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Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 22:51:13


 


He's saying the cure (closing down the economy) is worse than the medical problem.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Except that's not the issue. The issue is what happens when he's the one laying on the floor in an overloaded hospital, gasping for breath and with no hope of getting an intensive care bed.  Given his age I assume he wouldn't be a priority for attention?


😉


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Gandalf The White
23 March 2020 22:52:40


 


......... till he's on his back in hospital with it. Then of course it will be different.


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


Snap!


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fairweather
23 March 2020 23:01:59


 


Hi xioni


My real fear wrt the economy in the long run is that from some of what I am hearing, we could be facing the sort of situation again that we were not far short of a century ago, namely the Wall Street Crash of 1929 and the depression that came after it which lasted for much of the 1930s.


Even once the worst effects of this virus on human health have gone, whenever that is, I fear that the economic damage could take many, many years to repair, if full repair is even going to be possible.


Hope you stay safe and well!


Originally Posted by: David M Porter 


I'm not convinced that any of the previous crashes will be relevant to what happens after this. For a start most developed Countries were in a reasonably healthy economic state before this. They weren't in previous ones. Also, things are more volatile in both directions than they were a hundred years ago. I suspect the businesses that survive will really boom as people catch up and new companies will fill the gaps left by those that went bust. I suppose that is one of the benefits of market forces. But that is on a more local scale compared to the effect on Government spending. Surely income tax will rise and it should have before all this to have funded the contingency for such a pandemic. Their shortsighted outlook has cost them dear. I'm surprised there has been no talk of suspending Brexit. Why spend even more money and cause more uncertainty? People will surely be looking for stability and a comfort blanket after this hammer blow.


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crazysaint
23 March 2020 23:06:27
Any idea about construction sites? Without Boris stating we can't return to site I'm still liable for delay penalties i.e thousands of pounds per week!!
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fairweather
23 March 2020 23:06:32


 


Except that's not the issue. The issue is what happens when he's the one laying on the floor in an overloaded hospital, gasping for breath and with no hope of getting an intensive care bed.  Given his age I assume he wouldn't be a priority for attention?


😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Snap !


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Saint Snow
23 March 2020 23:07:28

What about those country hotels with bars and restaurants.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


Depends if the owners are in the same Lodge as the Chief Superintendent. 



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fairweather
23 March 2020 23:09:17


 


Snap!


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


That is scary, not only did I post the same as you I then simultaneously posted "snap exclamation mark" without seeing yours


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Saint Snow
23 March 2020 23:10:23


 


Except that's not the issue. The issue is what happens when he's the one laying on the floor in an overloaded hospital, gasping for breath and with no hope of getting an intensive care bed.  Given his age I assume he wouldn't be a priority for attention?


😉


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


 


But he's fit. Fittest president ever. His personal doctor says he's got the fitness and health of someone a fraction of his age. So fit. Fit and healthy.



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westv
23 March 2020 23:12:33


 


So, does that rule out the likes of butchers and bakers that sell food? Most people around here rely on such shops for their ‘essentials’.


Originally Posted by: Tractor Boy 


The following are allowed in addition to supermarkets.



  • Food delivery and takeaways.

  • Cafés or canteens at hospitals, care homes or schools; prison and military canteens; services providing food or drink to the homeless.

  • Supermarkets and other food shops, health shops, pharmacies including nondispensing pharmacies, petrol stations, bicycle shops, home and hardware shops, laundrettes and dry cleaners, bicycle shops, garages, car rentals, pet shops, corner shops, newsagents, post offices, and banks.

  • Market stalls which offer essential retail, such as grocery and food.


 


 


At least it will be mild!
Heavy Weather 2013
23 March 2020 23:13:43
Mike Ashley has confirmed all sports direct shops will remain open.

He says that home gym equipment constitute an essential service.

He is just as bad as Tim Martin. Worse in fact.
Mark
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John p
23 March 2020 23:20:21
The U.S is in huge trouble - Trump is unhinged and nobody has the guts to call him out on it.
It seems he’s going to lift restrictions shortly and let the virus run rampant!
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RobN
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23 March 2020 23:31:48

UK death count does look like it's beginning to roll off. Good to see but God knows why given our late response.


US, France, Spain trajectories still looking bad.



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David M Porter
23 March 2020 23:32:11

Mike Ashley has confirmed all sports direct shops will remain open.

He says that home gym equipment constitute an essential service.

