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Caz
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16 April 2020 07:37:54


So ......  in  effect they reckon by June  it's a case of "nothing to see here, move along" - sorry that's absolute bollox !!!  Do that and by  Aug the NHS will be totally bricked making the  current daily death tolls look like nothing !


What, precisely,  will have changed by June ??? Just what planet are these idiots on ?


Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

All the Nightingale hospitals will be open by then!  As the current lockdown measures are to protect the NHS, they’ll probably let it rip once hospitals have the capacity to cope! 

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Retron
16 April 2020 07:39:40


Darren perhaps all classroom teachers should be supplied with two-metre sticks? 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Hmm, I've a supply of two-metre network leads... maybe we could issue one to each teacher.


I do know that just before the lockdown the school stopped the teachers' briefings etc in an attempt to reduce contact, but with our narrow corridors... 1950s buildings weren't designed to handle the number of pupils we have nowadays!

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Caz
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16 April 2020 07:47:31


 2 of our local pubs are doing take away - one is also offering a local delivery service  and restricting  self collection to  appointment only.


I agree that large City based  non-delivery take away shouldn't be allowed.  It's not a necessary service and creates a considerable risk.  Aside from the queues, it will  fire up local Public Transport !


 

Originally Posted by: Bugglesgate 

Our local pubs are also doing take away meals, with collection by appointment and are doing reasonably well by all accounts!

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Northern Sky
16 April 2020 07:48:00


 


Hmm, I've a supply of two-metre network leads... maybe we could issue one to each teacher.


I do know that just before the lockdown the school stopped the teachers' briefings etc in an attempt to reduce contact, but with our narrow corridors... 1950s buildings weren't designed to handle the number of pupils we have nowadays!


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I know at my school the idea of social distancing is laughable. There's certainly going to be 'some trouble at 'mill'.

doctormog
16 April 2020 07:49:18


 


Seems odd to me too! They and some others seem to be assuming there will not be a second wave if restrictions are lifted. I don't understand it at all. Perhaps they think the transmission of the virus will be massively slowed by the summer weather or the Oxford study which suggested close to 50% may have already been infected was correct.


I also get the impression they are putting out feelers for the government because it is struggling to scale up testing and contact tracing sufficiently. Until recently those two elements were considered essential components of an exit strategy. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That Oxford study modelled a range of somewhere between 0.71 and 56% and also admitted a lot of testing would be needed to get a true value. 

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Justin W
16 April 2020 07:57:12


 


I think mass gatherings will be way down the line when it comes to lifting restrictions. Not one country has mentioned lifting them anytime soon and Merkel made the point yesterday saying they would not be allowed until the end of august. 


Originally Posted by: speckledjim 


I think it is unlikely that mass gatherings will be allowed until spring 2021 at the earliest

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Gandalf The White
16 April 2020 07:57:43


IDS and Gerard Lyons are calling for a traffic light system to reopen the economy in stages. Each last 3 weeks. Pubs and large events would resume in June. They say we can't afford to wait for testing and contact tracing to be scaled up. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


That seems significantly out of line with the epidemiology of SARS-Cov2 and absurdly unrealistic. Most advice is that large events are high risk and should be the last thing to be reintroduced.


I’m aware that they’re pushing the economics ahead of health and I think they’re wrong.

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llamedos
16 April 2020 07:58:16


 


Darren perhaps all classroom teachers should be supplied with two-metre sticks? 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 

Or maybe one of these.......


ruler


 


When I was at school that used to be the teachers' choice of weapon. Many knuckles were bruised in my "happy" days there  

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springsunshine
16 April 2020 07:59:11


All the Nightingale hospitals will be open by then!  As the current lockdown measures are to protect the NHS, they’ll probably let it rip once hospitals have the capacity to cope! 


Originally Posted by: Caz 


Agree with that Caz,although iam not sure about them just letting it rip.I think most of the economy will be open by end of may except the hospitality sector,tourism and sport with spectators will be off limits for quite some time yet.


I also think that opening schools before June will be a massive mistake.

The Beast from the East
16 April 2020 07:59:40

US deaths already up to 31,000


Dr Fauci claimed last week there would only be 60,000 by the end, seems a tad optimistic as we are only one month into the crisis!


I've lost all respect for Fauci after his grovelling apology on Monday when Trump threatened to sack him.


