Yes, that is probably true, but we don't have the security infrastructure to enforce such a lockdown, nor the social care structure to get vital supplies to people who need it. In China, they delivered food rations to your home and flew drones on the streets to catch anyone leaving their home. South Korea had a sophisticated test and trace infrastructure in place very early on, a plan they had put in place after SARS in 2003. The plan worked.

We had the Cygnus report in 2016 making recommendations to deal with a pandemic. Our Govt just ignored it

 

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Do you know what ………….totally agree , debt or thousands more dead ?????? erm ?

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Either people have let their guards down due to the bank holiday or due to Thursday's papers but I cannot believe what I'm seeing down my road at the moment. 

People out mingling between households less than one meter apart, kids out all day etc. I've honestly never seen it  this busy in 15 years, let alone during 'mockdown'. 

I fear the chickens will well and truly come home to roost in three weeks time🙁. 

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Hopefully his body is fighting it off. Are they giving him any other drugs or plasma treatment? I don't know if Remdesivir is allowed in our hospitals, but I would take it if offered

Shows how contagious this virus is, if he can still catch it without leaving the house. Perhaps it was on the food packaging. If he was outside mowing the lawn, did he get close to passers by?

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Yes, John. I fear you are correct. There will be be a second spike in a fortnight to three weeks. All totally avoidable and catastrophic both for society and 'the economy'.

This is English exceptionalism at its most tragic.

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Both my side neighbours and the back neighbours are doing VE stuff in their gardens with strangers I haven't seen before. I was in ASDA earlier and it was packed out, they were letting in far too many people and there was no social distancing and most people were ignoring the one way system. There was a  fat chav couple coughing everywhere and as much as I tried to avoid them, they kept appearing in my vicinity!

The lockdown has broken thanks to the govt briefing the press

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Same here. We had a street party which I attended for about 90 mins. I didn't want an alcoholic drink because I'm doing a Zoom beer festival tomorrow evening. Thank God. Most people were drinking and it was all very jovial as is always the case. In fact to the extent that it seemed completely normal days had returned or never departed. Kids were running around and adults were congregating in groups as the alcohol started taking effect.

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UK data

• Number of tests - 97,029


• People tested - 67,443


• Positive - 4,649


• All settings deaths - 626

The confirmed rate for positive tests has fallen to 6.89%

Not sure on the treatment I have asked Mum 

Just had a conversation with her about the food deliveries my Uncle and Aunt were getting , they were washing all packaging BUT the carrier bags they folded up and put away …………….My money is firmly on that now 

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That's how it starts....

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I said weeks and weeks ago , human nature , people get bored and lose focus . Boris wasn't strong enough I'm afraid 

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Then fine ASDA  £1,000,000 , greed and negligence , Sainsburys in Banbury have had it spot on throughout , so much room in the store its a joy to shop , should keep it that way

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I’d estimate there’s been about 30k new cases this week (and the week before and the week before etc).

Even though the percentage of positive tests are down that’s still a football stadium worth of new people each week with the virus, capable of spreading it around. 

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Yes, our Sainsbury’s has been fantastic too. I went last week about 8.15pm and had the place to myself (don’t think many realise the opening hours are back to normal). 

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One of the attendees is a matron at Stoke Mandeville.   Also we had a hospitalisation a couple of weeks ago (lose track of time but I think that's about right) and although the person was quickly discharged it should have been an eye opener.

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https://www.endcoronavirus.org/countries

 

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These silly VE Day 'celebrations' are the death knell of 'lockdown'.

Cretins having street parties as an excuse to get p*ssed with other people again.

I fully expect to see a spike in cases, hospitalisations and deaths in 2-3 weeks.

I just hope there isn't a scaling back of the relaxation of restrictions that help the economy.

Saving lives should be the priority, followed by keeping as many parts of the economy functioning as possible. 

People having a p*ss-up that trivialises a catastrophic world war should be way, way down the pecking order. 

Sadly, our nationalist right-wing media have fanned the nationalist flames for such celebrations (encouraging neighbourly get-togethers and printing stupid posters), and our nationalist, right-wing government seems happy to sit back and reap the nationalist harvest Regardless of the consequences.

