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Quantum
24 June 2020 13:18:59


This could give the coldest daytime maxima ever recorded in July for Scotland.


 

2023/2024 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):
29/11 (-6), 30/11 (-6), 02/12 (-5), 03/12 (-5), 04/12 (-3), 16/01 (-3), 18/01 (-8), 08/02 (-5)

Total: 8 days with snow/sleet falling.

2022/2023 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

18/12 (-1), 06/03 (-6), 08/03 (-8), 09/03 (-6), 10/03 (-8), 11/03 (-5), 14/03 (-6)

Total: 7 days with snow/sleet falling.

2021/2022 Snow days (approx 850hpa temp):

26/11 (-5), 27/11 (-7), 28/11 (-6), 02/12 (-6), 06/01 (-5), 07/01 (-6), 06/02 (-5), 19/02 (-5), 24/02 (-7), 30/03 (-7), 31/03 (-8), 01/04 (-8)
Total: 12 days with snow/sleet falling.
moomin75
24 June 2020 13:30:33



This could give the coldest daytime maxima ever recorded in July for Scotland.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 

Absolutely. Ordinary summer chart that isn't.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
TimS
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24 June 2020 13:45:21
It’ll be a fairly chilly day up there. Nowhere near a record.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
Weathermac
24 June 2020 13:52:34



This could give the coldest daytime maxima ever recorded in July for Scotland.


 


Originally Posted by: Quantum 


Or a slight shift in position and all that hot air will flood west.

Rob K
24 June 2020 13:53:32

It’ll be a fairly chilly day up there. Nowhere near a record.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


TWO charts have maxima of 7C over the highlands and 11-13C around the coasts. Doesn't seem record-breaking to me, but not very good for July!

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
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mulattokid
24 June 2020 13:57:58


People moan about this forum being too Southern England/London centric.


May I tentatively suggest that it has become too Moomin centric.


Moomin this, Moomin that. Moomin’s summer forecast, Moomin’s predictions, whether or not Moomin was right all along, whether or not Moomin will be wrong. 


We are absolutely OBSESSED with Moomin. The Moomin Output Discussion thread. 


It’s all good entertainment though isn’t it. More predictable than the models at least. 




And now I’ve just made it worse. 😂😂😂😀😀😀


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Their should be a sign saying 'do not feed'  Sorry.


 

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Rob K
24 June 2020 14:01:12


 


I will never forget 1995. The year the landscape went to dust.


By mid August it looked like we were living in Southern Spain.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


It looked that way around here by the end of May this year! Even the 37mm of rain we have had this month only greened things up temporarily and much of the grass is going strawlike again. The local mountain-bike trails were back to dustbowls when I went out last night. Frankly whatever happens in July and August I already feel like we've had a long summer here - it started in late March and has continued more or less undisturbed ever since! I think I've already had more alfresco lunches and dinners than I normally manage in a year (helped of course by working from home)


 


Looking at the tabular GFS output for here, this coming Friday, Saturday and Sunday look likely to be wet but with most of the rain in the early morning. After that there's not really a strong rain signal apart from the period of July 2-4.


https://www.meteociel.fr/modeles/gefs_table.php?x=283&y=153&run=6&ext=fr&mode=3&sort=0


 

Yateley, NE Hampshire, 73m asl
"But who wants to be foretold the weather? It is bad enough when it comes, without our having the misery of knowing about it beforehand." — Jerome K. Jerome
mulattokid
24 June 2020 14:01:33


 


I will never forget 1995. The year the landscape went to dust.


By mid August it looked like we were living in Southern Spain.


Originally Posted by: Gusty 


 


Yep.  I flew back from LA then.  It looked markedly drier here than it did there.

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Darren S
24 June 2020 14:08:51


People moan about this forum being too Southern England/London centric.


May I tentatively suggest that it has become too Moomin centric.


Moomin this, Moomin that. Moomin’s summer forecast, Moomin’s predictions, whether or not Moomin was right all along, whether or not Moomin will be wrong. 


We are absolutely OBSESSED with Moomin. The Moomin Output Discussion thread. 


Originally Posted by: Joe Bloggs 


Here's the June CET predictions. 


Darren
Crowthorne, Berks (87m asl)
South Berks Winter Snow Depth Totals:
2023/24 0 cm; 2022/23 7 cm; 2021/22 1 cm; 2020/21 13 cm; 2019/20 0 cm; 2018/19 14 cm; 2017/18 23 cm; 2016/17 0 cm; 2015/16 0.5 cm; 2014/15 3.5 cm; 2013/14 0 cm; 2012/13 22 cm; 2011/12 7 cm; 2010/11 6 cm; 2009/10 51 cm
Sevendust
24 June 2020 14:18:33


 


Here's the June CET predictions. 



Originally Posted by: Darren S 

moomin75
24 June 2020 14:34:50
I have said several times I was wrong in terms of temperatures. Happy to accept that and the necessary ridicule that deservedly follows.
However, for many areas, it's been a wet June and after today and tomorrow's brief hot spell, many more will become wet and I think there will be some headline making weather on Friday.
Thereafter, the models are ALL pretty changeable. I went for a cool June, I will plump for an average July temperature wise.
Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
SJV
24 June 2020 15:08:34

I have said several times I was wrong in terms of temperatures. Happy to accept that and the necessary ridicule that deservedly follows.
However, for many areas, it's been a wet June and after today and tomorrow's brief hot spell, many more will become wet and I think there will be some headline making weather on Friday.
Thereafter, the models are ALL pretty changeable. I went for a cool June, I will plump for an average July temperature wise.

