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ozone_aurora
14 April 2020 16:07:04

Can someone please create a pensions thread!

Originally Posted by: westv 


Just created a thread. Hope no-one minds the non-moderator for doing so. :)

Gavin D
14 April 2020 16:14:05

Daily slides


Transport usage is coming down



New cases have gone up since yesterday. Overall they do seem to be levelling off with day to day variations



Hospital patients are starting to become more stable. Down 2% nationally and 15% in the East of England



Deaths no real change which it won't do so for a while with the lag


Gavin D
14 April 2020 16:20:47
Chief Medical Director: The number of Covid-19 hospitalisations are stabilising and plateauing.
speckledjim
14 April 2020 16:22:44
Hospital admissions down, time to reopen garden centres 😎
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Jiries
14 April 2020 16:25:09


 


Yes I hope so too. You are right about their working conditions. had friends living and working out there who said the same. 


Originally Posted by: fairweather 


My finance stuck in Sharjah, UAE as she was a oversea fiipina worker.  We applied for finacee visa and she got the supporting documents but our solictor who got virus in March did not return to work to reply our emails and to book her appointment to take TB tests and give the documents at UKVi office.  Her sisters also stuck there and cannot travel back to Philppines so they are so bored stuck inside the house.  I just wish the solicitor or have another one to act for her to update us what happening as I paid the premium 30 days service which she should be here in end of March.  I was in Dubai in Sept and Dec 2019 and everything was normal there.  We both wish we had applied in October last year if we had knew the virus screwed it and delay it.  I talked to her about my premium service to be refunded because it already exceed 30 days and solictor did not make any updates on us so leaving us in limbo.  She so bored of waiting and lately play guitar or dance with her sister to pass time while I build few Lego sets to keep me busy when I have no Lego orders here as I work from home.  I will apply for career break from work so no more long travel and hotels costs and when she finally come here don;t want to leave her behind and go full time in Lego.

Brian Gaze
14 April 2020 16:39:29

19,706 in hospital with Covid-19 down from 20,185 yesterday

Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


 Encouraging. Definitely stabilising at the least.


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Brian Gaze
14 April 2020 16:43:48

Q: Isn’t is just unfair to produce a graph comparing UK figures, without care home deaths, to French figures, with care home deaths? (See 5.10pm.) On a like by like basis, the UK would be ahead of France, wouldn’t it?


Doyle accepts it would be better if the figures did compare like with like. The government is always ready to learn, she says.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2020/apr/14/coronavirus-uk-live-news-lockdown-extended-peak-dominic-raab-boris-johnson-latest-updates


 


Very naughty of the UK govt. The French provide care home deaths as a separate count and there is no need for them to be included. 


 


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Roger Parsons
14 April 2020 16:58:47


New thread required. 


You might like to ponder the logic of blaming the property shortage on those sitting on a gain from their residential property.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 



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SJV
14 April 2020 17:05:37

Does anyone think these briefings are becoming more about patting themselves on the back for a job badly done?

Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 


I used to watch them live when all this was developing but now whenever I do I find them largely useless and the questions are often not strong enough. I'm resorting to seeing the bullet-point summary of what was said.

Gandalf The White
14 April 2020 17:16:32


Daily slides


Transport usage is coming down



Originally Posted by: Gavin D 


It's impressive to see how road traffic fell quite sharply over Easter. I assume that reflects fewer lorries on the road as much as people sharing at home for Easter.


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Darren S
14 April 2020 17:16:54

The Government Covid-19 tracker has been discontinued and replaced with this, which seems somewhat inferior:


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Strangely, the graph of new cases (a) is only for England, (b) bears no relation to the figures previously shown on the old Dashboard, in the press conferences and from other sources, and (c) shows a huge fall in positive tests, from 4,339 on 7th April to just 104 yesterday. I'm assuming this chart shows tests by the date of test rather than the date of the result. But why do this?


Darren
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Darren S
14 April 2020 17:19:13


It's impressive to see how road traffic fell quite sharply over Easter. I assume that reflects fewer lorries on the road as much as people sharing at home for Easter.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


Following Government advice, on Easter Sunday there should have been virtually no traffic at all. All supermarkets were closed, pharmacies as well I presume; I also presume you couldn't have got a delivery? Yet there were still some cars coming and going, albeit far fewer than normal.


Our next door neighbour and his (adult) son disappeared early on Sunday morning and didn't come back until Monday evening, though the wife and two other kids stayed home. No idea where they went or why but I'm not going to ask!


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
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2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
The Beast from the East
14 April 2020 17:25:24


 


 Encouraging. Definitely stabilising at the least.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


I think we are past the peak and deaths will start dropping to 500 a day next week and maybe 300 the week after


Is that acceptable enough to ease the lockdown?


As for Nightingale being unused, we may still need it for the second wave in the Autumn


The second wave of Spanish flu was much worse that the first, though a very different type of virus of course


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Brian Gaze
14 April 2020 17:36:58


 


I think we are past the peak and deaths will start dropping to 500 a day next week and maybe 300 the week after


Is that acceptable enough to ease the lockdown?