 

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Regional data for new cases today in England

The 7 English regions 

• London +124 (0.5%) 25,623


• Midlands +302 (1.4%) 22,045


• North West +263 (1.2% )21,863


• North East and Yorkshire +381 (1.8%) 20,774


• South East +236 (1.2%) 18,932


• East of England +224 (1.9%) 11,856


• South West +82 (1.2%) 6,907

The 10 local areas with the highest cases

1. Kent +82 (2.0%) 4,050


2. Lancashire +38 (1.2%) 3,093


3. Birmingham +49 (1.6%) 3,060


4. Hampshire +10 (0.3%) 2,979


5. Essex +35 (1.2%) 2,813


6. Surrey +27 (1.0%) 2,720


7. Hertfordshire +21 (0.8%) 2,488


8. Sheffield +21 (0.9%) 2,327


9. Cumbria +15 (0.7%) 2,062


10. Staffordshire +32 (1.7%) 1,934

The 10 local areas with the lowest cases

1. Rutland 24 - No change


2. North East Lincolnshire 138 - No change


3. Isle of Wight +3 (2.0%) 152


4. Torbay 209 - No change


5. Bath and North East Somerset 220 - No change


6. Bracknell Forest +2 (0.9%) 228


7. Hartlepool +4 (1.7%) 230


8. Windsor and Maidenhead +2 (0.7%) 270


9. Calderdale +8 (3.0%) 270


10. North Somerset +11 (3.8%) 287

Cannot help but feel that the Kent figures are skewed because of those arriving on a fairly frequent basis from the migrant camps near Calais. It is well known that those camps are centres of contagion and every migrant picked up by the border force is tested as a matter of routine.

 

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That would be a spectacularly unlucky transmission IMO. 

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. We have had a rather heated discussion about this tonight. Hubby is HE road inspector, and as such, he is continuing on salary, albeit working from home. (This is driving me crazy incidentally, have decided that he needn’t consider retiring 😂).  I am 61, diabetic and have heart disease ( misspent youth, but I had fun).  I have been at home since the week before the official lockdown started, and I am beginning to struggle. He is quite happy, as he is out at work 2/3 times a week, but I’m not.  I said that if a vaccine is not able to be developed, then what do I do? I said I would go out as the quality of life in a permanent semi lockdown situation would be untenable and I would rather have a shorter life and enjoy it. This ended in a row so I am just pinning my hopes on a vaccination being successful. Family is spread out, 2 in UK and one in Germany so getting all of us together is a rarity but am so missing the grandkids. When we do see them, can I hug them? Who knows. 

On the other hand, no 1 son is self employed and struggling financially, so I see the need to go back to “normal”, no 2 sons partner travels extensively in Europe and the US, he doesn’t even know what is going to to happen with his job, at least they are financially secure for a while. No 3 son is in Germany, well paid but furloughed, but again, doesn’t know how his job will go as he works for Mercedes. He rents his flat, as do most Germans, but he has nothing to come back to here. 

So, do we carry on a lockdown of sorts, let rip, or what? If it stays the same, there will be huge financial hardship, if we let it all go, there will be a huge amount of deaths. Where do we actually go from here?

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As it notes:

"...having economic interruptions which last for several weeks is a historically validated response strategy that is as old as history. A short, hard lockdown saves both the economy and the health of the population. If the lockdown is not doing the job very well, and new cases will not slow down, the strategy would be to strengthen the lockdown, rather than lift it.

The price a country pays for reopening too early can be incredibly high. Massive amounts of deaths, a collapsed healthcare system, and having multiple lockdowns would cause massive amounts of damage, and must be avoided."

 

At least it looks as if the easing will be very gradual but like others I fear another tightening up in a few weeks' time, if only because we haven't got the R number down far enough below 1, so there's precious little room for manoeuvre.

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Oh incredibly , its either that or mowing the lawn and someone had a brief natter ? 

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Coronavirus 'largely gone out' of UK population outside hospitals and care homes, professor claims https://t.co/StSdk2jMtP

— SkyNews (@SkyNews) May 8, 2020

So scary mate 😞 , you can only be so careful without going OTT and totally crackers! Hopefully that kind of transmission is rare. Best wishes to him. :) 

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