Originally Posted by: moomin75 


It has been wet in fits and starts from downpours and thunderstorms mainly. Very different to a low pressure dominated months with lots of frontal activity and suppressed temperatures. There have also been massive variations in rainfall locally due to the aforementioned convective activity. Many are still around or even below average.


You may be closer to the mark regarding your July thoughts. At the moment there are no clear signals either way, so it'll be a tricky call and I applaud anyone who is brave enough to forecast the month ahead.


 

Col
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24 June 2020 15:12:08



Originally Posted by: Sevendust 


Never mind rolling on the floor laughing. At least he's prepared to nail his colours to the mast.


And I don't see your name on there.....

Col
Bolton, Lancashire
160m asl
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moomin75
24 June 2020 15:12:58


 


It has been wet in fits and starts from downpours and thunderstorms mainly. Very different to a low pressure dominated months with lots of frontal activity and suppressed temperatures. There have also been massive variations in rainfall locally due to the aforementioned convective activity. Many are still around or even below average.


You may be closer to the mark regarding your July thoughts. At the moment there are no clear signals either way, so it'll be a tricky call and I applaud anyone who is brave enough to forecast the month ahead.


 


Originally Posted by: SJV 

Definitely no forecast, but a strong hunch. I just don't like the background signals and the longer term models are quite poor too. In the best summers, the Azorea high comes into play by strongly ridging in. As I've said previously, it is trying to ridge in, but is being forced back each time, and so fleeting settled spells are possible, but interspersed with much more in the way of rain and cooler for all.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Sevendust
24 June 2020 16:18:32


Never mind rolling on the floor laughing. At least he's prepared to nail his colours to the mast.


And I don't see your name on there.....


Originally Posted by: Col 


Same every year mate but it keeps us entertained. You need to relax on his Ark 

moomin75
24 June 2020 16:26:13


 


Same every year mate but it keeps us entertained. You need to relax on his Ark 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

The Ark is being prepared for the end of this week and July 😂😂😘

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Sevendust
24 June 2020 16:42:12


The Ark is being prepared for the end of this week and July 😂😂😘


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


I don't think Col appreciates our annual banter  Torrential rain is fine if it's warm although apart from storms at the end of the week I'm not on board yet 

moomin75
24 June 2020 16:45:40


 


I don't think Col appreciates our annual banter  Torrential rain is fine if it's warm although apart from storms at the end of the week I'm not on board yet 


Originally Posted by: Sevendust 

I love the annual banter....I deserve most of what I get. I am trying to comment on models (really I am) and it does look changeable at best. I am not really (at this stage) writing off the whole summer. But probably the next couple of weeks. 

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Brian Gaze
24 June 2020 17:11:51

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Heavy Weather 2013
24 June 2020 17:57:23


Definitely no forecast, but a strong hunch. I just don't like the background signals and the longer term models are quite poor too. In the best summers, the Azorea high comes into play by strongly ridging in. As I've said previously, it is trying to ridge in, but is being forced back each time, and so fleeting settled spells are possible, but interspersed with much more in the way of rain and cooler for all.


Originally Posted by: moomin75 


Is that the same hunch you had for June 2020?

Mark
Beckton, E London
Less than 500m from the end of London City Airport runway.
moomin75
24 June 2020 18:52:57


 


Is that the same hunch you had for June 2020?


Originally Posted by: Heavy Weather 2013 

Yes.....😂

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Ally Pally Snowman
24 June 2020 18:56:06

Very strange looking charts at the moment especially for July. It will probably turn out average but unusual.

Bishop's Stortford 85m ASL.
TimS
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24 June 2020 19:00:47
Awful charts this evening. Somehow they feel wrong. Because? Because we’ve had too many disappointing summers in the last 2 decades during an era of global warming. It feels we are owed big time.

Imagine if we were in a period of year on year rapid global cooling, and we kept getting snowless winters. It would feel WRONG. That’s how this feels.
Brockley, South East London 30m asl
moomin75
24 June 2020 19:29:29

Awful charts this evening. Somehow they feel wrong. Because? Because we’ve had too many disappointing summers in the last 2 decades during an era of global warming. It feels we are owed big time.

Imagine if we were in a period of year on year rapid global cooling, and we kept getting snowless winters. It would feel WRONG. That’s how this feels.

Originally Posted by: TimS 


Sadly it's all trending in very much the wrong direction, and contrary to belief, I am not searching for this. I don't think it looks good for July, but as has been said, the charts are only semi-reliable after days 6-10 so we must just keep hoping for an upturn in fortunes.

Witney, Oxfordshire
100m ASL
Caz
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24 June 2020 19:44:48


Yes.....😂


Originally Posted by: moomin75 

  That’s good then Mooms!  Let’s hope your hunch is wrong again!  

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