As for Nightingale being unused, we may still need it for the second wave in the Autumn


The second wave of Spanish flu was much worse that the first, though a very different type of virus of course


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


I think we should first see what happens in countries that are easing their lockdowns now. In a sense we're in a fortunate position again of being able to learn from what happens elsewhere. 


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Retron
14 April 2020 17:55:23

Duh. Looks like a bishop found his faith was misplaced! From CNN:


"Bishop Gerald Glenn, the pastor of New Deliverance Evangelistic Church in Virginia has died, the church announced on Sunday. Glenn had tested positive for coronavirus, according to a video posted by his daughter Mar-Gerie Crawley.


Despite warnings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to avoid mass gatherings and maintain social distancing, Glenn said in a sermon on March 22, "I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus," and announced he was not afraid to die."
 
https://us.cnn.com/2020/04/14/us/bishop-gerald-glenn-god-larger-coronavirus-dies/index.html
 
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Northern Sky
14 April 2020 17:56:20

I might be being a bit thick here but when we started the lockdown there was a small number of people in the country with the virus which has resulted in the deaths we are seeing. We have stopped the exponential growth with a pretty strict lockdown but when that stops in what looks like a few weeks what is going to stop another big rise in cases? In fact surely the rise will be greater as the virus has a greater presence than when we started the lockdown and it seems we are a long way from having enough of the population immune to curtail its spread? 

David M Porter
14 April 2020 17:57:37


 


 Encouraging. Definitely stabilising at the least.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed.


Let's hope that we are close to turning the tide, at least to a degree.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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David M Porter
14 April 2020 18:00:30


I might be being a bit thick here but when we started the lockdown there was a small number of people in the country with the virus which has resulted in the deaths we are seeing. We have stopped the exponential growth with a pretty strict lockdown but when that stops in what looks like a few weeks what is going to stop another big rise in cases? In fact surely the rise will be greater as the virus has a greater presence than when we started the lockdown and it seems we are a long way from having enough of the population immune to curtail its spread? 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


My own view is that the lockdown cannot be lifted 100% until there is either a vaccine or some other treatment that can get this country over the worst of the virus. I think that as long as there is neither a vaccine nor a proven treatment, restrictions on what we can and cannot do outside are almost certain to continue, even if not on the scale of the present time.


Lenzie, Glasgow

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Gooner
14 April 2020 18:16:20


 


 Encouraging. Definitely stabilising at the least.


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


And this is now the critical point , what is the number needed for the relaxing of restrictions to be introduced 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



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Gooner
14 April 2020 18:23:09


I might be being a bit thick here but when we started the lockdown there was a small number of people in the country with the virus which has resulted in the deaths we are seeing. We have stopped the exponential growth with a pretty strict lockdown but when that stops in what looks like a few weeks what is going to stop another big rise in cases? In fact surely the rise will be greater as the virus has a greater presence than when we started the lockdown and it seems we are a long way from having enough of the population immune to curtail its spread? 


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Not thick at all , and that's the trouble, no one has a clue who has or hadn't had the virus -  its a big gamble no matter what restrictions are released first .


Rush everyone back and we could be in trouble  , like Brian I think it would be a wise move to see how other countries manage the release 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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Gooner
14 April 2020 18:38:33

Just to frustrate me my mate flew back in on Sunday from Thailand , walked straight in , through customs , no discussion .


Plane was 75% full so WTF is that all about 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
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Gandalf The White
14 April 2020 18:41:42


 


Not thick at all , and that's the trouble, no one has a clue who has or hadn't had the virus -  its a big gamble no matter what restrictions are released first .


Rush everyone back and we could be in trouble  , like Brian I think it would be a wise move to see how other countries manage the release 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


It will return as soon as there's any attempt to ease the restrictions. My guess is that they'll be eased very very slowly.  Just look at Hokkaido - restrictions eased and within a week or two there's a new outbreak and the restrictions are reimposed.


There is no simple route out of this.


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Gandalf The White
14 April 2020 18:44:33


Just to frustrate me my mate flew back in on Sunday from Thailand , walked straight in , through customs , no discussion .


Plane was 75% full so WTF is that all about 


Originally Posted by: Gooner 


Was he not tested prior to boarding?


Location: South Cambridgeshire
130 metres ASL
52.0N 0.1E


Gooner
14 April 2020 18:45:01


 


It will return as soon as there's any attempt to ease the restrictions. My guess is that they'll be eased very very slowly.  Just look at Hokkaido - restrictions eased and within a week or two there's a new outbreak and the restrictions are reimposed.


There is no simple route out of this.


Originally Posted by: Gandalf The White 


I was reading about Hokkaido this morning , horrendous .


I agree , this has to be a very very slow release 


Remember anything after T120 is really Just For Fun



Marcus
Banbury
North Oxfordshire
378 feet A S L


Gandalf The White
14 April 2020 18:47:04
Just to underline the way viruses are endemic, the U.K. has been declared to no longer be free of Measles - courtesy of the stupidity of social media fraudsters claiming MMR is dangerous.
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