rate rockets in the next few days we're screwed, if not it implies  there are a lot of mild cases out there.  My sis's friend is  very "groggy" at home but so far has avoided professional medical assistance - she is early 60s,


 


 


 


Chris (It,its)
Between Newbury and Basingstoke
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Brian Gaze
23 March 2020 17:52:34

UK data

5,605 tests, 967 were confirmed as positive, confirmed rate is 17.25%.


Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


UK figures seem to be jumping around ridiculously. In recent days haven't they been something like 20%, 8%, 11% and 17.25%?


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Gavin D
23 March 2020 17:53:23
302 additional positive tests to 9am today compared to yesterday in the UK

Regional English data will be out later tonight
westv
23 March 2020 17:53:29








Originally Posted by: xioni2 


RT? Very reliable news LOL!


At least it will be mild!
Jonesy
23 March 2020 17:54:16

UK data

5,605 tests, 967 were confirmed as positive, confirmed rate is 17.25%.

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


Hi Gav, do you have a link to these figures please?


Medway Towns (Kent)
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