He is just as bad as Tim Martin. Worse in fact.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


Surely these places can't stay open if the police are granted the authority ton force them to close.


Nicola Sturgeon said something on Sunday about taking such action against any businesses in Scotland that refused to shut their doors voluntarily.


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Saint Snow
23 March 2020 23:58:30

Mike Ashley has confirmed all sports direct shops will remain open.

He says that home gym equipment constitute an essential service.

He is just as bad as Tim Martin. Worse in fact.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


 


He's an utter slug.



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Gandalf The White
24 March 2020 00:10:38

Mike Ashley has confirmed all sports direct shops will remain open.

He says that home gym equipment constitute an essential service.

He is just as bad as Tim Martin. Worse in fact.

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


If people follow the instructions then he won’t have any customers unless the shop is next door to a food shop.


I wonder if he’s aware of the reputational damage?


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bowser
24 March 2020 00:12:55
His reputation is highly damaged anyway, hence his attitude perhaps?
Gandalf The White
24 March 2020 00:16:23

His reputation is highly damaged anyway, hence his attitude perhaps?

Originally Posted by: bowser 


Maybe, but he runs a successful business and he’d be mad to jeopardise that.  Remember a boss of a well-known jewellery chain many years ago? One crass comment trashed his brand value.


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Gandalf The White
24 March 2020 00:18:03


UK death count does look like it's beginning to roll off. Good to see but God knows why given our late response.


US, France, Spain trajectories still looking bad.



Originally Posted by: RobN 


I’m sure there are reasons; one will be the measures that were taken a week or two back, however half-hearted.


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Caz
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24 March 2020 05:23:37


 


If people follow the instructions then he won’t have any customers unless the shop is next door to a food shop.


I wonder if he’s aware of the reputational damage?


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 

Although bicycle shops are specifically on the list of retailers that can open.  Most small Sports Direct stores closed two weeks ago, the ones selling clothing, only large stores selling equipment were kept open.


I think it will be another blow to his reputation because he’s already been tarred.  Nobody mentioned that he’d offered his lorries and drivers to help supermarkets distribute to stores, because nobody wants to un-tar him.  That’s life!


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Caz
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24 March 2020 05:53:06

Can anyone clarify what is meant by gatherings in public of no more than two people?  


I understand only going for walks with members of your household.  But  gatherings of no more than two, effectively means I could meet my sister and go for our morning power walk, even though she doesn’t live with me.  A little confused about that and can’t find anything about it.  We’re suspending our walks until we’re sure. 


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Sevendust
24 March 2020 06:08:06


Can anyone clarify what is meant by gatherings in public of no more than two people?  


I understand only going for walks with members of your household.  But  gatherings of no more than two, effectively means I could meet my sister and go for our morning power walk, even though she doesn’t live with me.  A little confused about that and can’t find anything about it.  We’re suspending our walks until we’re sure. 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


It's a good point. I suppose it allows for chance encounters and assumes social distancing will be observed

Tim A
24 March 2020 06:12:14
Re the walks Boris made an effort to say no more than groups of two unless it is your own household . To me that means you could meet someone as long as you stayed more than 2 metres. I would only do if it was really neccesary for mental/health wellbeing though.


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Tim A
24 March 2020 06:16:10

Some queries I cannot find the answer to and perhaps someone might be able to assist:
Car MOT due 9 April. I would have to drive 3/4 mile drop off and either walk back or get a lift from someone else I dont live with as we only have 1 car in the household. What to do?

Gas safety check on a rental house is due next week, what to do.  Can it be postponed, i percieve the risk as low.

Tenant is moving out of another rental house 31st March. They have all but moved out now anyway. They will need the deposit back in these difficult times but I would need to check the house first and secure it for piece of mind. What to do.


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Caz
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24 March 2020 06:16:37


It's a good point. I suppose it allows for chance encounters and assumes social distancing will be observed


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

Thanks. It is a bit odd. 


Here’s another point!  My sister and I work together.  She doesn’t drive. I drive us both to work, so how would that work.  We’re not at work today but are expecting to be working from home, in my conservatory, on a job that needs two people!


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Caz
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24 March 2020 06:18:45

Re the walks Boris made an effort to say no more than groups of two unless it is your own household . To me that means you could meet someone as long as you stayed more than 2 metres. I would only do if it was really neccesary for mental/health wellbeing though.

Originally Posted by: Tim A 

Thanks!  I think my sister and I would both go mental if we didn’t see each other every day!   


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