It was like a scene out of Game of Thrones, when Joffrey forces one of his courtiers to drink a barrel of wine in front of a baying crowd


 

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Brian Gaze
16 April 2020 08:02:15


US deaths already up to 31,000


Originally Posted by: The Beast from the East 


Trump is planning to accelerate the reopening of the economy. The US could well be the country that puts the "herd immunity" theory to the test. I think the population there will be prepared to accept more deaths than we in west Europe are. 

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The Beast from the East
16 April 2020 08:02:58


 


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/lockdown-staged-exit-and-changed-behaviour-will-be-crucial-for-recovery-jfhs2tvh0


"The only argument in favour of using age in the unlocking is focused on nurseries, schools and universities. Most advisers don’t believe that schools spread the virus, however, they do play an important part in unlocking the economy as people with children will be freer to return to work. This would need to be gradual."


 


Originally Posted by: Retron 


I thought children were asymptomatic superspreaders, like the bats? Most dont get symptoms but still carry the virus


 

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The Beast from the East
16 April 2020 08:04:25


 


Trump is planning to accelerate the reopening of the economy. The US could well be the country that puts the "heard immunity" theory to the test. I think the population there will be prepared to accept more deaths than we in west Europe are. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


Agreed. And most of the dead are poor blacks anyway.


 

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Justin W
16 April 2020 08:06:30


 


Is there no limit to their idiocy? 


Originally Posted by: xioni2 


Has anybody asked the ocean-going cretin Duncan Smith what he thinks an acceptable death toll would be?

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roadrunnerajn
16 April 2020 08:08:28


 


I don’t think government ministers have considered that teachers deserve every right to have the same level of protection as other key workers on the front line


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

I don’t think government ministers have considered many things since the beginning of this.

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Gavin D
16 April 2020 08:11:13
The Government are expected to announce today that they have extended the lockdown by a further 3-weeks.
xioni2
16 April 2020 08:11:45


 That Oxford study modelled a range of somewhere between 0.71 and 56% and also admitted a lot of testing would be needed to get a true value. 


Originally Posted by: doctormog 


Thanks for this, it's amazing how much it has been mis-reported and misused.


 

Northern Sky
16 April 2020 08:11:45


 


Trump is planning to accelerate the reopening of the economy. The US could well be the country that puts the "heard immunity" theory to the test. I think the population there will be prepared to accept more deaths than we in west Europe are. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/michigan-residents-armed-with-rifles-and-handguns-defy-stay-at-home-order/ar-BB12HeNs?ocid=spartanntp


As long as they can carry a gun they'll be fine.

Gandalf The White
16 April 2020 08:12:02


 


Trump is planning to accelerate the reopening of the economy. The US could well be the country that puts the "heard immunity" theory to the test. I think the population there will be prepared to accept more deaths than we in west Europe are. 


Originally Posted by: Brian Gaze 


The main thing in Trump’s mind is not having to send out ‘change of address’ cards early in 2021.  He sees the economy back to some sort of normality as the key but has his eyes shut to the risk of further major outbreaks. But he’ll still be blaming someone else if he gets it wrong. 

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Gandalf The White
16 April 2020 08:13:05


 


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/michigan-residents-armed-with-rifles-and-handguns-defy-stay-at-home-order/ar-BB12HeNs?ocid=spartanntp


As long as they can carry a gun they'll be fine.


Originally Posted by: Northern Sky 


Is that what’s called a ‘bullet point’?


😉

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speckledjim
16 April 2020 08:13:10


 


I think it is unlikely that mass gatherings will be allowed until spring 2021 at the earliest


Originally Posted by: Justin W 


My ‘guess’ is September this year - who knows ???

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POD
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16 April 2020 08:19:28

Has anyone modelled how many extra deaths there might have been if a lockdown(s) had not been in place?

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Gavin D
16 April 2020 08:20:02
Coffee shops, estate agents and restaurants could be among the first to reopen in the UK as they're deemed the greatest boost to the economy with screens in place or tables at least 6ft apart.
Caz
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16 April 2020 08:21:03

How quickly we change our minds!  At the beginning, three weeks ago. we didn’t want schools to close and now we don’t want them to re-open!   Perhaps this is due to it being an ongoing and evolving situation, which is probably why HMG are reluctant to set out too many plans!  

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doctormog
16 April 2020 08:21:46


Has anyone modelled how many extra deaths there might have been if a lockdown(s) had not been in place?


Originally Posted by: POD 


I have a horrible feeling that there may be a few countries in the world that will show what happens when a lockdown is not imposed or not logistically possible.

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