The prized arsehole Fraser Nelson said this on Marr. I suppose the polling backs him up and of course we see the comments on this forum constantly defending HMG and trying to blame the media

You have misunderstood. The government has only been following 'The Science' which it turns out was flawed, and the people who have been dying are mainly old people who don't count because they would have died anyway, not to mention the fact that their death certificates have been purposely incorrectly filled out as part of a hard-left conspiratorial plot to bring down capitalism. The government have navigated this crisis brilliantly and cannot be faulted.

The four most dangerous words in the English language

Facebook is a cancer of fake news and idiocy and should be shut down. We need to treat social media as a public health issue, like smoking or not wearing seat belts

All these leaks and briefings are coming from your beloved Tory Govt! Its not the system, its the way this vile bunch of shysters chooses to operate

Agreed. Its literally a green light to do whatever you like. Of course, most things are still closed, but the shops that do open will be packed and household mixing will increase

Stats bloke on Marr very impressive. He outlined the risks according to age - for young people the risk from Covid is staggeringly small. In contrast for the other end of the population age group the risk is very high. I suppose we already know that but the idea that the virus is a threat to everyone is simply not true for the young. 

This is basically the Culture wars we have imported from America, and all tied into Brexit.

Both countries are so bitterly divided almost 50/50, which is why the polling is so stable. Its the footballification of politics. You back your "team" or "tribe" no matter what.

Even if your Centre forward bites an ear off an opponent, you will back him to the bitter end (remember Luis Suarez, and all those Liverpool fans defending him!)

Trump and Boris supporters are Cult like in their loyalty and so much is invested in believing the Brexit and immigration lies, that its easier just to go along with it, rather than think for yourself, because that would mean admitting you have been conned

I think the most likely answer lies within the report itself: "91% of the excess mortality registered at the average national level in March 2020 is concentrated in the areas of high spread of the epidemic".

Preliminary analysis of our excess mortality reveals a similar picture, it's much higher in areas with high number of infections and high numbers of hospital deaths. This implies that it's unlikely to be excess mortality related to the lockdown (heart attacks etc.) and more likely to be related to CV19.

At least you are consistent in always ignoring the key points of my posts to simply react with your usual nonsense knee jerk unfounded and baseless nonsense. In all this mess at least certain things can be relied on. 

You keep posting this as if it’s new news. 
I also don’t think you get the point - unless you completely segregate the age groups, the younger population will spread the virus to the older population. 

As ever, it seems the elderly or the sick do not matter. 

STAY ALERT - a typical journalist's slogan from Boris, trying to be cheerful rather than practical?

"Honest, officer, I'm really alert; i've just driven up to the Lake District from London and I must have been alert because I didn't crash into anything"

"Yes, officer, I know we're having a massive BBQ party, but I know I'm alert because no-one's spilled my drink yet"

STAY APART would be much more testable, enforceable and might actually affect the continuation of the epidemic.

Start drafting the press releases for when the rest of Europe has cleared its epidemic and refuses to accept travel from Britain because we are still an infected nation.

I expect you to practice what you post and get your school re-opened from tomorrow.

Yes of course, but the virus uses the young as hosts to spread itself and kill the old. If you can prevent young people from coming into contact with older people, then that's fine, but almost impossible in practical terms

I know it's not your argument, but it's such a weak argument for 2 reasons:

• lived density is more relevant (cities in the Med have a much higher lived density than our cities)


• there are many examples of countries with much higher population density that have done much better than us (South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc.)

We don't them! Brexit will open up the rest of the world! Long distance air travel will save us! 

I checked quite a few of them and they are factually correct. It is a very damning account and probably how history will eventually record what happened in this tragic period for our country. I don't think many people realise how our situation is reported in other countries (even in Australia and New Zealand), it is portrayed as a shambles, caused by poor leadership and there is a lot of emphasis on the UK missing the ~2 week advantage/warning from Italy.

Easterlies are too warm this time of year, we need a sustained northerly! Perhaps this week's frost will close the Garden Centres anyway!

The BBC is trialling a new bullsh1t filter.

I cannot imagine why anyone thought this slogan was a good idea. It conveys no useful advice and just confuses everyone

The word "alert" is inappropriate and is more akin to public information files rom WW2 about spies and careless talk

Grim reading in the ST this morning. It feels like the nuke has detonated and the fallout is beginning to arrive. Optimism on a quick and effective vaccine being discovered appears to be plunging. The cavalry probably isn't on the way before the end of 2021, if at all. Difficult to see a way out of this TBH. The death toll in the UK may still exceed several hundred thousand IMO. 

I think that’s a tad unfair - I think it it is good to maintain perspective about the characteristics of the virus as this can easily get lost in all the chaos. On that basis I welcome NS’s post.

If measures are relaxed, it’s not because this is over!  It’s because there’s space for you in ICU!